On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 4:59 AM Travis Griggs wrote:
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> I guess this is kind of like mocking for testing. I have a simple module
> that's imported in a number of other spots in my program. There's a condition
> in the OS/filesystem where I'd like to import a polymorphically compatible
>
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 11:53 PM Fady Victor Mikhael Abdelmalk
wrote:
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>
> Dear Python Team,
>
> I got the below issue when trying to install python on my user. Kindly assist
> to know how can I solved.
>
>
> WARNING: Retrying (Retry(total=4, connect=None, read=None, redirect=None,
>
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 3:58 AM Mostowski Collapse wrote:
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> I read the following, and you should also know:
>
> > Python's [] is implemented as an array, not a linked list.
> > Although resizing is O(n), appending to it is amortized O(1),
> > because resizes happen very rarely.
>
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 3:51 AM Mostowski Collapse wrote:
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> sympy also builds a language on top of Python.
> pandas also builds a language on top of Python.
>
> Is there some pope that says this wouldn't be
> allowed, I dont think so, otherwise sympy, pandas, etc..
>
> wouldn't exist. I dont
On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 9:50 PM Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> > Let Python be Python, don't try to build your own language on top of
> > it.
>
> Well, he's writing a Prolog interpreter, so building his own language on
> top of Python is sort of the point. I think a better way to put it is
> "Don't try
ponding [*] node from the list.
> >
> > You can also attach callbacks to weakref objects that are triggered
> > when the referenced object dies. You might be able to make use of
> > that to remove items from the trail instead of the periodic scanning.
>
> Question
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:46 AM Mostowski Collapse wrote:
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> Yeah, it seems weak references could indeed spare
> me mark_term(). But then I am stil left with sweep_trail().
> I did not yet measure what takes more time mark_term()
> or sweep_trail(). The displayed "gc" is the sum of both.
>
>
On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 7:17 AM Mostowski Collapse wrote:
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> About Exceptions: Thats just building ISO core
> standard Prolog error terms.
>
> About Garbage Collection: Thats just Prolog
> garbage collection, which does shrink some
> single linked lists, which ordinary
> programmig language GC
On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 3:20 AM Mostowski Collapse wrote:
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> Compound is not used for boxing. Integers and floats
> are represented directly. Also integers are not mapped to
> floats. But maybe compound could be a little flattened,
>
"Boxing" in this case isn't about ints and floats, since
On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 7:59 AM Mostowski Collapse wrote:
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> BTW: I could already make it faster, by not repeatedly
> accessing .arg anymore. It went down from ca.:
>
> 171'000 ms
>
> To this here:
>
> 140'000 ms
>
> But only in the cold run. In the warm run it went back
> to 171'000 ms.
On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 5:15 AM Mostowski Collapse wrote:
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> If you find a "wonky" spot, I can replace it by "non-wonky"
> code. I noticed some differences between Python Dicts
> and JavaScript objects. Python tends to throw more exceptions.
>
> So in Python I now do the following:
>
>peek =
On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 3:17 AM Mostowski Collapse wrote:
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> I really wonder why my Python implementation
> is a factor 40 slower than my JavaScript implementation.
> Structurally its the same code.
>
Very hard to know. Your code is detailed and complicated. Do they
produce identical results?
On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 1:07 AM Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> If you have any "decimals" (i.e decimal digits to the right of your
> decimal point) then the input values won't be exactly representable and
> the nearest representation will use all available bits, thus losing some
> precision with most
On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 3:26 PM dn via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 31/08/2021 01.50, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 11:13 PM David Raymond
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> def how_many_times():
> >>> x, y = 0, 1
> >>>
On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 1:26 PM DFS wrote:
>
> On 9/3/2021 9:50 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 11:37 PM DFS wrote:
> >>
> >> On 9/3/2021 1:47 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 3:42 PM DFS wrote:
> >&g
On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 12:58 PM Greg Ewing wrote:
>
> On 5/09/21 2:42 am, Hope Rouselle wrote:
> > Here's what I did on this case. The REPL is telling me that
> >
> >7.23 = 2035064081618043/281474976710656
>
> If 7.23 were exactly representable, you would have got
> 723/1000.
>
> Contrast
On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 12:55 PM Hope Rouselle wrote:
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> Julio Di Egidio writes:
>
> > On Thursday, 2 September 2021 at 16:51:24 UTC+2, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
> >> Am 02.09.21 um 16:49 schrieb Julio Di Egidio:
> >> > On Thursday, 2 September 2021 at 16:41:38 UTC+2, Peter Pearson wrote:
> >>
On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 12:44 PM Hope Rouselle wrote:
>
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
> > On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 4:29 AM Hope Rouselle wrote:
> >>
> >> Just sharing a case of floating-point numbers. Nothing needed to be
> >> solved or to be f
On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 12:39 PM Alan Gauld via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 03/09/2021 18:37, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> >>>> Without DST the schools opened in the dark so all the kids
> >>>> had to travel to school in the dark and the number of
> >>
On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 1:04 PM Hope Rouselle wrote:
> The same question in other words --- what's a trivial way for the REPL
> to show me such cycles occur?
>
> >> 7.23.as_integer_ratio()
> >>> (2035064081618043, 281474976710656)
>
> Here's what I did on this case. The REPL is telling me
On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 12:50 PM Hope Rouselle wrote:
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> Christian Gollwitzer writes:
>
> > Am 02.09.21 um 15:51 schrieb Hope Rouselle:
> >> Just sharing a case of floating-point numbers. Nothing needed to be
> >> solved or to be figured out. Just bringing up conversation.
> >> (*) An
On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 12:48 PM Hope Rouselle wrote:
>
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
> > On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 4:58 AM Hope Rouselle wrote:
> >>
> >> Hope Rouselle writes:
> >>
> >> > Just sharing a case of floating-point numbers. Nothing
On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 3:33 AM Alan Gauld via Python-list
wrote:
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> On 02/09/2021 19:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> >> Without DST the schools opened in the dark so all the kids
> >> had to travel to school in the dark and the number of
> >> traffic a
On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 12:08 AM o1bigtenor wrote:
> Hmmm - - - ZI would suggest that you haven't looked into
> taxation yet!
> In taxation you get a rational number that MUST be multiplied by
> the amount in currency.
(You can, of course, multiply a currency amount by any scalar. Just
not by
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 11:37 PM DFS wrote:
>
> On 9/3/2021 1:47 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 3:42 PM DFS wrote:
> >>
> >> Having a problem with the DB2 connector
> >>
> >> test.py
> >> --
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 10:42 PM jak wrote:
>
> Il 03/09/2021 09:07, Julio Di Egidio ha scritto:
> > On Friday, 3 September 2021 at 01:22:28 UTC+2, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 8:15 AM Dennis Lee Bieber
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Fri,
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 3:42 PM DFS wrote:
>
> Having a problem with the DB2 connector
>
> test.py
>
> import ibm_db_dbi
> connectstring =
> 'DATABASE=xxx;HOSTNAME=localhost;PORT=5;PROTOCOL=TCPIP;UID=xxx;PWD=xxx;'
> conn =
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 8:15 AM Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
>
> On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 04:43:02 +1000, Chris Angelico
> declaimed the following:
>
> >
> >The naive summation algorithm used by sum() is compatible with a
> >variety of different data types - even lists, althou
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 8:01 AM Alan Gauld via Python-list
wrote:
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> On 02/09/2021 19:28, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> >> Except for the places that don't follow the IANA scheme and/or
> >> dynamically change their time settings on a whim. To be complete
> >&
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 4:40 AM Alan Gauld via Python-list
wrote:
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> On 31/08/2021 23:31, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> > Ah, good to know. I think that actually makes a lot of sense; in the
> > US, they try to let everyone pretend that the rest of the world
> > doesn
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 4:26 AM Alan Gauld via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 31/08/2021 22:32, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> > If we could abolish DST world-wide, life would be far easier. All the
> > rest of it would be easy enough to handle.
> We tried that in the UK for
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 4:58 AM Hope Rouselle wrote:
>
> Hope Rouselle writes:
>
> > Just sharing a case of floating-point numbers. Nothing needed to be
> > solved or to be figured out. Just bringing up conversation.
> >
> > (*) An introduction to me
> >
> > I don't understand floating-point
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 4:51 AM Hope Rouselle wrote:
>
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
> > On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 11:13 PM David Raymond
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > def how_many_times():
> >> > x, y = 0, 1
> >> > c = 0
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 4:29 AM Hope Rouselle wrote:
>
> Just sharing a case of floating-point numbers. Nothing needed to be
> solved or to be figured out. Just bringing up conversation.
>
> (*) An introduction to me
>
> I don't understand floating-point numbers from the inside out, but I do
>
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 4:33 AM Hope Rouselle wrote:
> Yeah. Here's a little context. I came across this by processing a list
> of exercises. (I'm teaching a course --- you know that by now, I
> guess.) So the first thing I observed was the equal volume of work
> dedicated to while loops and
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 4:22 AM Alan Gauld via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 31/08/2021 22:13, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> > But ultimately, it all just means that timezones are too hard for
> > humans to handle, and we MUST handle them using IANA's database. It is
> &g
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 4:18 AM Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
>
> On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 16:53:14 -0500, 2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com
> declaimed the following:
>
> >On 2021-09-01 at 07:32:43 +1000,
> >Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> If we could abolish DST world-wi
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:20 AM dn via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 01/09/2021 09.13, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 6:38 AM dn via Python-list
> > wrote:
> >>> Yeah. I do recommend making good use of the IANA tzinfo database
> >>>
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 9:03 AM Barry wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 31 Aug 2021, at 16:53, jak wrote:
> >
> > Il 31/08/2021 03:05, Python ha scritto:
> >> Hari wrote:
> >>> i was download ur python software but it is like boring user interface for
> >>> me like young student to learn ,can u have any
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 8:22 AM MRAB wrote:
>
> [snip]
> In the EU, DST in the member states changes at the same time. It's not
> like the US where it ripples across the timezones, so the differences
> vary during the change. It all happens in one go.
>
Ah, good to know. I think that actually
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 7:54 AM <2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com> wrote:
>
> On 2021-09-01 at 07:32:43 +1000,
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 7:17 AM <2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com> wrote:
>
> > > What about P
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 7:17 AM <2qdxy4rzwzuui...@potatochowder.com> wrote:
>
> On 2021-09-01 at 08:36:55 +1200,
> dn via Python-list wrote:
>
> > ... there is less consideration about working-out what time it is in
> > Pune cf Kolkata, than between (say) San Francisco and Denver -
> > although
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 6:38 AM dn via Python-list
wrote:
> > Yeah. I do recommend making good use of the IANA tzinfo database
> > though (especially since Python 3.9 made that a bit easier to access),
> > as it's usually easier to get people to tell you what city/state
> > they're in, rather than
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 1:55 AM dcs3spp via Python-list
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I wonder if anyone can help
>
> I am struggling to understand the representation of timedelta when used in
> conjunction with astimezone.
>
> Given the code below, in a python interactive interpreter, I am trying to
>
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 1:59 AM hongy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I want to know whether python can be used to create real-time interactive
> TUI, as hstr [1] does.
>
> [1] https://github.com/dvorka/hstr
>
Yes.
ChrisA
--
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 8:55 PM MRAB wrote:
>
> On 2021-08-31 02:16, dn via Python-list wrote:
> > On 31/08/2021 11.07, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> >> On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 19:49:19 -0700 (PDT), "hongy...@gmail.com"
> >> declaimed the following:
> > ...
> >
> >> Might have helped to mention
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 12:28 AM Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote:
>
> On 30/08/2021 15:50, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> > def how_many_times():
> > return next((count, rolls) for count, rolls in
> > enumerate(iter(roll, None)) if len(Counter(rolls)) == 1
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 11:13 PM David Raymond wrote:
>
> > def how_many_times():
> > x, y = 0, 1
> > c = 0
> > while x != y:
> > c = c + 1
> > x, y = roll()
> > return c, (x, y)
>
> Since I haven't seen it used in answers yet, here's another option using our
> new walrus
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 9:53 AM dn via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 29/08/2021 22.24, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 8:14 PM dn via Python-list
> > wrote:
> >> Efficiency:
> >> - wonder how max( d ) == min( d ) compares for speed
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 5:49 AM Mehrzad Saremi wrote:
>
> No, a class ("the class that I'm lexically inside") cannot be accessed from
> outside of the class. This is why I'm planning to offer it as a core
> feature because only the parser would know. There's apparently no elegant
> solution if
On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 8:14 PM dn via Python-list
wrote:
> Efficiency:
> - wonder how max( d ) == min( d ) compares for speed with the set() type
> constructor?
That may or may not be an improvement.
> - alternately len( d ) < 2?
> - or len( d ) - 1 coerced to a boolean by the if?
Neither of
On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 7:40 AM Mehrzad Saremi wrote:
>
> Python currently uses name mangling for double-underscore attributes. Name
> mangling is not an ideal method to avoid name conflicting. There are
> various normal programming patterns that can simply cause name conflicting
> in
On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 7:40 AM Hope Rouselle wrote:
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> I'd like get a statistic of how often each loop is used in practice.
>
> I was trying to take a look at the Python's standard libraries --- those
> included in a standard installation of Python 3.9.6, say --- to see
> which loops are more
On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 7:37 AM Hope Rouselle wrote:
>
> How should I write this? I'd like to roll two six-sided dice until I
> get the same number on both. I'd like to get the number of times I
> tried. Here's a primitive I'm using:
>
> --8<---cut
On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 12:48 AM Jon Ribbens via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 2021-08-25, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 12:16 AM Jon Ribbens via Python-list
> > wrote:
> >> There are so many trusted CAs these days that the chances of them all
> &
On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 12:16 AM Jon Ribbens via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 2021-08-25, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 5:20 PM Barry Scott wrote:
> >> Only if this threat model matters to you or your organisation.
> >> Personal its low d
On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 5:20 PM Barry Scott wrote:
>
> Only if this threat model matters to you or your organisation.
> Personal its low down of the threats I watch out for.
>
> The on-line world and the real-world are the same here.
>
> If a business changes hands then do you trust the new
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 4:31 AM Mohsen Owzar wrote:
> How can I get all the packages available in 3.8 version also available for
> 3.10 version without any new installation in 3.10 for each all already
> existing packages?
>
You can't. With compiled binaries, especially, it's important to
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:30 PM Barry Scott wrote:
>
>
>
> On 22 Aug 2021, at 10:37, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> When it comes to security, one thing I'm very curious about is why we
> don't have any sort of certificate renewal verification. My browser
> could retain the
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 12:26 AM Dan Stromberg wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 7:14 AM Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 12:08 AM Dan Stromberg wrote:
>> >
>> > In 'from foo import bar':
>> >
>> > With the ast modu
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 12:08 AM Dan Stromberg wrote:
>
> In 'from foo import bar':
>
> With the ast module, I see how to get bar, but I do not yet see how to get
> the foo.
>
> There are clearly ast.Import and ast.ImportFrom, but I do not see the foo
> part in ast.ImportFrom.
>
> ?
>>> import
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 6:45 PM Peter J. Holzer wrote:
>
> On 2021-08-22 05:04:43 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 4:55 AM Martin Di Paola
> > wrote:
> > > HTTPS ensures encryption so the content, including the Basic Auth
> > > user
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 4:55 AM Martin Di Paola
wrote:
>
> While it is correct to say that Basic Auth without HTTPS is absolutely
> insecure, using Basic Auth *and* HTTPS is not secure either.
>
> Well, the definition of "secure" depends of your threat model.
Yes. Which makes statements like
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 4:37 AM Hope Rouselle wrote:
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> Greg Ewing writes:
>
> > On 21/08/21 1:36 pm, Hope Rouselle wrote:
> >> I wish I could restrict their syntax too, though, but I fear that's
> >> not possible. For instance, it would be very useful if I could
> >> remove loops.
> >
> >
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 7:15 AM Barry wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 17 Aug 2021, at 19:25, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 4:16 AM Barry Scott wrote:
> >> Oh and if you have the freedom avoid Basic Auth as its not secure at all.
> >
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 4:16 AM Barry Scott wrote:
> Oh and if you have the freedom avoid Basic Auth as its not secure at all.
>
That's usually irrelevant, since the alternative is most likely to be
form fill-out, which is exactly as secure. If you're serving over
HTTPS, the page is encrypted,
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 4:10 AM Barry Scott wrote:
>
> def allImports( self, module_name ):
> for line in f:
> words = line.strip().split()
> if words[0:1] == ['import']:
> all_imports.append( words[1] )
>
This will work for a
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 3:04 AM Robin Becker wrote:
>
> While porting an ap from python2.7 to python3 I see this
>
> base64string = base64.b64encode('%s:%s' % (wsemail, wspassword))
> request.add_header("Authorization", "Basic %s" % base64string)
>
> in python3.x I find this works
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 1:50 PM Eryk Sun wrote:
>
> On 8/16/21, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 11:44 AM Eryk Sun wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, the PC speaker beep does not get used in Windows 7+. The beep
> >> device object is retained
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 11:44 AM Eryk Sun wrote:
>
> On 8/16/21, Roel Schroeven wrote:
> >
> > We're not necessarily talking about the PC speaker here: (almost) all
> > computers these days have sound cards (mostly integrated on the
> > motherboard) that are much more capable than those one-bit
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 4:02 AM Greg Ewing wrote:
> The second best way would be to not use import_module, but to
> exec() the student's code. That way you don't create an entry in
> sys.modules and don't have to worry about somehow unloading the
> module.
I would agree with this. If you need to
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 3:51 AM Hope Rouselle wrote:
>
> Chris Angelico writes:
> >> Wow, I kinda feel the same as you here. I think this justifies perhaps
> >> using a hardware solution. (Crazy idea?! Lol.)
> >
> > uhhh Yes. Very crazy idea.
On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 1:02 PM John O'Hagan wrote:
>
> > On 2021-08-13 17:17, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > > Is it really? In my experience, no human ear can distinguish 277Hz
> > > from 277.1826Hz when it's played on a one-bit PC speaker, which the
> > > Beep
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 2:11 AM Terry Reedy wrote:
>
> On 8/13/2021 6:53 AM, Umang Goswami wrote:
> > Hi There, Hope you find this mail in good health.
> >
> > I am Umang Goswami, a Python developer and student working on a huge
> > project for automation of music instruments. I am producing the
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 5:03 AM Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> On 2021-08-12, Hope Rouselle wrote:
>
> >> OS/2 had all kinds of amazing features (for its time). [...] Plus,
> >> it had this fancy concept of "extended attributes"; on older
> >> systems (like MS-DOS's "FAT" family), a file might be
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 2:15 AM Hope Rouselle wrote:
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> Chris Angelico writes:
>
> > History lesson!
> >
> > Once upon a time, IBM and Microsoft looked at what Intel was
> > producing, and went, hey, we need to design an operating system that
> > c
On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 6:59 PM Stephen Tucker wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I thought I'd share the following piece of code that I have recently written
> (a) to check that what I have done is reasonable - even optimum,
> (b) to inform others who might be wanting to do similar things, and
> (c) to invite
On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 9:23 AM Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
>
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 06:15:28 +1000, Chris Angelico
> declaimed the following:
>
>
> >The default command interpreter and shell on OS/2 was fairly primitive
> >by today's standards, and was highly com
On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 7:25 AM Rob Cliffe via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 11/08/2021 19:10, MRAB wrote:
> > On 2021-08-11 18:10, Wolfram Hinderer via Python-list wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 11.08.2021 um 05:22 schrieb Terry Reedy:
> >>> Python is a little looser about whitespace than one might expect
On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 5:00 AM Hope Rouselle wrote:
>
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
> > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 4:18 AM Hope Rouselle
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Chris Angelico writes:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> >> not di
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 4:18 AM Hope Rouselle wrote:
>
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
> [...]
>
> >> not disagreeing... and yeah I could have thought deeper about the
> >> answer, but I still think "notthing has been OOP" -> "yes it has, they
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 4:18 AM Hope Rouselle wrote:
>
> I totally agree with you but I didn't know that even numbers were like
> that in Python. In fact, I still don't quite believe it...
>
> >>> 2.__add__(3)
> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
Yeah, that's because "2." looks like the beginning of a
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 4:14 AM Hope Rouselle wrote:
>
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
> > On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 7:25 AM Hope Rouselle
> > wrote:
> >> I came up with the following question. Using strings of length 5
> >> (always), write a proced
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 1:41 PM Mats Wichmann wrote:
>
>
> On 8/9/21 6:34 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> > If you want to highlight the OOP nature of Python, rather than looking
> > at magic methods, I'd first look at polymorphism. You can add a pair
> > of integers
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 8:19 AM Mats Wichmann wrote:
> Even if you do
>
> x = 2 + 3
>
> you're actually creating an integer object with a value of 2, and
> calling its add method to add the integer object with the value of 3 to
> it. The syntax hides it, but in a way it's just convenience that it
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 7:25 AM Hope Rouselle wrote:
> I came up with the following question. Using strings of length 5
> (always), write a procedure histogram(s) that consumes a string and
> produces a dictionary whose keys are each substrings (of the string) of
> length 1 and their
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 7:24 AM Jack Brandom wrote:
>
> Greg Ewing writes:
>
> > On 6/08/21 12:00 pm, Jack Brandom wrote:
> >> It seems
> >> that I'd begin at position 3 (that's "k" which I save somewhere), then I
> >> subtract 1 from 3, getting 2 (that's "c", which I save somewhere), then
> >>
On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 5:22 AM Boris Dorestand wrote:
>
> Jach Feng writes:
>
> >> > s = "Jack Brandom"
> >> > s[3 : -13 : -1]
> >> >> 'kcaJ'
> >> >> I have no idea how to replace that -13 with a positive index. Is it
> >> >> possible at all?
> > That's not possible because a positive
On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 7:07 AM Sven R. Kunze wrote:
>
> It could be but I've seen them used somewhere else.
>
> I wouldn't bikeshed on this yet, as I haven't found a way to do this so
> far. Let's imagine the following parser:
>
> parser.add_argument('things',action='append')
>
On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 5:11 AM Charles Smith wrote:
>
> First off, thanks for the answer. I don't see the cached module as a problem
> here. If you provide arguments to a module, the goal is "most likely" to
> alter/parameterize the behavior of the first import. Now, I agree that
> behavior
On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 3:48 AM Charles Smith wrote:
>
> I have found myself wanting to import module and provide arguments to them.
> There's two main reason I could think of for this. First is to prevent a
> circular import, though most of circular imports can be prevented by changing
> the
On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 5:40 AM Terry Reedy wrote:
> Since the 'two ways' involve the new :=, I have no idea what 'two ways'
> and 'same result' you mean before :=.
>
I'm not sure, but I think that a lot of people read patch notes as if
they say "this is how everyone needs to do things now", and
On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 7:49 PM ast wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> Reading PEP572 about Python 3.9 assignment expressions,
> I discovered a subtle difference between any(a list)
> and any(a generator)
>
> see:
>
> >>> lines = ["azerty", "#qsdfgh", "wxcvbn"]
> >>> any((comment := line).startswith('#') for
On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 2:10 AM joseph pareti wrote:
>
> The following code fails as shown in the title:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *import subprocesscmd = 'ls -l
> /media/joepareti54/Elements/x/finance-2020/AI/Listen_attend_spell/VCTK-Corpus/wav48
> | awk "{print $9 }"'process = subprocess.Popen([cmd],
>
On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 1:05 AM Skip Montanaro wrote:
>
> I have a development branch in my fork of python/cpython, the
> register2 branch of https://github.com/smontanaro/cpython. As I am
> dealing with virtual machine internals I've found the changes to the
> virtual machine between 3.9 and
On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 9:52 AM Cameron Simpson wrote:
>
> On 24Jul2021 09:22, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 9:03 AM Cameron Simpson wrote:
> >> Rereading this, maybe I was unclear. This is for install directories
> >> like /opt/Python-3.w
On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 9:03 AM Cameron Simpson wrote:
>
> On 23Jul2021 19:51, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 7:48 PM Cameron Simpson wrote:
> >> Do the build and install as yourself. I usually do the install step by
> >> making the install di
On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 7:48 PM Cameron Simpson wrote:
> Do the build and install as yourself. I usually do the install step by
> making the install directory as root, then chowning it to me. Then you
> can do the install as you - this has the advantage the you're
> unprivileged and can't
On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 5:34 PM Albert-Jan Roskam
wrote:
>
> >>> [1] https://pypi.org/project/clize/
>
>
> I use and like docopt (https://github.com/docopt/docopt). Is clize a better
> choice?
>
Not necessarily. Both are good. Explore both, see which one makes more sense.
ChrisA
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On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 2:55 PM אורי wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a production server with Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (currently upgraded to
> Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS) and I use Python in virtualenv - currently Python
> 3.6.9. I'm using Django and I read that from Django 4.0, a minimal version
> of Python 3.8
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