New York City Python Users Group Meeting - Tuesday May 8th

2007-05-04 Thread John Clark
Greetings! The next New York City Python Users Group meeting is this Tuesday, May 8th, 6:30pm at at the Millennium Partners office at 666 Fifth Avenue (53rd St. and 5th Ave.) on the 8th Floor. We welcome all those in the NYC area who are interested in Python to attend. However, we need a list of

EasyExtend 2.0-alpha1 released

2007-05-04 Thread Kay Schluehr
Hi folks, EasyExtend is a grammar based preprocessor generator and metaprogramming system for Python written in Python. After reworking an initial release for 11 months (!) it's time to present now EasyExtend 2.0-alpha1. You find EasyExtend on the projects homepage:

Turbogears 1.0.2.2 has been released!

2007-05-04 Thread Alberto Valverde
Hi all, I'm proud to announce that TurboGears has just been updated to 1.0.2.2! Main new features: * This release is the first one that supports Python 2.5. * Validators now support localized error messages. To upgrade your install: easy_install -U TurboGears The CHANGELOG: 1.0.2 (May 2,

bbfreeze0.93.0

2007-05-04 Thread Ralf Schmitt
Hi all, I've just uploaded bbfreeze 0.93.0 to python's cheeseshop. bbfreeze creates standalone executables from python scripts. It's similar in functionality to py2exe or cx_Freeze. It offers the following features: easy installation bbfreeze can be installed with setuptools' easy_install

ANN: ActivePython 2.5.1.1 is now available

2007-05-04 Thread Trent Mick
I'm happy to announce that ActivePython 2.5.1.1 is now available for download from: http://www.activestate.com/products/activepython/ This is a patch release that updates ActivePython to core Python 2.5.1. This release also fixes a couple problems with running pydoc from the command line on

IMDbPY 3.0 released

2007-05-04 Thread Davide Alberani
IMDbPY 3.0 is available (tgz, deb, rpm, exe) from: http://imdbpy.sourceforge.net/ IMDbPY is a Python package useful to retrieve and manage the data of the IMDb movie database about both movies and people. With this release the new design of the IMDb site is supported; moreover, the

Re: anyone has experience on cross-compile python 2.5.1?

2007-05-04 Thread Leo Jay
On 4/30/07, Leo Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have a development board based on s3c2410 arm cpu. and i want to port python on it. after googling some threads, i successfully cross compiled python. but i still encountered a weird issue that when i ran /lib/python2.5/test/testall.py, the

Re: hp 11.11 64 bit python 2.5 build gets error import site failed

2007-05-04 Thread bhochstetler
On May 4, 1:17 am, Leo Kislov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2:54 pm, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: import site failed OverflowError: signed integer is greater than the maximum. - what is the value of ival? ival: 4294967295 I see. This is 0x, which would

Re: Why stay with lisp when there are python and perl?

2007-05-04 Thread David Formosa (aka ? the Platypus)
Nameless wrote: Why should I keep on learning lisp when there are python and perl? The more programing languages you know the better programer you will be. Lisp can teach you a number of key things that are required to be a good programmer in any of the P* lanuages. --

Re: Why are functions atomic?

2007-05-04 Thread Chris Mellon
On 3 May 2007 23:36:11 -0700, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 2, 6:08 am, Carsten Haese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 22:21 -0700, Michael wrote: Is there a reason for using the closure here? Using function defaults seems to give better performance:[...] It

using pyparsing to extract METEO DATAS

2007-05-04 Thread napolpie
DISCUSSION IN USER nappie writes: Hello, I'm Peter and I'm new in python codying and I'm using parsying to extract data from one meteo Arpege file. This file is long file and it's composed by word and number arguments like this: GRILLE EURAT5 Coin Nord-Ouest : 46.50/ 0.50 Coin Sud-E Hello, I'm

RE: Strange terminal behavior after quitting Tkinter application

2007-05-04 Thread Hamilton, William
-Original Message- From: Chris Subject: Re: Strange terminal behavior after quitting Tkinter application Clicking 'Quit' or on the window's 'x' causes the application to quit without messing up the terminal. With root.mainloop() commented out, though, no combination of root.quit(),

Re: How to find the present working directory using python.

2007-05-04 Thread Isaac Rodriguez
how to find out the present working directory using python. Try this: import os os.getcwd() It returns the current working directory. Thanks, - Isaac. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Plot with scipy

2007-05-04 Thread redcic
Hi all, I've just downloaded scipy v 0.5.2 and I would like to be able to draw plots. I've tried: import scipy.gplt import scipy.plt import scipy.xplt and none of them work. Are these modules still included in scipy ? If not, where can I find them ? Thanks for your answers, Cédric --

Re: Non blocking sockets with select.poll() ?

2007-05-04 Thread Jean-Paul Calderone
On Fri, 4 May 2007 15:05:46 +0300, Maxim Veksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/4/07, Maxim Veksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/4/07, Jean-Paul Calderone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 4 May 2007 13:04:41 +0300, Maxim Veksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm trying to write a non

Re: default config has no md5 module?

2007-05-04 Thread Sebastian Bassi
On 5/4/07, Leo Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i want to compile a python by myself, but after configure and make, it seems that md5 is not built by default. what should i do to compile md5 as an module? md5 module was deprecated, now it functions are in hashlib. (see

Re: Real Time Battle and Python

2007-05-04 Thread hg
Matimus wrote: On May 3, 5:20 am, hg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have started to work on a python-based robot, and am interested in your feedback: http://realtimebattle.sourceforge.net/www.snakecard.com/rtb hg This is not necessarily a response to your effort, but just a note

Re: How do I get type methods?

2007-05-04 Thread yavannadil
On 4 май, 09:08, Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: En Fri, 04 May 2007 01:34:20 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribio: I'm not against 'dir(MyClass)'; the question is, what should I 'dir()' to get methods of 'pyuno' type instance? Usually instances don't have its own methods, they get

Re: base64 and unicode

2007-05-04 Thread Duncan Booth
EuGeNe Van den Bulke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Duncan Booth wrote: However, the decoded text looks as though it is utf16 encoded so it should be written as binary. i.e. the output mode should be wb. Thanks for the wb tip that works (see bellow). I guess it is experience based but how

Re: My Python annoyances

2007-05-04 Thread Ben Collver
Paul Boddie wrote: I'm sorry to hear about that. If by macho you mean people who insist that things are good enough as they are, and that newcomers should themselves adapt to whatever they may discover, instead of things being improved so that they are more intuitive and reliable for

RE: unittest dependencies

2007-05-04 Thread Urban, Gabor
Hullo! I have several questions about this problem. Do you have more test scripts using the unittest framework? My blind idea would be the following: run test b first, and go forward when no errors are found. To do this you could change the TestRunner component. The official documentation is

Re: Firefighters at the site of WTC7 Move away the building is going to blow up, get back the building is going to blow up.

2007-05-04 Thread default
On Fri, 04 May 2007 03:26:17 -0700, James Stroud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: default wrote: On 2 May 2007 20:10:20 -0700, Midex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES Trying to understand the World Trade Center events is like waking up to act fifteen of a long Greek Tragedy. It

Re: Replacement for HTMLGen?

2007-05-04 Thread Walter Dörwald
Joshua J. Kugler wrote: I realize that in today's MVC-everything world, the mere mention of generating HTML in the script is near heresy, but for now, it's what I ened to do. :) That said, can someone recommend a good replacement for HTMLGen? I've found good words about it

Re: My Python annoyances

2007-05-04 Thread Chris Mellon
On 5/4/07, Ben Collver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Boddie wrote: I'm sorry to hear about that. If by macho you mean people who insist that things are good enough as they are, and that newcomers should themselves adapt to whatever they may discover, instead of things being improved so

Re: My Python annoyances

2007-05-04 Thread Ben Collver
Terry Reedy wrote: Three days after you posted, 'gagenellina' explained that he thought your complaint was invalid. py -531560245 0x 3763407051L It's the same number (actually, the same bit pattern). ... A few weeks later, noticing that you had not challenged his explanation, I

Re: Organizing code - import question

2007-05-04 Thread Carlos Hanson
On 5/3/07, Brian Blais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carlos Hanson wrote: It looks like you need __init__.py in MyPackage. Then you can import starting with MyPackage. For example, you might use one of the following: import MyPackage from MyPackage.Common import * etc that

Re: My Python annoyances

2007-05-04 Thread Ben Collver
Thorsten Kampe wrote: He was using /Windows/ Python in Cygwin *chuckle*... Windows Python says Ctrl-Z because it doesn't know that it's been run from bash where Ctrl-Z is for job control. And the lesson we learn from that: if you're using Windows Python use a Windows shell. If you're

Re: tkinter listboxes

2007-05-04 Thread rahulnag22
On May 4, 1:55 am, Eric Brunel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 04 May 2007 05:26:56 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will give a simplified example of the problem at hand -- I have a case in which I have two listboxes - listbox1 and listbox2, if I click on an item in listbox1 the item

Re: BUSTED!!! 100% VIDEO EVIDENCE that WTC7 was controlled demolition!! NEW FOOTAGE!!! Ask yourself WHY havn't I seen this footage before?

2007-05-04 Thread MooseFET
On May 3, 4:08 pm, quasi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 04 May 2007 09:37:37 +1200, Gib Bogle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, so the firefighters were in on the conspiracy! No, but the firefighters are very much aware that there is more to 9/11 than has been officially revealed. This is

Re: Plot with scipy

2007-05-04 Thread Lou Pecora
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], redcic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've just downloaded scipy v 0.5.2 and I would like to be able to draw plots. I've tried: import scipy.gplt import scipy.plt import scipy.xplt and none of them work. Are these modules still included in scipy ? If

Re: Plot with scipy

2007-05-04 Thread redcic
I've already got this package. I just wanted to try something new. However, since you talk about it, I've got a question regarding this package. The execution of the code stops after the line: pylab.show() which is off course the last line of my code. My problem is that I have to close the figure

Re: Decorating class member functions

2007-05-04 Thread Andy Terrel
Thanks Peter and 7stud. That is the solution that really works for me. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: My Python annoyances

2007-05-04 Thread Ben Collver
Chris Mellon wrote: #python is one of the most accepting communities around. If the bug reports here and the way you've presented them in this thread (vs the way that they appear to an outside observer) are any indication, though, I'm not surprised that you might have left in a huff. Bear

How safe is a set of floats?

2007-05-04 Thread Thomas Nelson
I want to generate all the fractions between 1 and limit (with limit1) in an orderly fashion, without duplicates. def all_ratios(limit): s = set() hi = 1.0 lo = 1.0 while True: if hi/lo not in s: s.add(hi/lo) yield (hi,lo) hi += 1 if

Re: My Python annoyances

2007-05-04 Thread Ben Collver
Ben Collver wrote: Chris Mellon wrote: Code like this is working directly against Python philosophy. You probably got told this on #python, too. There's hardly any circumstance where you should need to validate the exact class of an object, and as long as they have the same interface theres

Re: My Python annoyances

2007-05-04 Thread Chris Mellon
On 5/4/07, Ben Collver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Collver wrote: Chris Mellon wrote: Code like this is working directly against Python philosophy. You probably got told this on #python, too. There's hardly any circumstance where you should need to validate the exact class of an

Re: My Python annoyances

2007-05-04 Thread Ant
On May 4, 3:17 pm, Ben Collver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Mellon wrote: ... Code like this is working directly against Python philosophy. You probably got told this on #python, too. There's hardly any circumstance where you should need to validate the exact class of an object, and as

Re: How do I get type methods?

2007-05-04 Thread Thomas Nelson
On May 4, 7:59 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 ÍÁÊ, 09:08, Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: En Fri, 04 May 2007 01:34:20 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribio: I'm not against 'dir(MyClass)'; the question is, what should I 'dir()' to get methods of 'pyuno' type instance?

Re: Tcl-tk 8.5?

2007-05-04 Thread Kevin Walzer
James Stroud wrote: Méta-MCI wrote: Any plan to integrate Tcl 8.5 in standard Python? Better would be to outegrate it and instead use another gui kit as the standard. This statement puzzles me, as you are something of a Tkinter expert (you have helped me with some Tk issues). What is

Re: My Python annoyances

2007-05-04 Thread Ben Collver
Chris Mellon wrote: You should check for the methods by calling them. If the object doesn't support the method in question, you will get a runtime exception. Premature inspection of an object is rarely useful and often outright harmful. That makes sense, thank you for the response. What

Re: My Python annoyances

2007-05-04 Thread Alex Martelli
Chris Mellon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am unqualified to comment on the Python philosophy, but I would like for my function to do some basic error checking on its arguments. By basic error checking I mean verify that the file argument actually is a file-like object. By same

Re: How safe is a set of floats?

2007-05-04 Thread Alex Martelli
Thomas Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to generate all the fractions between 1 and limit (with limit1) in an orderly fashion, without duplicates. def all_ratios(limit): s = set() hi = 1.0 lo = 1.0 while True: if hi/lo not in s: s.add(hi/lo)

Re: My Python annoyances

2007-05-04 Thread Alex Martelli
Ben Collver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Mellon wrote: You should check for the methods by calling them. If the object doesn't support the method in question, you will get a runtime exception. Premature inspection of an object is rarely useful and often outright harmful. That makes

Re: Strange terminal behavior after quitting Tkinter application

2007-05-04 Thread Chris
On May 4, 8:52 pm, Hamilton, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Chris Subject: Re: Strange terminal behavior after quittingTkinter application Clicking 'Quit' or on the window's 'x' causes the application to quit without messing up the terminal. With

Re: My Python annoyances

2007-05-04 Thread Ben Collver
Alex Martelli wrote: Type-switching in this way is a rather dubious practice in any language (it can't respect the open-closed principle). Can't you have those objects wrapped in suitable wrappers with a copyorwrite method that knows what to do? For example, StringIO.StringIO is a standard

Re: How do I get type methods?

2007-05-04 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Nelson wrote: On May 4, 7:59 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me retype my question: what I 'dir()' in case of 'pyuno' type instance? Or in case of 'dict' type instance? Or in case of any other new python type? class Foo: ... def f(self,x): ...

Re: Why stay with lisp when there are python and perl?

2007-05-04 Thread Rayiner Hashem
It is worth noting that eager, statically-typed languages like OCaml and F# are many times faster than the other languages at this task. This is precisely the forte of OCaml and F#, manipulating trees and graphs. To be fair, it is also worth noting that both the OCaml and F# implementations

Re: Lisp for the C21

2007-05-04 Thread Paul Rubin
Mark Tarver [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: See my remarks on the Lisp for the Twenty First Century http://www.lambdassociates.org/lC21.htm Anyone who didn't love lisp in the 20th century has no heart. Anyone who still loves it in the 21st, has no head. --

Re: How safe is a set of floats?

2007-05-04 Thread Paul McGuire
On May 4, 9:50 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: Thomas Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to generate all the fractions between 1 and limit (with limit1) in an orderly fashion, without duplicates. def all_ratios(limit): s = set() hi = 1.0 lo = 1.0

Re: curses mystical error output

2007-05-04 Thread Skip Montanaro
You might be trying to write to a section that is currently off screen. Bingo. I *thought* I was okay, but I wasn't refreshing until the end of the display loop, so I never saw all the addstr() calls that had succeeded but which had yet to be painted. Adding a refresh() call in the loop

Re: How safe is a set of floats?

2007-05-04 Thread Arnaud Delobelle
On May 4, 3:21 pm, Thomas Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to generate all the fractions between 1 and limit (with limit1) in an orderly fashion, without duplicates. def all_ratios(limit): s = set() hi = 1.0 lo = 1.0 while True: if hi/lo not in s:

ANN: ActivePython 2.5.1.1 is now available

2007-05-04 Thread Trent Mick
I'm happy to announce that ActivePython 2.5.1.1 is now available for download from: http://www.activestate.com/products/activepython/ This is a patch release that updates ActivePython to core Python 2.5.1. This release also fixes a couple problems with running pydoc from the command line on

Re: Why are functions atomic?

2007-05-04 Thread John Nagle
Michael wrote: On May 2, 6:08 am, Carsten Haese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 22:21 -0700, Michael wrote: I agree the performance gains are minimal. Using function defaults rather than closures, however, seemed much cleaner an more explicit to me. For example, I have been

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-04 Thread Kaz Kylheku
On May 2, 5:19 pm, sturlamolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2:15 am, Kaz Kylheku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kindly refrain from creating any more off-topic, cross-posted threads. Thanks. The only off-topic posting in this thread is your own (and now this one). You are making a very

Re: How safe is a set of floats?

2007-05-04 Thread Peter Otten
Paul McGuire wrote: Does set membership test for equality (==) or identity (is)? As Alex said, equality: a = 0.0 b = -0.0 a is b False a == b True set([a, b]) set([0.0]) Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: is there a module to work with pickled objects storage in database?

2007-05-04 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
krishnakant Mane a écrit : hello all, I am trying a very complex kind of a task in a project. I have a knowledge management system where I need to store a lot of objects (pickled). I have to store mostly lists and dictionaries into a rdbms. Which totally defeats the purpose of a rdbms. --

Re: New York City Python Users Group Meeting - Tuesday May 8th

2007-05-04 Thread ddimuc
Does that mean if I am not "in the NYC area", I am not welcomed? Not even if I frequently visit NYC (Manhattan)? If I were born and raised in NYC (not necessarily Manhattan), would I be granted the opportunity to attend? Hmm... DPD. John Clark wrote: Greetings! The next New

Re: How safe is a set of floats?

2007-05-04 Thread Arnaud Delobelle
On May 4, 5:04 pm, Paul McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does set membership test for equality (==) or identity (is)? I just did some simple class tests, and it looks like sets test for identity. Sets are like dictionaries, they test for equality: a=1,2 b=1,2 a is b False a in set([b])

Re: Newbie and Page Re-Loading

2007-05-04 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
mosscliffe a écrit : I am very new to this python world, but I do like the look of the language / syntax, though I have had some problems with indenting using a text editor. There's no shortage of smart code editor having a decent support for Python. I have managed to get my ISP to

Re: invoke user's standard mail client

2007-05-04 Thread Cameron Laird
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, the simplest way to launch the user's standard mail client from a Python program is by creating a mailto: URL and launching the webbrowser: def mailto_url(to=None,subject=None,body=None,cc=None): encodes the

Re: How safe is a set of floats?

2007-05-04 Thread Paul McGuire
On May 4, 11:50 am, Arnaud Delobelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 4, 5:04 pm, Paul McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does set membership test for equality (==) or identity (is)? I just did some simple class tests, and it looks like sets test for identity. Sets are like dictionaries,

Re: Decorating class member functions

2007-05-04 Thread Rhamphoryncus
On May 3, 10:34 pm, Peter Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is not that you are decorating a method but that you are trying to use a callable class instance as a method. For that to work the class has to implement the descriptor protocol, see

Re: adding methods at runtime and lambda

2007-05-04 Thread Mike
On May 3, 11:25 pm, Gabriel Genellina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: En Thu, 03 May 2007 16:52:55 -0300, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: I was messing around with adding methods to a class instance at runtime and saw the usual code one finds online for this. All the examples I saw say, of

Re: adding methods at runtime and lambda

2007-05-04 Thread Peter Otten
Mike wrote: staticmethod makes the function available to the whole class according to the docs. What if I only want it to be available on a particular instance? Say I'm adding abilities to a character in a game and I want to give a particular character the ability to 'NukeEverybody'. I don't

Re: Newbie and Page Re-Loading

2007-05-04 Thread mosscliffe
Bruno, Many thanks for your very helpful reply. I am trying WingIDE Personal as an editor, up to now it seems OK. My ISP is running Python 2.4.3 and does not know about mod_python. I do not want to run a framework yet. I would like to understand python at script level, before adding more

Re: How to check if a string is empty in python?

2007-05-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On May 4, 5:02 am, Jaswant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a simple way to do it i think s=hello if(len(s)==0): ... print Empty ... else: ... print s ... hello But you are still making the assumption that s is a string. (BTW, you need quotes around your example.) For

Re: How safe is a set of floats?

2007-05-04 Thread Peter Otten
Paul McGuire wrote: Just to beat this into the ground, test for equality appears to be implemented as test for equality of hashes. So if you want to implement a class for the purposes of set membership, you must implement a suitable __hash__ method. It is not sufficient to implement

RE: How to check if a string is empty in python?

2007-05-04 Thread Hamilton, William
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On May 4, 5:02 am, Jaswant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a simple way to do it i think s=hello if(len(s)==0): ... print Empty ... else: ... print s ... hello But you are still making the assumption that s

Re: My Python annoyances

2007-05-04 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Ben Collver (Fri, 04 May 2007 06:40:50 -0700) Thorsten Kampe wrote: He was using /Windows/ Python in Cygwin *chuckle*... Windows Python says Ctrl-Z because it doesn't know that it's been run from bash where Ctrl-Z is for job control. And the lesson we learn from that: if you're

Re: Cannot execute Windows commands via Python in 64-bit

2007-05-04 Thread minitotoro
On May 2, 4:15 pm, minitotoro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 2, 3:46 pm, Larry Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: minitotoro wrote: On May 2, 3:07 pm, Larry Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a script that runs fine in Windows 2003 (32-bit). It basically

how to find a lable quickly?

2007-05-04 Thread wang frank
Hi, I am a new user on Python and I really love it. I have a big text file with each line like: label 3 teststart 5 endtest 100 newrun 2345 I opened the file by uu=open('test.txt','r') and then read the data as xx=uu.readlines() In xx, it contains the list of each

Re: Where are the strings in gc.get_objects?

2007-05-04 Thread Edward K Ream
The following script dumps all objects allocated since the last time it was called. It suppresses the dump if more than 200 new objects were allocated. g.app.idDict is a dict whose keys are id(obj) and whose values are obj. (g.app.idDict will persist between invocations of the script). This

Re: Firefighters at the site of WTC7 Move away the building is going to blow up, get back the building is going to blow up.

2007-05-04 Thread James Stroud
default wrote: On Fri, 04 May 2007 03:26:17 -0700, James Stroud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: default wrote: On 2 May 2007 20:10:20 -0700, Midex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES Trying to understand the World Trade Center events is like waking up to act fifteen of a long

Re: how to find a lable quickly?

2007-05-04 Thread Josh Bloom
I haven't used it myself, but I'm pretty sure you're going to get a lot of pointers to http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/ Also you may want to start naming your variables something more descriptive. IE testResultsFile = open('test.txt','r') testLines=testResultsFile.readlines() for line in

Re: Why are functions atomic?

2007-05-04 Thread Michael
On May 4, 5:49 am, Chris Mellon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You aren't getting bit by any problem with closures - this is a syntax problem. I understand that it is not closures that are specifically biting me. However, I got bit, it was unplesant and I don't want to be bit again;-) Thus, whenever

Re: Why are functions atomic?

2007-05-04 Thread Michael
On May 4, 9:19 am, John Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... def g(): ... x = x + 1 Too cute. Don't nest functions in Python; the scoping model isn't really designed for it. How can you make generators then if you don't nest? Python probably isn't the right language

Re: Why are functions atomic?

2007-05-04 Thread Chris Mellon
On 4 May 2007 12:55:03 -0700, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 4, 5:49 am, Chris Mellon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You aren't getting bit by any problem with closures - this is a syntax problem. I understand that it is not closures that are specifically biting me. However, I got bit,

Re: how to find a lable quickly?

2007-05-04 Thread Larry Bates
wang frank wrote: Hi, I am a new user on Python and I really love it. I have a big text file with each line like: label 3 teststart 5 endtest 100 newrun 2345 I opened the file by uu=open('test.txt','r') and then read the data as xx=uu.readlines() In xx,

Re: How to check if a string is empty in python?

2007-05-04 Thread Larry Bates
Alex Martelli wrote: Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 02 May 2007 21:19:54 -0400, Roy Smith wrote: for c in s: raise it's not empty String exceptions are depreciated and shouldn't be used. http://docs.python.org/api/node16.html They're actually deprecated, not

Re: Why are functions atomic?

2007-05-04 Thread Chris Mellon
On 4 May 2007 12:59:39 -0700, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 4, 9:19 am, John Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... def g(): ... x = x + 1 Too cute. Don't nest functions in Python; the scoping model isn't really designed for it. How can you make generators

Re: Why are functions atomic?

2007-05-04 Thread Michael
On May 4, 4:13 am, Dustan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 4, 1:36 am, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... def g(x=x): ... x = x + 1 ... return x ... return g g = f(3) g() 4 g() 4 g() 4 g() # what is going on here 4 Okay, so it is a bad

Re: how to find a lable quickly?

2007-05-04 Thread Miki
Hello Frank, I am a new user on Python and I really love it. The more you know, the deeper the love :) I have a big text file with each line like: label 3 teststart 5 endtest 100 newrun 2345 I opened the file by uu=open('test.txt','r') and then read the data

Re: adding methods at runtime and lambda

2007-05-04 Thread Mike
On May 4, 2:05 pm, Peter Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike wrote: staticmethod makes the function available to the whole class according to the docs. What if I only want it to be available on a particular instance? Say I'm adding abilities to a character in a game and I want to give a

Re: how to find a lable quickly?

2007-05-04 Thread Duncan Booth
wang frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am a new user on Python and I really love it. I have a big text file with each line like: label 3 teststart 5 endtest 100 newrun 2345 I opened the file by uu=open('test.txt','r') and then read the data as

Re: Newbie and Page Re-Loading

2007-05-04 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
mosscliffe a écrit : Bruno, Many thanks for your very helpful reply. I am trying WingIDE Personal as an editor, up to now it seems OK. My ISP is running Python 2.4.3 and does not know about mod_python. Few ISPs want to deploy mod_python... I do not want to run a framework yet. I

Further adventures in array slicing.

2007-05-04 Thread Steven W. Orr
This is more for my education and not so much for practicality. I have a structure that sort of looks like this: mdict = {33:{'name': 'Hello0', 'fields':'fields0', 'valid': 'valid0' 55:{'name': 'Hello1', 'fields':'fields1', 'valid':

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-04 Thread Tony Nelson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kaz Kylheku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 2, 5:19 pm, sturlamolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2:15 am, Kaz Kylheku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kindly refrain from creating any more off-topic, cross-posted threads. Thanks. The only off-topic

Re: Newbie and Page Re-Loading

2007-05-04 Thread Miki
Hello Richard, I do not want to run a framework yet. I would like to understand python at script level, before adding more aspects to learn, like frameworks. The way CGI works is that your script is called every time the corresponding HTML is loaded. You can access all the parameters sent to

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-04 Thread Fuzzyman
On May 4, 5:27 pm, Kaz Kylheku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 2, 5:19 pm, sturlamolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2:15 am, Kaz Kylheku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kindly refrain from creating any more off-topic, cross-posted threads. Thanks. The only off-topic posting in this

Re: How do I get type methods?

2007-05-04 Thread Fuzzyman
On May 3, 8:33 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! If I do import uno localContext=uno.getComponentContext() dir(type(localContext)) Perhaps ? Fuzzyman http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ironpython/index.shtml then localContext is of type type 'pyuno' I guess it's a new type provided by

behavior difference for mutable and immutable variable in function definition

2007-05-04 Thread jianbing . chen
Hi, Can anyone explain the following: Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Apr 9 2007, 11:27:23) [GCC 4.1.1 20060525 (Red Hat 4.1.1-1)] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. def foo(): ... x = 2 ... foo() def bar(): ... x[2] = 2 ... bar() Traceback (most recent

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-04 Thread Steven Howe
Fuzzyman wrote: On May 4, 5:27 pm, Kaz Kylheku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 2, 5:19 pm, sturlamolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2:15 am, Kaz Kylheku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kindly refrain from creating any more off-topic, cross-posted threads. Thanks.

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-04 Thread Fuzzyman
On May 4, 10:39 pm, Steven Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fuzzyman wrote: [snip ...] You are childishly beckoning Usenet etiquette to be gone so that you may do whatever you wish. But I trust that you will not, out of spite for being rebuked, turn a few small mistakes into a persistent

Re: adding methods at runtime and lambda

2007-05-04 Thread Peter Otten
Mike wrote: I just realized in working with this more that the issues I was having with instancemethod and other things seems to be tied solely to What you describe below is a function that happens to be an attribute of an instance. There are also real instance methods that know about their

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-04 Thread Luis M . González
On May 4, 6:12 pm, Fuzzyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 4, 5:27 pm, Kaz Kylheku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 2, 5:19 pm, sturlamolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2:15 am, Kaz Kylheku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kindly refrain from creating any more off-topic, cross-posted

Re: Getting some element from sets.Set

2007-05-04 Thread John Machin
On May 4, 6:23 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 4, 11:34 am, Peter Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is not possible to index set objects. That is OK. But, what if I want to find some element from the Set. from sets import Set s =

Re: behavior difference for mutable and immutable variable in function definition

2007-05-04 Thread James Stroud
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can anyone explain the following: Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Apr 9 2007, 11:27:23) [GCC 4.1.1 20060525 (Red Hat 4.1.1-1)] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. def foo(): ... x = 2 ... foo() def bar(): ...

Re: behavior difference for mutable and immutable variable in function definition

2007-05-04 Thread Carsten Haese
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 14:30 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can anyone explain the following: Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Apr 9 2007, 11:27:23) [GCC 4.1.1 20060525 (Red Hat 4.1.1-1)] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. def foo(): ... x = 2 ...

Re: Microsoft's Dynamic Languages Runtime (DLR)

2007-05-04 Thread Paul Boddie
Luis M. González wrote: Indeed, the subject is absolutely on-topic. If can't talk about a so called Dynamic Languages Runtime in a pyhton mailing list, I wonder what it takes to be considered on-topic. Frankly, this on-topic/off-topic fascism I see in this list is pissing me off a little

Problems Drawing Over Network

2007-05-04 Thread Andrew
Hello Everyone I am receiving an error in an application I am working on. The application when its done will be a Dungeons and Dragons Network game. I am having problems with the Networked Canvas basically for drawing the dungeon maps If I initialize two of the Tkinter Canvas widgets with in

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