ANN: Python process utility (psutil) 0.1.1 released

2009-03-07 Thread Giampaolo Rodola'
Hi, I'm pleased to announce the 0.1.1 release of psutil: http://code.google.com/p/psutil === About === psutil is a module providing an interface for retrieving information on running processes in a portable way by using Python. It currently supports Linux, OS X, FreeBSD and Windows. ===

Announcing PAM 3.0 for Web testing

2009-03-07 Thread bobm_qa
Python Automation Module version 3.0 (PAM30.py). This python module allows simple automation of the Internet Explorer Browser by using the COM object. This can be used in QA or Development testing to write Automation tests in Python . Easy to use. Note: This version only only works with Python

pyIDL-0.7c2

2009-03-07 Thread Michael McKerns
updated Python bindings for ITT's IDL http://www.its.caltech.edu/~mmckerns/software.html # Version 0.7c2: 03/06/09 added support for idl_7.0 installs with setuptools, if available more gentle install dependency failure sensible path defaults for linux and mac slight change in license

ANN: eric 4.3.1 released

2009-03-07 Thread Detlev Offenbach
Hi, I just uploaded eric 4.3.1. It is a maintenance release fixing some bugs. It is available via the eric4 web site. http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/index.html Eric is a Python (and Ruby) IDE that comes with batteries included. Please see the a.m. web site for more details. Regards,

Jython 2.5 beta 2 Released

2009-03-07 Thread Frank Wierzbicki
On behalf of the Jython development team, I'm pleased to announce that Jython 2.5b2 is available for download here: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/jython/jython_installer-2.5b2.jar. See http://www.jython.org/Project/installation.html for installation instructions. Unless a severe bug is found,

Re: /a is not /a ?

2009-03-07 Thread Paul Rubin
alex23 wuwe...@gmail.com writes: But _you_ only _just_ stated It does have some (generally small) performance ramifications as well and provided timing examples to show it. Without qualification. The performance difference can be large if the objects are (for example) long lists. --

Re: /a is not /a ?

2009-03-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 23:57 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: alex23 wuwe...@gmail.com writes: But _you_ only _just_ stated It does have some (generally small) performance ramifications as well and provided timing examples to show it. Without qualification. The performance difference can be large

Re: /a is not /a ?

2009-03-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 03:07 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 23:57 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: alex23 wuwe...@gmail.com writes: But _you_ only _just_ stated It does have some (generally small) performance ramifications as well and provided timing examples to show it.

Re: /a is not /a ?

2009-03-07 Thread Steven D'Aprano
Albert Hopkins wrote: I would think (not having looked) that the implementation of == would first check for identity (for performance reasons)... For some types, it may. I believe that string equality testing first tests whether the two strings are the same string, then tests if they have the

Re: Help cleaning up some code

2009-03-07 Thread Gerard Flanagan
odeits wrote: I am looking to clean up this code... any help is much appreciated. Note: It works just fine, I just think it could be done cleaner. The result is a stack of dictionaries. the query returns up to STACK_SIZE ads for a user. The check which i think is very ugly is putting another

Re: Threading and tkinter

2009-03-07 Thread Jani Hakala
gert gert.cuyk...@gmail.com writes: After reading the docs and seeing a few examples i think this should work ? Am I forgetting something here or am I doing something stupid ? Anyway I see my yellow screen, that has to count for something :) I have been using the following scheme: - Pass

Re: /a is not /a ?

2009-03-07 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:26:46 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: Gary Herron gher...@islandtraining.com writes: Experts: Singleton immutable types *may* be compared with is, That is absolutely wrong: a = 2^100 b = 2^100 a == b True a is b False What should this

Re: /a is not /a ?

2009-03-07 Thread Paul Rubin
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch bj_...@gmx.net writes: What should this example show? And where's the singleton here? BTW: I misunderstood at first what you meant by singleton. Sorry. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Is there a better way of doing this?

2009-03-07 Thread mattia
Il Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:05:53 -0200, Gabriel Genellina ha scritto: En Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:31:01 -0200, mattia ger...@gmail.com escribió: Thanks, I've found another solution here: http://www.obitko.com/tutorials/ genetic-algorithms/selection.php so here is my implementation: def

Re: Parsing/Crawler Questions - solution

2009-03-07 Thread Lie Ryan
bruce wrote: john... again the problem i'm facing really has nothing to do with a specific url... the app i have for the usc site works... but for any number of reasons... you might get different results when running the app.. -the server could be screwed up.. -data might be cached -data

pass bool values to the Python function in embedded python 3.0

2009-03-07 Thread BigHand
Guys, How do I transfer the parameters ? in python code: traceback.format_exception(exc_type, exc_val, exc_tb, 2, True) in C++ code: obFunc_format_exception = PyObject_GetAttrString(modTB, format_exception); tbArgs = Py_BuildValue(OOOii, exc_type, exc_value, exc_tb, 2, 1); tbResultList =

Re: create boolean

2009-03-07 Thread Lie Ryan
Fencer wrote: Hi, I need a boolean b to be true if the variable n is not None and not an empty list, otherwise b should be false. I ended up with: b = n is not None and not not n which seems to work but is that normally how you would do it? It can be assumed that n is always None or a list that

Re: /a is not /a ?

2009-03-07 Thread Lie Ryan
Steven D'Aprano wrote: Albert Hopkins wrote: I would think (not having looked) that the implementation of == would first check for identity (for performance reasons)... For some types, it may. I believe that string equality testing first tests whether the two strings are the same string,

Re: pass bool values to the Python function in embedded python 3.0

2009-03-07 Thread BigHand
On Mar 7, 5:38 pm, BigHand hewei...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, How do I transfer the parameters ? in python code: traceback.format_exception(exc_type, exc_val, exc_tb, 2, True) in C++ code: obFunc_format_exception = PyObject_GetAttrString(modTB, format_exception); tbArgs = Py_BuildValue(OOOii,

Re: Indentations and future evolution of languages

2009-03-07 Thread Kay Schluehr
On 6 Mrz., 02:53, bearophileh...@lycos.com wrote: This is an interesting post, it shows me that fitness plateau where design of Python syntax lives is really small, you can't design something just similar: http://unlimitednovelty.com/2009/03/indentation-sensitivity-post-mort... Living on a

Re: Parsing/Crawler Questions - solution

2009-03-07 Thread lkcl
On Mar 7, 12:19 am, rounderwe...@gmail.com wrote: So, it sounds like your update means that it is related to a specific url. I'm curious about this issue myself. I've often wondered how one could properly crawl anAJAX-ish site when you're not sure how quickly the data will be returned after

ANN: eric 4.3.1 released

2009-03-07 Thread Detlev Offenbach
Hi, I just uploaded eric 4.3.1. It is a maintenance release fixing some bugs. It is available via the eric4 web site. http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/index.html Eric is a Python (and Ruby) IDE that comes with batteries included. Please see the a.m. web site for more details. Regards,

Re: create boolean

2009-03-07 Thread Paul Rubin
Fencer no.s...@plz.ok writes: Hi, I need a boolean b to be true if the variable n is not None and not an empty list, otherwise b should be false It can be assumed that n is always None or a list that might be empty b = bool(n) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Is there a better way of doing this?

2009-03-07 Thread Lie Ryan
mattia wrote: Il Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:05:53 -0200, Gabriel Genellina ha scritto: En Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:31:01 -0200, mattia ger...@gmail.com escribió: Thanks, I've found another solution here: http://www.obitko.com/tutorials/ genetic-algorithms/selection.php so here is my implementation:

Re: Is there a better way of doing this?

2009-03-07 Thread Peter Otten
Lie Ryan wrote: mattia wrote: Yes, sorry, I have to recycle! But how about this: rw = [[2,4], [4,5,6],[5,5]] rw += [[1,1]]*2 rw [[2, 4], [4, 5, 6], [5, 5], [1, 1], [1, 1]] How can I recicle in this way using append? Not .append() but .extend() Whether you use items += [item]*N or

Re: ANN: eric 4.3.1 released

2009-03-07 Thread BigHand
On Mar 7, 6:59 pm, Detlev Offenbach det...@die-offenbachs.de wrote: Hi, I just uploaded eric 4.3.1. It is a maintenance release fixing some bugs. It is available via the eric4 web site. http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/index.html Eric is a Python (and Ruby) IDE that comes with batteries

Re: Help cleaning up some code

2009-03-07 Thread andrew cooke
ah, yes, i didn't see that clearly. in this case it might be better to have: def copy(src, dst, name, null): value = src[name] dst[name] = null if value is None else value and then make it explicit in both cases: copy(row, ad, name, null=None) ... copy(row, ad, name, null='None') andrew

Re: retrieve traceback in embedded python of Python3.0?

2009-03-07 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:43:05 -0200, BigHand hewei...@gmail.com escribió: On Mar 7, 11:40 am, BigHand hewei...@gmail.com wrote: Guys: I have a embedded python in MFC app. to execute a py script of a.py, the is only one line in a.py, it a() , normally ,excute this script file ,you will get a  the

Re: /a is not /a ?

2009-03-07 Thread Mel
Emanuele D'Arrigo wrote: Gary, thanks for your reply: your explanation does pretty much answer my question. One thing I can add however is that it really seems that non-alphanumeric characters such as the forward slash make the difference, not just the number of characters. I.e. (Actually, we

Re: /a is not /a ?

2009-03-07 Thread Mel
wrote: Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info writes: It is never correct to avoid using is when you need to compare for identity. When is it ever necessary to compare for identity? Ho-hum. MUDD game. def broadcast (sender, message): for p in all_players: if p is not sender:

can't print the exception cause/context in Python3.0?

2009-03-07 Thread BigHand
Here is copy from my IDLE of python 3.0 import sys import traceback def a(): b() def b(): return tuple()[0] try: a() except: exc_typ, exc_val, exc_tb = sys.exc_info() traceback.print_tb(exc_tb) File pyshell#14, line 2, in module File pyshell#6, line

Re: /a is not /a ?

2009-03-07 Thread Christian Heimes
Steven D'Aprano wrote: Yes. Floating point NANs are required to compare unequal to all floats, including themselves. It's part of the IEEE standard. As far as I remember that's not correct. It's just the way C has interpreted the standard and Python inherited the behavior. But you may proof me

Re: doctest + shelve question

2009-03-07 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:56:07 -0200, Sebastian Bartos seth.kriti...@googlemail.com escribió: I have a question. I'm writing a simple object serialization module using shelve to write arbitrary objects to a file (M.py). Now I have the problem, that if I create a simple object in the doctest

Re: pass bool values to the Python function in embedded python 3.0

2009-03-07 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:38:29 -0200, BigHand hewei...@gmail.com escribió: how do I pass True to the Python function in the C++ code? (I've already suggested using PyErr_Print/PyTraceback_Print instead) See the section Boolean Objects in the C API Reference: PyObject* Py_True The Python True

Re: ANN: Dao, the official 1.0 version is released

2009-03-07 Thread Limin Fu
I don't think there is confusion here, because the Microsoft database access method DAO is not a programming language. Whatever it is, the name does tend to lend confusion with the older Microsoft database access method DAO (which was superceded by ADO). -- Wulfraed

Re: Help cleaning up some code

2009-03-07 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
odeits wrote: I am looking to clean up this code... any help is much appreciated. Note: It works just fine, I just think it could be done cleaner. The result is a stack of dictionaries. the query returns up to STACK_SIZE ads for a user. The check which i think is very ugly is putting another

Re: Eclipse And PyDev

2009-03-07 Thread Fabio Zadrozny
I realize this question may not belong here but I am going to ask anyway to the current users of Eclipse and PyDev.  It's regarding the auto-complete feature.  Say you want to type sys.path.append('yada yada yada'), using say Komodo or IDLE.  When you get to sys.path.ap and type a (, it will

Re: can't print the exception cause/context in Python3.0?

2009-03-07 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:46:08 -0200, BigHand hewei...@gmail.com escribió: Here is copy from my IDLE of python 3.0 traceback.print_tb(exc_tb) File pyshell#14, line 2, in module File pyshell#6, line 2, in a File pyshell#9, line 2, in b but this doesn't output the cause/context like 2.6:

Re: ANN: Dao, the official 1.0 version is released

2009-03-07 Thread MRAB
Limin Fu wrote: Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: Whatever it is, the name does tend to lend confusion with the older Microsoft database access method DAO (which was superceded by ADO). I don't think there is confusion here, because the Microsoft database access method DAO is not a programming

Re: Translating pysnmp oids to human readable strings

2009-03-07 Thread SpamMePlease PleasePlease
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Shantanu Joshi weemadart...@gmail.com wrote: SpamMePlease PleasePlease spankthes...@googlemail.com writes: I actually tried to load the new file with following code: print builder.MibBuilder().getMibPath() mibBuilder =

Re: ANN: Dao, the official 1.0 version is released

2009-03-07 Thread Limin Fu
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 5:14 PM, MRAB goo...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: Limin Fu wrote: Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: Whatever it is, the name does tend to lend confusion with the older Microsoft database access method DAO (which was superceded by ADO). I don't think there is confusion here,

Re: /a is not /a ?

2009-03-07 Thread Emanuele D'Arrigo
On Mar 6, 10:46 pm, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: For b), the rationale is that such string literals in source code are often used to denote names, e.g. for getattr() calls and the like. As all names are interned, name-like strings get interned also. Thank you Martin, and all

Import, Inheritance, Scoping -- I'm doing something wrong with one of these

2009-03-07 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi, I have three files in a simple testcase, and when I run $ main.py callee.options This comes back with a Traceback pointing out the following error: File callee.options, line 5, in __init__ Foo.__init__(self, value) NameError: global name 'Foo' is not defined The three files are:

Re: Help cleaning up some code

2009-03-07 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Martin P. Hellwig wrote: cut def query_parser(QUERY, USER, STACK_SIZE): indexes = ['ni','adid','rundateid','rundate','city','state','status'] empty = 'None' stack = [] query_result = self.con.execute(QUERY,(USER,STACK_SIZE)).fetchall() ni = indexes[0] for row in

Re: Help cleaning up some code

2009-03-07 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Martin P. Hellwig wrote: while I am at it :-) if ignore == False: is probably cleaner when written if not ignore: -- mph -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Import, Inheritance, Scoping -- I'm doing something wrong with one of these

2009-03-07 Thread Peter Otten
Elijah Newren wrote: Hi, I have three files in a simple testcase, and when I run $ main.py callee.options This comes back with a Traceback pointing out the following error: File callee.options, line 5, in __init__ Foo.__init__(self, value) NameError: global name 'Foo' is not

Re: Can Python do shopping cart?

2009-03-07 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Muddy Coder wrote: Hi Folks, I know PHP can do shopping cart, such as Zen Cart. I wonder can Python do such a thing? Thanks! No, python cannot do that. I also doubt there are many other computer languages, much less PHP that can do that. You or somebody else has to write the code - but of

Re: create boolean

2009-03-07 Thread Scott David Daniels
Lie Ryan wrote: Fencer wrote: The literal translation of that would be: if n is not None and n != []: b = True else: b = False it is a bit verbose, so one might want to find something shorter b = True if n is not None and n != [] else False I always feel if and in-line if to be easier

Re: Should I use stackless python or threads?

2009-03-07 Thread John Nagle
Minesh Patel wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@divmod.com wrote: On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:50:51 -0800, Minesh Patel min...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to figure out the best approach to solve this problem: I want to poll various directories(can be run in the

should i move on to python3

2009-03-07 Thread Wensui Liu
i started learning python with earlier version and am happy with it and all related packages, such as scipy, pywin, and so on. right now, i am wondering if i should move to python3. if i do, will all packages working on earlier version still work in python3? this is my major concern. my another

Re: create boolean

2009-03-07 Thread Andre Engels
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: Putting in the second comparison in makes the code match the stated requirement.  Otherwise you have to start making assumptions about what n might be besides None or the empty list. But the stated requirement already

Re: Eclipse And PyDev

2009-03-07 Thread Steve Phillips
Thanks. I noticed that when I was on my windows box at work and I would check it and click apply then ok and when I go back to those prefs and it isn't checked. I did that a few times. I will try it on my Linux box tomorrow at home and see if I have the same results. Thanks again Steve On

RELEASED Python 3.1 alpha 1

2009-03-07 Thread Benjamin Peterson
On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I'm happy to announce the first alpha release of Python 3.1. Python 3.1 focuses on the stabilization and optimization of features and changes Python 3.0 introduced. The new I/O system has been rewritten in C for speed. Other

Re: Should I use stackless python or threads?

2009-03-07 Thread MRAB
John Nagle wrote: Minesh Patel wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@divmod.com wrote: On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:50:51 -0800, Minesh Patel min...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to figure out the best approach to solve this problem: I want to poll various

Re: Should I use stackless python or threads?

2009-03-07 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
John Nagle schrieb: Minesh Patel wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@divmod.com wrote: On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:50:51 -0800, Minesh Patel min...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to figure out the best approach to solve this problem: I want to poll various

Re: should i move on to python3

2009-03-07 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Wensui Liu wrote: i started learning python with earlier version and am happy with it and all related packages, such as scipy, pywin, and so on. right now, i am wondering if i should move to python3. if i do, will all packages working on earlier version still work in python3? this is my major

Re: Translating pysnmp oids to human readable strings

2009-03-07 Thread rdmurray
SpamMePlease PleasePlease spankthes...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Shantanu Joshi weemadart...@gmail.com wrote: SpamMePlease PleasePlease spankthes...@googlemail.com writes: I actually tried to load the new file with following code: print

Re: Import, Inheritance, Scoping -- I'm doing something wrong with one of these

2009-03-07 Thread Elijah Newren
Hi, For some reason, Peter Otten's response is not showing up in my inbox, but did show up in the mailing list archives (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2009-March/703850.html). So I'll respond to my own email, quote him, and respond that way. On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Elijah

Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.1 alpha 1

2009-03-07 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2009/3/7 Gerard Flanagan grflana...@gmail.com: Benjamin Peterson wrote: On the release page, the bzip link says '3.0' not '3.1'. That should be fixed now. See PEP 375 for release schedule details:     http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0361/ That URL is actually supposed to be

Re: RichCompare and RichCompareBool

2009-03-07 Thread Aaron Brady
On Mar 3, 12:42 am, Aaron Brady castiro...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 2, 9:24 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: Gabriel Genellina wrote: En Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:54:09 -0200, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu escribió: Aaron Brady wrote: Hi,  In the source for 3.0.1,

Re: Translating pysnmp oids to human readable strings

2009-03-07 Thread SpamMePlease PleasePlease
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 8:33 PM, rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote: SpamMePlease PleasePlease spankthes...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Shantanu Joshi weemadart...@gmail.com wrote: SpamMePlease PleasePlease spankthes...@googlemail.com writes: I actually tried to load

strings for beginers

2009-03-07 Thread Sapote
I am attempting to modify a python program (Discspan) that I downloaded from sourceforge. I know nothing of Python and little of programming. The program will back ups large numbers of files to to multiple DVDs. The burning routine was rather primitive I have modified the burn burn_cmd to

Re: should i move on to python3

2009-03-07 Thread R. David Murray
Martin P. Hellwig x...@xs4all.nl wrote: Wensui Liu wrote: i started learning python with earlier version and am happy with it and all related packages, such as scipy, pywin, and so on. right now, i am wondering if i should move to python3. if i do, will all packages working on earlier

Re: Import, Inheritance, Scoping -- I'm doing something wrong with one of these

2009-03-07 Thread Peter Otten
Elijah Newren wrote: Hi, For some reason, Peter Otten's response is not showing up in my inbox, but did show up in the mailing list archives (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2009-March/703850.html). So I'll respond to my own email, quote him, and respond that way. On Sat,

Re: Help cleaning up some code

2009-03-07 Thread Scott David Daniels
odeits wrote: I am looking to clean up this code... any help is much appreciated. Note: It works just fine, I just think it could be done cleaner. The result is a stack of dictionaries. the query returns up to STACK_SIZE ads for a user. The check which i think is very ugly is putting another

Re: should i move on to python3

2009-03-07 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
R. David Murray wrote: cut Comparing Python releases to Windows releases is...disturbing :) That was why I was very carefully in this example for choosing 2000 :-) -- mph -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [Python-Dev] RELEASED Python 3.1 alpha 1

2009-03-07 Thread Raymond Hettinger
[Benjamin Peterson] On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I'm happy to announce the first alpha release of Python 3.1. Thanks for the good work. Raymond -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: strings for beginers

2009-03-07 Thread Tim Wintle
On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 12:53 -0800, Sapote wrote: I have an incrementing variable disc_num that I could insert in the line below to create discspanisoX.iso where X is incrementing... burn_cmd = mkisofs -udf -o /home/donkey/discspaniso.iso -graft- points --path-list %s %(temp_list)

Re: strings for beginers

2009-03-07 Thread Tim Wintle
On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 21:25 +, Tim Wintle wrote: burn_cmd = mkisofs -udf -o /home/donkey/discspaniso%d.iso -graft-points --path-list %s %(x,temp_list) obviously I meant to say burn_cmd = mkisofs -udf -o /home/donkey/discspaniso% d.iso-graft-points --path-list %s %(disc_num,temp_list)

Themed TK (tk Tile) at last?!

2009-03-07 Thread Python Nutter
Looks like we finally get tkinter GUI based programs according to Issue# 2983 in Python 3.1a so our programs don't look like something out of early 1980's and can be themed to more closely match the underlying Operating Systems widget set! This is a big deal in that while tkinter came with (just

Re: Email Program

2009-03-07 Thread Ville M. Vainio
J wrote: Is it possible to make a GUI email program in Python that stores emails, composes, ect? Here's one with less than 600 lines: http://code.google.com/p/pyqtimap/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Themed TK (tk Tile) at last?!

2009-03-07 Thread cgoldberg
This is a big deal in that while tkinter came with (just about) every Python the desire to use wxWidgets or Qt etc was high because tkinter widgets just look so horrid. I liked Tk a lot, but also moved to wx because of Tk's LF. Tk is great for simple tool interfaces. Great news. -Corey --

RE: Parsing/Crawler Questions - solution

2009-03-07 Thread bruce
and this solution will somehow allow a user to create a web parsing/scraping app for parising links, and javascript from a web page? -Original Message- From: python-list-bounces+bedouglas=earthlink@python.org [mailto:python-list-bounces+bedouglas=earthlink@python.org]on

Re: Themed TK (tk Tile) at last?!

2009-03-07 Thread Benjamin Peterson
Python Nutter pythonnutter at gmail.com writes: The Python 3.1a web page still had what's new in Python 2.7 on the web page so does this also enter the Python 2.x branch? I don't know yet. But it so I might have a push to move off of 2.5.4 finally for the so simple GUi based apps I have.

Re: Chandler, Python, speed

2009-03-07 Thread Ville M. Vainio
Alan G Isaac wrote: 3. Chandler is not really an email client. So specifically, which of its functionalities is it slow, and what evidence if any is there that Python is causing this? I remember reading somewhere that the cause of slowness is/was architectural - perhaps it was that chandler

speeding up reading files (possibly with cython)

2009-03-07 Thread per
hi all, i have a program that essentially loops through a textfile file thats about 800 MB in size containing tab separated data... my program parses this file and stores its fields in a dictionary of lists. for line in file: split_values = line.strip().split('\t') # do stuff with

Re: RELEASED Python 3.1 alpha 1

2009-03-07 Thread Scott David Daniels
Benjamin Peterson wrote: On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I'm happy to announce the first alpha release of Python 3.1. Congratulations on the release. I know 3.0 didn't have installers built for the alphas, will that be the case for 3.1? --Scott David Daniels

Re: should i move on to python3

2009-03-07 Thread Python Nutter
Maybe if everyone shares their own thinking for their own situations it may help. I know the 2.x branch rather well, and cut my teeth on it. My work involves x509 cryptographic materials and I cut my own binaries and then wrap them in python to extend and enhance or build a lot of automation

Ban Xah Lee

2009-03-07 Thread Xah Lee
Of interest: • Why Can't You Be Normal? http://xahlee.org/Netiquette_dir/why_cant_you_be_normal.html • Ban Xah Lee http://xahlee.org/Netiquette_dir/ban_Xah_Lee.html I consider this post relevant because i've been perennially gossiped about in comp.lang.* groups today and in the past 5 or 10

Re: RELEASED Python 3.1 alpha 1

2009-03-07 Thread Carl Banks
On Mar 7, 10:53 am, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I'm happy to announce the first alpha release of Python 3.1. Python 3.1 focuses on the stabilization and optimization of features and changes Python 3.0

Re: speeding up reading files (possibly with cython)

2009-03-07 Thread skip
about 800 MB in size containing tab separated data... my program parses this file and stores its fields in a dictionary of lists. ... currently, this is very slow in python, even if all i do is break up each line using split() and store its values in a dictionary,

Re: should i move on to python3

2009-03-07 Thread Terry Reedy
Python Nutter wrote: silently troll python submitters and got the feeling 3.1 was what 3.0 was supposed to be ;-) I would say that it will be what the developers wish 3.0 had been. Part of the problem was that not enough people downloaded and tested the 3.0 betas to discover certain

Re: speeding up reading files (possibly with cython)

2009-03-07 Thread skip
me reader = csv.reader(open(fname, rb)) me for row in reader: me ... duh... How about reader = csv.reader(open(fname, rb), delimiter='\t') for row in reader: ... S -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: can't print the exception cause/context in Python3.0?

2009-03-07 Thread BigHand
On 3月7日, 下午11时21分, Gabriel Genellina gagsl-...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: En Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:46:08 -0200, BigHand hewei...@gmail.com escribió: Here is copy from my IDLE of python 3.0 traceback.print_tb(exc_tb)   File pyshell#14, line 2, in module   File pyshell#6, line 2, in a   File

Re: pass bool values to the Python function in embedded python 3.0

2009-03-07 Thread BigHand
On 3月7日, 下午10时38分, Gabriel Genellina gagsl-...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: En Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:38:29 -0200, BigHand hewei...@gmail.com escribió: how do I pass True to the Python function in the C++ code? (I've already suggested using PyErr_Print/PyTraceback_Print instead) See the section

Re: Ban Xah Lee

2009-03-07 Thread Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Xah Lee wrote: Of interest: • Why Can't You Be Normal? http://xahlee.org/Netiquette_dir/why_cant_you_be_normal.html • Ban Xah Lee http://xahlee.org/Netiquette_dir/ban_Xah_Lee.html I consider this post relevant because i've been perennially gossiped about in comp.lang.* groups today and in

Re: /a is not /a ?

2009-03-07 Thread Robert Kern
On 2009-03-07 02:11, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 03:07 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 23:57 -0800, Paul Rubin wrote: alex23wuwe...@gmail.com writes: But _you_ only _just_ stated It does have some (generally small) performance ramifications as well and

Re: /a is not /a ?

2009-03-07 Thread Robert Kern
On 2009-03-07 08:14, Christian Heimes wrote: Steven D'Aprano wrote: Yes. Floating point NANs are required to compare unequal to all floats, including themselves. It's part of the IEEE standard. As far as I remember that's not correct. It's just the way C has interpreted the standard and

Re: speeding up reading files (possibly with cython)

2009-03-07 Thread Tim Chase
i have a program that essentially loops through a textfile file thats about 800 MB in size containing tab separated data... my program parses this file and stores its fields in a dictionary of lists. for line in file: split_values = line.strip().split('\t') # do stuff with split_values

Re: speeding up reading files (possibly with cython)

2009-03-07 Thread John Machin
On Mar 8, 9:06 am, per perfr...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, i have a program that essentially loops through a textfile file thats about 800 MB in size containing tab separated data... my program parses this file and stores its fields in a dictionary of lists. for line in file:   split_values

Candidate for a new itertool

2009-03-07 Thread Raymond Hettinger
The existing groupby() itertool works great when every element in a group has the same key, but it is not so handy when groups are determined by boundary conditions. For edge-triggered events, we need to convert a boundary-event predicate to groupby-style key function. The code below

Re: speeding up reading files (possibly with cython)

2009-03-07 Thread John Machin
On Mar 8, 9:06 am, per perfr...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, i have a program that essentially loops through a textfile file thats about 800 MB in size containing tab separated data... my program parses this file and stores its fields in a dictionary of lists. for line in file:   split_values

Re: RELEASED Python 3.1 alpha 1

2009-03-07 Thread Benjamin Peterson
Scott David Daniels Scott.Daniels at Acm.Org writes: Benjamin Peterson wrote: On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I'm happy to announce the first alpha release of Python 3.1. Congratulations on the release. I know 3.0 didn't have installers built for the

Parsing unicode (devanagari) text with xml.dom.minidom

2009-03-07 Thread rparimi
Hello, I am trying to process an xml file that contains unicode characters (see http://vyakarnam.wordpress.com/). Wordpress allows exporting the entire content of the website into an xml file. Using xml.dom.minidom, I wrote a few lines of python code to parse out the xml file, but am stuck with

Re: should i move on to python3

2009-03-07 Thread Mensanator
On Mar 7, 5:09�pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: Python Nutter wrote: silently troll python submitters and got the feeling 3.1 was what 3.0 was supposed to be ;-) I would say that it will be what the developers wish 3.0 had been. �Part of the problem was that not enough people

Re: RELEASED Python 3.1 alpha 1

2009-03-07 Thread bearophileHUGS
Are the computed gotos used in the future pre-compiled Windows binary (of V.3.1) too? Is such optimization going to be backported to the 2.x series too, like Python 2.7? Bye and thank you for your work, bearophile -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Themed TK (tk Tile) at last?!

2009-03-07 Thread Tim Wintle
On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 08:37 +1100, Python Nutter wrote: Looks like we finally get tkinter GUI based programs according to Issue# 2983 in Python 3.1a so our programs don't look like something out of early 1980's and can be themed to more closely match the underlying Operating Systems widget

Re: Indentations and future evolution of languages

2009-03-07 Thread Tim Roberts
Tim Rowe digi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think the article is right that it's silly to have some expression/statement groupings indentation based and some grouped by enclosing tokens -- provided it's done right. The OCAML-based language F# accepts OCAML enclosing tokens, but if you mark the

Re: RELEASED Python 3.1 alpha 1

2009-03-07 Thread Benjamin Peterson
bearophileHUGS at lycos.com writes: Are the computed gotos used in the future pre-compiled Windows binary (of V.3.1) too? I doubt it. I don't think they've even been built yet. Martin will now, though. Is such optimization going to be backported to the 2.x series too, like Python 2.7?

Re: should i move on to python3

2009-03-07 Thread Tim Wintle
On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 09:15 +1100, Python Nutter wrote: Maybe if everyone shares their own thinking for their own situations it may help. Well, at work I do a mixture of things, some of which require python 2.3 (I know...), and some of which I can write to whatever version I want. I generally

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