Pydev 1.4.2 Released

2009-01-14 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
Hi All, Pydev and Pydev Extensions 1.4.2 have been released Details on Pydev Extensions: http://www.fabioz.com/pydev Details on Pydev: http://pydev.sf.net Details on its development: http://pydev.blogspot.com Release Highlights in Pydev Extensions:

Re: [OT] Re: are there some special about '\x1a' symbol

2009-01-14 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:04:33 -0200, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu escribió: Gabriel Genellina wrote: En Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:00:16 -0200, John Machin sjmac...@lexicon.net escribió: I didn't think your question was stupid. Stupid was (a) CP/M recording file size as number of 128-byte

Re: Does Python really follow its philosophy of Readability counts?

2009-01-14 Thread Carl Banks
On Jan 14, 1:40 am, Steven D'Aprano ste...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au wrote: On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:17:08 -0800, Carl Banks wrote: On Jan 13, 9:50 pm, Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com wrote: The cultural impact that would have on the community is far worse, IMHO, than any

Re: pep 8 constants

2009-01-14 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:26:54 -0800, Brendan Miller wrote: I tend to use constants as a means of avoiding the proliferation of magic literals for maintenance reasons... Like say if your example of FOO would have been used in 10 places. Maybe it is more pythonic to simply denote such a thing as

Re: initialising a class by name

2009-01-14 Thread Krishnakant
Hi, So should I not use getattr()? If I have one class in one module, then should I use global? I found getattr() very easy to use, my only dowbt is that if there is going to be one class per module then will it be a good idea? some thing like module, class_name happy hacking. Krishnakantt. On

Re: initialising a class by name

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Rebert
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Krishnakant krm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, So should I not use getattr()? If I have one class in one module, then should I use global? I found getattr() very easy to use, my only dowbt is that if there is going to be one class per module then will it be a good

Re: initialising a class by name

2009-01-14 Thread Krishnakant
Hi steevan, I liked this idea of dispatchTable. is it possible to say some thing like inst = dispatchTable{ham} according to me, inst will become the instance of class ham. Another thing to note is that all the classes are in different modules. So where do I create the dict of classes mapped

Re: initialising a class by name

2009-01-14 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:19:23 +0530, Krishnakant wrote: On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 21:51 -0800, Chris Rebert wrote: Assuming all the classes are in the same module as the main program: instance = vars()[class_name](args, to, init) The classes are not in the same module. Every glade window is

MySQLdb LIKE '%%%s%%' problem

2009-01-14 Thread gumbah
I have this really strange problem. I hope someone can help: I am trying to update a database like so: UPDATE `tablename` set fieldx='test' WHERE flfieldx = null and fieldy like '%certainvalue%' My Python code looks like this: fillsql = UPDATE `tablename` set fieldx='test' WHERE flfieldx =

Re: read string in bits

2009-01-14 Thread John Machin
On Jan 14, 6:44 pm, ts thaisi...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 14, 3:32 pm, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:21 PM, ts thaisi...@gmail.com wrote: hi, is there a way to read a character/string into bits in python? i understand that character is read in bytes.

Re: read string in bits

2009-01-14 Thread Mark Smith
On Jan 14, 7:44 am, ts thaisi...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 14, 3:32 pm, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:21 PM, ts thaisi...@gmail.com wrote: hi, is there a way to read a character/string into bits in python? i understand that character is read in bytes.

Re: initialising a class by name

2009-01-14 Thread Krishnakant
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 00:20 -0800, Chris Rebert wrote: Aside from Steven's excellent idea, to use the getattr() technique with your module scheme you'd probably also need to use __import__() to dynamically import the right module. I would generally import all the modules I would need at the

Re: read string in bits

2009-01-14 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen
Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote: It's not quite clear to me what you mean, but here are 2 guesses: - If you want to convert an ASCII character to its ASCII integer value, use ord() - If you want to convert an integer into a string of its base-2 representation, use bin() [requires

Re: are there some special about '\x1a' symbol

2009-01-14 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen
Steve Holden stevenweb.com wrote: Unknown wrote: On 2009-01-12, John Machin sjmac...@lexicon.net wrote: I believe that feature was inherited by CP/M from DEC OSes (RSX-11 or RSTS-11). AFAICT, all of CP/M's file I/O API (including the FCB) was lifted almost directly from DEC's

Re: initialising a class by name

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Rebert
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Krishnakant krm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 00:20 -0800, Chris Rebert wrote: Aside from Steven's excellent idea, to use the getattr() technique with your module scheme you'd probably also need to use __import__() to dynamically import the right

Re: read string in bits

2009-01-14 Thread Mark Smith
On Jan 14, 7:44 am, ts thaisi...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 14, 3:32 pm, Chris Rebert c...@rebertia.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:21 PM, ts thaisi...@gmail.com wrote: hi, is there a way to read a character/string into bits in python? i understand that character is read in bytes.

Re: why cannot assign to function call

2009-01-14 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:06:58 +, Mark Wooding wrote: I'm going to move away from the formal semantics stuff and try a different tack. Here's what I think is the defining property of pass-by-value (distilled from the formal approach I described earlier, but shorn of the symbolism):

Re: Does Python really follow its philosophy of Readability counts?

2009-01-14 Thread Russ P.
On Jan 13, 11:51 pm, Paul Rubin http://phr...@nospam.invalid wrote: Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com writes: At GE there was no encapsulation in sight on any system I worked on. In fact, our engine simulation was a special-purpose object-oriented language with--get this--no private

RE: Could you suggest optimisations ?

2009-01-14 Thread Barak, Ron
Hi Terry, -Original Message- From: Terry Reedy [mailto:tjre...@udel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 01:57 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Could you suggest optimisations ? Barak, Ron wrote: Hi, In the attached script, the longest time is spent in the following

Re: Read binary file and dump data in

2009-01-14 Thread Santiago Romero
If you are reading arbitrary bytes then it will likely not always look like integers. What you probably meant is: for i in data:    print %d, % ord(i) That's it! :-) Thanks a lot. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: executing multiple functions in background simultaneously

2009-01-14 Thread Aaron Brady
On Jan 13, 7:02 pm, Catherine Moroney catherine.m.moro...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hello everybody, I know how to spawn a sub-process and then wait until it completes.  I'm wondering if I can do the same thing with a Python function. I would like to spawn off multiple instances of a function

PYTHON HTTP POST

2009-01-14 Thread lilanidhaval
Hi, I need one complete example of how to do a http post to any site. I have tried making a POST to google but all I am returned with is a 405 error. I don't want to use Pygoogle as I want to try and do this with other sites. I am also having problems inputing with the param I have tried

Re: initialising a class by name

2009-01-14 Thread Steve Holden
Krishnakant wrote: hello all, I have a strange situation where I have to load initiate an instance of a class at run-time with the name given by the user from a dropdown list. Is this possible in python and how? To make things clear, let me give the real example. there is an inventory

Re: Does Python really follow its philosophy of Readability counts?

2009-01-14 Thread Russ P.
On Jan 13, 11:40 pm, Steven D'Aprano ste...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au wrote: But, gosh darn it, wouldn't it be nice to program the critical parts of your code in strict Python, and leave the rest as trusting Python, instead of having to use Java for the lot just to get strictness in the

Re: MySQLdb LIKE '%%%s%%' problem

2009-01-14 Thread John Machin
On Jan 14, 7:31 pm, gumbah joost.ruy...@gmail.com wrote: I have this really strange problem. I hope someone can help: I am trying to update a database like so: UPDATE `tablename` set fieldx='test' WHERE flfieldx = null and fieldy like '%certainvalue%' My Python code looks like this:

Re: PYTHON HTTP POST

2009-01-14 Thread koranthala
Does google accept POST? Anyways, if you dont need to post files, you can use urlencode itself. def encode_formdata(fields): body = urllib.urlencode(dict(fields)) content_type = application/x-www-form-urlencoded return content_type, body If you need to post files too,

Re: why cannot assign to function call

2009-01-14 Thread Mark Wooding
Steven D'Aprano ste...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au wrote: Ah! (say I) but assignment in C and Pascal looks different from the way it looks in C I'm sorry, that confuses me. Assignment in C looks different from the way it looks in C? I guess the second C should be Python. Yes, you're

Re: initialising a class by name

2009-01-14 Thread Krishnakant
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 04:09 -0500, Steve Holden wrote: You don't need to have the names of the classes related to anything in the interface. Just use a list of classes, and have the user interface return the correct index for each class. Then (supposing the selection by the user is seln)

Re: PYTHON HTTP POST

2009-01-14 Thread koranthala
On Jan 14, 2:21 pm, koranth...@gmail.com wrote: Does google accept POST? Anyways, if you dont need to post files, you can use urlencode itself. def encode_formdata(fields):         body = urllib.urlencode(dict(fields))         content_type = application/x-www-form-urlencoded         return

Why this code is working?

2009-01-14 Thread Hussein B
Hey, Why this code is working? def f1( ): ... x = 88 ... f2(x) ... def f2(x): ... print x ... f1( ) 88 Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: initialising a class by name

2009-01-14 Thread Krishnakant
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 00:39 -0800, Chris Rebert wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Krishnakant krm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 00:20 -0800, Chris Rebert wrote: Aside from Steven's excellent idea, to use the getattr() technique with your module scheme you'd probably also

Re: Why this code is working?

2009-01-14 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Hussein B a écrit : Hey, Why this code is working? def f1( ): ... x = 88 ... f2(x) ... def f2(x): ... print x ... f1( ) 88 Well... Because it is correct ? What make you think it _shouldn't_ work ? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: MySQLdb LIKE '%%%s%%' problem

2009-01-14 Thread gumbah
Hi John, thanks a lot for your quick reply! I tried all of your suggestions but none of them work... I have a clue on why it is failing: MySQLdb seems to quote the % characters or something... Even when i do: cursor.execute(UPDATE tablename set fieldx='test' WHERE flfieldx is null and fieldy

Re: Why this code is working?

2009-01-14 Thread Hussein B
On Jan 14, 11:55 am, Bruno Desthuilliers bruno. 42.desthuilli...@websiteburo.invalid wrote: Hussein B a écrit : Hey, Why this code is working? def f1( ): ...      x = 88 ...      f2(x) ... def f2(x): ...      print x ... f1( ) 88 Well... Because it is correct ? What

Re: why cannot assign to function call

2009-01-14 Thread Mark Wooding
Aaron Brady castiro...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 13, 5:06 pm, Mark Wooding m...@distorted.org.uk wrote: snip I'm going to move away from the formal semantics stuff and try a different tack. Here's what I think is the defining property of pass-by-value (distilled from the formal approach I

Re: Why this code is working?

2009-01-14 Thread Peter Otten
Hussein B wrote: Why this code is working? def f1( ): ... x = 88 ... f2(x) ... def f2(x): ... print x ... f1( ) 88 The name 'f2' is not resolved once when the f1 function is created. Instead Python looks for a global name 'f2' each time f1 is executed. Peter --

Re: MySQLdb LIKE '%%%s%%' problem

2009-01-14 Thread gumbah
Yep, also tried that. Weird thing is that I get no errors, it's just silently not updating... On 14 jan, 11:06, Peter Otten __pete...@web.de wrote: gumbah wrote: I tried all of your suggestions but none of them work... I have a clue on why it is failing: MySQLdb seems to quote the %

Parent module not loaded error

2009-01-14 Thread Ståle Undheim
I have a pretty strange error that I can't figure out the cause off. This is in a Django app. I am using berkelydb, with secondary databases for indexing. The secondary databases are associated with a callback that uses cPickle to serialize index values. The problem is that cPickle.dumps(value)

Re: MySQLdb LIKE '%%%s%%' problem

2009-01-14 Thread gumbah
Aahh the conn.commit() DID the trick!! I tried that before, but then it failed at another point. I got it working now! Thanks a lot Peter and John!! cheers! On 14 jan, 11:14, gumbah joost.ruy...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, also tried that. Weird thing is that I get no errors, it's just silently not

os system command not found

2009-01-14 Thread codicedave
Hi all! I installed a external program called infomap using the classical procedure ./configure make sudo make install and it works perfectly in Terminal (Os x) using both bash and tcsh shell admins-macbook-pro-2:~ unil$ infomap-build Usage: infomap-build [-w working_dir] [-p param_file]

Re: Parent module not loaded error

2009-01-14 Thread Graham Dumpleton
On Jan 14, 9:20 pm, Ståle Undheim staa...@gmail.com wrote: I have a pretty strange error that I can't figure out the cause off. This is in a Django app. I am using berkelydb, with secondary databases for indexing. The secondary databases are associated with a callback that uses cPickle to

Re: Implementing file reading in C/Python

2009-01-14 Thread David Bolen
Johannes Bauer dfnsonfsdu...@gmx.de writes: Yup, I changed the Python code to behave the same way the C code did - however overall it's not much of an improvement: Takes about 15 minutes to execute (still factor 23). Not sure this is completely fair if you're only looking for a pure Python

Re: MySQLdb LIKE '%%%s%%' problem

2009-01-14 Thread Steve Holden
gumbah wrote: I have this really strange problem. I hope someone can help: I am trying to update a database like so: UPDATE `tablename` set fieldx='test' WHERE flfieldx = null and fieldy like '%certainvalue%' My Python code looks like this: fillsql = UPDATE `tablename` set

Re: initialising a class by name

2009-01-14 Thread Willi Richert
Hi, try the following exemplarily for the os module import os, types [(c, klass) for (c,klass) in os.__dict__.items() if type(klass)==types.ClassType] will print: [('_Environ', class os._Environ at 0xb7d8114c)] Regards, wr Am Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2009 10:55:27 schrieb Krishnakant: On Wed,

Re: Parent module not loaded error

2009-01-14 Thread Ståle Undheim
On Jan 14, 11:31 am, Graham Dumpleton graham.dumple...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 14, 9:20 pm, Ståle Undheim staa...@gmail.com wrote: I have a pretty strange error that I can't figure out the cause off. This is in a Django app. I am using berkelydb, with secondary databases for indexing.

Re: Parent module not loaded error

2009-01-14 Thread Graham Dumpleton
On Jan 14, 9:41 pm, Ståle Undheim staa...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 14, 11:31 am, Graham Dumpleton graham.dumple...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 14, 9:20 pm, Ståle Undheim staa...@gmail.com wrote: I have a pretty strange error that I can't figure out the cause off. This is in a Django app.

Re: Does Python really follow its philosophy of Readability counts?

2009-01-14 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Russ P. a écrit : (snip) I think the issue here is the distinction between hacking and software engineering. I may be misusing the term hacking, but I do not mean it in a pejoritive sense. I just mean getting things done fast without a lot of concern for safety, security, and long-term

Re: 'Import sys' succeeds in C++ embedded code, but module is not fully visible

2009-01-14 Thread Ben Sizer
On Jan 14, 1:55 am, Ivan Illarionov ivan.illario...@gmail.com wrote: Ben Sizer kylo...@gmail.com wrote: What am I doing wrong? What are you trying to achieve? If you want to modify sys.path I suggest using Python/C API directly: No, I don't want to do anything with sys.path apart from see

Re: PYTHON HTTP POST

2009-01-14 Thread dhaval
The action part of the field is not set to anything. I need any site with working example that accepts POST. On Jan 14, 2:21 pm, koranth...@gmail.com wrote: Does google accept POST? Anyways, if you dont need to post files, you can use urlencode itself. def encode_formdata(fields):

Re: Does Python really follow its philosophy of Readability counts?

2009-01-14 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:14:06 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:25:38 +1000, James Mills wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Russ P. russ.paie...@gmail.com wrote: (...) Give me one use-case where you strictly require that members of an object be private and their

Re: MySQLdb LIKE '%%%s%%' problem

2009-01-14 Thread John Machin
On Jan 14, 8:55 pm, gumbah joost.ruy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, thanks a lot for your quick reply! Please don't top-post. Please answer the question You don't say what doesn't work means ... did you get exceptions, or just silently not updating? I tried all of your suggestions but none of

Re: Standard IPC for Python?

2009-01-14 Thread sturlamolden
On Jan 13, 5:25 pm, Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com wrote: I would like to develop some module for Python for IPC. Socket programming howto recommends that for local communication, and I personally experienced problems with TCP (see my previous post: Slow network). There are plenty of

Re: MySQLdb LIKE '%%%s%%' problem

2009-01-14 Thread John Machin
On Jan 14, 9:22 pm, gumbah joost.ruy...@gmail.com wrote: Aahh the conn.commit() DID the trick!! I tried that before, but then it failed at another point. I got it working now! Thanks a lot Peter and John!! For the benefit of future searchers, can you please tell us which varieties of

PYTHON HTTP POST WORKING EXAMPLE NEEDED

2009-01-14 Thread dhaval
Hi, Can someone please give me an example of a working python post? for example using the site http://www.cookiemag.com/ Thanks in advance, Dhaval -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PYTHON HTTP POST WORKING EXAMPLE NEEDED

2009-01-14 Thread dhaval
On Jan 14, 4:11 pm, dhaval lilanidha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can someone please give me an example of a working python post? for example using the sitehttp://www.cookiemag.com/ Thanks in advance, Dhaval I have tried to look at the code at http://code.activestate.com/recipes/146306/ I can't

Re: Re: problem calling method

2009-01-14 Thread pieterprovoost
The parent is called like this (I didn't copy that line): def __init__(self, *args, **kwds): # begin wxGlade: MyFrame.__init__ kwds[style] = wx.DEFAULT_FRAME_STYLE wx.Frame.__init__(self, *args, **kwds) The frame works fine and so does the button, but somehow I cannot call the

[ANN] SWIG 1.3.37

2009-01-14 Thread Haoyu Bai
This is the SWIG with Python 3.0 support! :) *** ANNOUNCE: SWIG 1.3.37 (13 January 2009) *** http://www.swig.org We're pleased to announce SWIG-1.3.37, the latest installment in the SWIG development effort. SWIG-1.3.37 includes a number of bug fixes and enhancements. What is SWIG?

Re: Does Python really follow its philosophy of Readability counts?

2009-01-14 Thread Carl Banks
On Jan 14, 2:44 am, Russ P. russ.paie...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 13, 11:51 pm, Paul Rubin http://phr...@nospam.invalid wrote: Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com writes: At GE there was no encapsulation in sight on any system I worked on. In fact, our engine simulation was a

Re: sys.stdout.write()'s bug or doc bug?

2009-01-14 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:38:48 -0800, Aahz wrote: In article f6fd0b02-effe-4be5-aeee-10d831f1c...@w24g2000prd.googlegroups.com, Qiangning Hong hon...@gmail.com wrote: So, my question is, as sys.stdout IS a file object, why it does not use its encoding attribute to convert the given unicode?

Re: Does Python really follow its philosophy of Readability counts?

2009-01-14 Thread Terry Reedy
Paul Rubin wrote: James Mills prolo...@shortcircuit.net.au writes: You do realize this is a model and not strictly a requirement. Quite a few things in Python are done merely by convention. Don't get caught up. But, if something is done by convention, then departing from the convention is by

Re: PYTHON HTTP POST WORKING EXAMPLE NEEDED

2009-01-14 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
dhaval wrote: On Jan 14, 4:11 pm, dhaval lilanidha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can someone please give me an example of a working python post? for example using the sitehttp://www.cookiemag.com/ Thanks in advance, Dhaval I have tried to look at the code at

Re: Parent module not loaded error

2009-01-14 Thread Ståle Undheim
On Jan 14, 11:48 am, Graham Dumpleton graham.dumple...@gmail.com wrote: As a test, just prior to where unpickle is done, do:   import sys   import d4   print sys.stderr, d4.__name__, dr.__name__   print sys.stderr, d4.__file__, dr.__file__ This will just confirm that manual import works

Re: Standard IPC for Python?

2009-01-14 Thread Laszlo Nagy
There are plenty of different IPC mechanisms available in multiprocessing. It is good for a special case: a tree of processes, forked from a main process. multiprocessing.Queue cannot be used as a general message queue between arbitrary processes. - mmap.mmap with 0 or -1 as the first

Re: MySQLdb LIKE '%%%s%%' problem

2009-01-14 Thread John Machin
On Jan 14, 9:42 pm, Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com wrote: 3. I can't be certain my experience with PostgreSQL extends to MySQl, but I have done experiments which prove to my satisfaction that it isn't possible to parameterize LIKE arguments. So the only way to do it appears to be to build

Re: Does Python really follow its philosophy of Readability counts?

2009-01-14 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:53:33 +, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:14:06 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:25:38 +1000, James Mills wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Russ P. russ.paie...@gmail.com wrote: (...) Give me one use-case where

Re: Standard IPC for Python?

2009-01-14 Thread sturlamolden
On Jan 14, 12:47 pm, Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com wrote: multiprocessing.Queue cannot be used as a general message queue between arbitrary processes. Then e.g. use Listener and Client in multiprocessing.connection to create a named pipe (AF_PIPE). Or use win32pipe.CreateNamedPipe from

Re: Why this code is working?

2009-01-14 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:57:48 -0800, Hussein B wrote: Well... Because it is correct ? What make you think it _shouldn't_ work ? Because def2 is defined after def1 in an interpreted language, not compiled. Python is compiled. What do you think the c in .pyc stands for? And what do you

Re: MySQLdb LIKE '%%%s%%' problem

2009-01-14 Thread Peter Otten
gumbah wrote: I tried all of your suggestions but none of them work... I have a clue on why it is failing: MySQLdb seems to quote the % characters or something... Even when i do: cursor.execute(UPDATE tablename set fieldx='test' WHERE flfieldx is null and fieldy like '%therealvalue%'

Re: Why this code is working?

2009-01-14 Thread Hussein B
On Jan 14, 2:21 pm, Steven D'Aprano st...@remove-this- cybersource.com.au wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:57:48 -0800, Hussein B wrote: Well... Because it is correct ? What make you think it _shouldn't_ work ? Because def2 is defined after def1 in an interpreted language, not compiled.

Re: os system command not found

2009-01-14 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:25:52 -0800, codicedave wrote: Hi all! I installed a external program called infomap using the classical procedure ./configure make sudo make install and it works perfectly in Terminal (Os x) using both bash and tcsh shell What happens when you call it using

Re: Why this code is working?

2009-01-14 Thread Benjamin Kaplan
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Hussein B hubaghd...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 14, 2:21 pm, Steven D'Aprano st...@remove-this- cybersource.com.au wrote:a On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:57:48 -0800, Hussein B wrote: Well... Because it is correct ? What make you think it _shouldn't_ work ?

Re: Does Python really follow its philosophy of Readability counts?

2009-01-14 Thread Benjamin Kaplan
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Steven D'Aprano st...@remove-this-cybersource.com.au wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:53:33 +, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:14:06 +, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:25:38 +1000, James Mills wrote: On Wed,

Re: Why this code is working?

2009-01-14 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
r wrote: Listen Hussien, Granted, with a name of r, spelling it wrong is hard, and thus you might not be trained in the art of spelling names proper. But I suggest you try your best. After all, you posts lack so much in content, you could at least excel in form... In python you do not have to

Re: ctype problem

2009-01-14 Thread Nick Craig-Wood
Grimson grim...@gmx.de wrote: hello out there, I have a problem with c-types. I made a c-library, which expects a pointer to a self defined structure. let the funtion call myfunction(struct interface* iface) and the struct: struct interface { int a; int b; char

Re: are there some special about '\x1a' symbol

2009-01-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-01-14, Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com wrote: Unknown wrote: On 2009-01-12, John Machin sjmac...@lexicon.net wrote: I didn't think your question was stupid. Stupid was (a) CP/M recording file size as number of 128-byte sectors, forcing the use of an in-band EOF marker for text

Re: why cannot assign to function call

2009-01-14 Thread Aaron Brady
On Jan 14, 3:51 am, Mark Wooding m...@distorted.org.uk wrote: Aaron Brady castiro...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 13, 5:06 pm, Mark Wooding m...@distorted.org.uk wrote: snip I'm going to move away from the formal semantics stuff and try a different tack.  Here's what I think is the defining

Re: [OT] Re: are there some special about '\x1a' symbol

2009-01-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-01-14, Gabriel Genellina gagsl-...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: En Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:04:33 -0200, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu escribió: Gabriel Genellina wrote: En Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:00:16 -0200, John Machin sjmac...@lexicon.net escribió: I didn't think your question was stupid.

can someone tell me why this doesn't work please python 3

2009-01-14 Thread garywood
def ask_ok(prompt, retries=4, complaint=Yes or no, please!): while True: password = input(enter something) if password in ('y', 'ye', 'yes'): return True if password in ('n', 'no', 'nope'): return False retries = retries - 1 if retries 0:

Re: pep 8 constants

2009-01-14 Thread Benjamin Kaplan
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Steven D'Aprano ste...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au wrote: On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:26:54 -0800, Brendan Miller wrote: I tend to use constants as a means of avoiding the proliferation of magic literals for maintenance reasons... Like say if your example of

Re: os system command not found

2009-01-14 Thread codicedave
On 14 Gen, 13:16, Steven D'Aprano st...@remove-this- cybersource.com.au wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:25:52 -0800, codicedave wrote: Hi all! I installed a external program called infomap using the classical procedure ./configure make sudo make install  and it works perfectly in

Re: os system command not found

2009-01-14 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
codicedave wrote: On 14 Gen, 13:16, Steven D'Aprano st...@remove-this- cybersource.com.au wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:25:52 -0800, codicedave wrote: Hi all! I installed a external program called infomap using the classical procedure ./configure make sudo make install and it

Re: initialising a class by name

2009-01-14 Thread Sion Arrowsmith
Krishnakant krm...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, is there a kind of global list of modules/classes which are maintained in a package once the program is loaded into memory? sys.modules is a dict of loaded module objects, keyed by module name. So: getattr(sys.modules[sys], version_info) (2, 5,

Twisted Trial - Framework for Test

2009-01-14 Thread wladimir
Hi, Somebody have some tutorial or examples using Twisted Trial?? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Twisted-Trial---Framework-for-Test-tp21456710p21456710.html Sent from the Python - python-list mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --

Re: LGPL license for Qt 4.5

2009-01-14 Thread drobi...@gmail.com
On Jan 14, 7:57 am, sturlamolden sturlamol...@yahoo.no wrote: According to a Norwegian publication, Nokia will release Qt under LGPL as of version 4.5. If I had stocks in Riverbank Computing ltd., I would sell them now... For the rest of us, this is fantastic news.

Re: LGPL license for Qt 4.5

2009-01-14 Thread sturlamolden
On Jan 14, 3:11 pm, drobi...@gmail.com drobi...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 14, 7:57 am, sturlamolden sturlamol...@yahoo.no wrote: According to a Norwegian publication, Nokia will release Qt under LGPL as of version 4.5. If I had stocks in Riverbank Computing ltd., I would sell them now...

Re: Understanding search queries, semantics, and Meaning ...aren't we all looking for meaning?

2009-01-14 Thread Aahz
In article 82372457-2503-4682-96b3-37540328b...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com, 5lvqbw...@sneakemail.com wrote: I have Section 4.4.1 of SICP rattling around in my head (database queries), and I'm trying to come up with a simple dictionary-based database in Python to represent circuit diagrams. My

Re: os system command not found

2009-01-14 Thread Daniel da Silva
On Jan 14, 5:25 am, codicedave davide.pi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! I installed a external program called infomap using the classical procedure ./configure make sudo make install  and it works perfectly in Terminal (Os x) using both bash and tcsh shell admins-macbook-pro-2:~ unil$

pyjamas 0.4p1 release

2009-01-14 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
This is a minor patch release of pyjamas 0.4p1, the Python-to-Javascript compiler and Python Web UI Widgets Toolkit. What is Pyjamas for? Pyjamas allows a developer to create U.I applications in python as if the Web Browser was a Desktop Widget Set toolkit platform (like pygtk2, pywxWidgets and

Re: can someone tell me why this doesn't work please python 3

2009-01-14 Thread Gary M. Josack
garywood wrote: def ask_ok(prompt, retries=4, complaint=Yes or no, please!): while True: password = input(enter something) if password in ('y', 'ye', 'yes'): return True if password in ('n', 'no', 'nope'): return False retries = retries - 1 if retries

Re: can someone tell me why this doesn't work please python 3

2009-01-14 Thread Ben Kaplan
On Jan 14, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Gary M. Josack g...@byoteki.com wrote: garywood wrote: def ask_ok(prompt, retries=4, complaint=Yes or no, please!): while True: password = input(enter something) if password in ('y', 'ye', 'yes'): return True if password in ('n', 'no',

Re: can someone tell me why this doesn't work please python 3

2009-01-14 Thread Gary M. Josack
Ben Kaplan wrote: On Jan 14, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Gary M. Josack g...@byoteki.com wrote: garywood wrote: def ask_ok(prompt, retries=4, complaint=Yes or no, please!): while True: password = input(enter something) if password in ('y', 'ye', 'yes'): return True if password

Re: Why this code is working?

2009-01-14 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Hussein B a écrit : On Jan 14, 11:55 am, Bruno Desthuilliers bruno. 42.desthuilli...@websiteburo.invalid wrote: Hussein B a écrit : Hey, Why this code is working? def f1( ): ... x = 88 ... f2(x) ... def f2(x): ... print x ... f1( ) 88 Well... Because it is correct ?

Re: Why this code is working?

2009-01-14 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Hussein B a écrit : On Jan 14, 2:21 pm, Steven D'Aprano st...@remove-this- cybersource.com.au wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:57:48 -0800, Hussein B wrote: Well... Because it is correct ? What make you think it _shouldn't_ work ? Because def2 is defined after def1 in an interpreted language,

Re: are there some special about '\x1a' symbol

2009-01-14 Thread Mel
Steve Holden wrote: Unknown wrote: On 2009-01-12, John Machin sjmac...@lexicon.net wrote: I didn't think your question was stupid. Stupid was (a) CP/M recording file size as number of 128-byte sectors, forcing the use of an in-band EOF marker for text files (b) MS continuing to regard Ctrl-Z

Re: can someone tell me why this doesn't work please python 3

2009-01-14 Thread Michael Hartl
garywood schrieb: def ask_ok(prompt, retries=4, complaint=Yes or no, please!): while True: password = input(enter something) if password in ('y', 'ye', 'yes'): return True if password in ('n', 'no', 'nope'): return False retries = retries - 1 if

Re: initialising a class by name

2009-01-14 Thread Nick Craig-Wood
Krishnakant hackin...@gmail.com wrote: I liked this idea of dispatchTable. is it possible to say some thing like inst = dispatchTable{ham} according to me, inst will become the instance of class ham. Another thing to note is that all the classes are in different modules. So where do I

Re: MySQLdb LIKE '%%%s%%' problem

2009-01-14 Thread Marco Mariani
Steve Holden wrote: 3. I can't be certain my experience with PostgreSQL extends to MySQl, but I have done experiments which prove to my satisfaction that it isn't possible to parameterize LIKE arguments. So the only way to do it appears to be to build the query yourself. Or using Postgres

Re: Does Python really follow its philosophy of Readability counts?

2009-01-14 Thread Paul Rubin
Bruno Desthuilliers bruno.42.desthuilli...@websiteburo.invalid writes: If the programmer could somehow disallow it in certain classes, Already possible - you just have to provide your own implementation of __setattr__. Part of the idea of non-dynamic attribute sets is to make the program

Re: Does Python really follow its philosophy of Readability counts?

2009-01-14 Thread Luis Zarrabeitia
On Wednesday 14 January 2009 02:22:45 am Paul Rubin wrote: 2. There is also nothing inherent in a dynamic OO language that says that class descriptors have to be mutable, any more than strings have to be mutable (Python has immutable strings).  I agree that being able to modify class

Re: Does Python really follow its philosophy of Readability counts?

2009-01-14 Thread Mel
Russ P. wrote: On Jan 13, 11:40 pm, Steven D'Aprano ste...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au wrote: But, gosh darn it, wouldn't it be nice to program the critical parts of your code in strict Python, and leave the rest as trusting Python, instead of having to use Java for the lot just to get

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