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2024-01-02 Thread Ethan Furman via Python-list
On 12/29/23 05:02, Left Right via Python-list wrote: Wow. That place turned out to be the toxic pit I didn't expect. It's a shame that a public discussion of public goods was entrusted to a bunch of gatekeepers with no sense of responsibility for the thing they keep the keys to. Personal

[dead thread] Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2024-01-02 Thread Ethan Furman via Python-list
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Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2024-01-01 Thread Left Right via Python-list
> others do not and so your notion of what is "accepted" > is not universally shared. Why should I or anyone else care about what "others" think? The important question is whether what I do is right. And the answer is "yes". That's why there are rules in the first place instead of polling. > if

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-30 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 at 00:35, Left Right wrote: > > It's not for you to choose the way I communicate. There are accepted > boundaries, and I'm well within those boundaries. Anything beyond that > is not something I'm even interested in hearing your opinion on. You might not be interested in my

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-30 Thread Left Right via Python-list
> You are conflating several different groups of people. The PyPA are > the people who currently maintain the code for various > libraries/tools. That is very often not the same as the people who > originally wrote the code for the same libraries/tools or for > preceding ones. Neither group is the

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 at 22:38, Left Right via Python-list wrote: > > > Then your understanding is flat-out wrong. Encouraging participation > > by everyone DOES mean deleting what is unproductive, offensive, and > > likely to discourage participation. > > I haven't written anything unproductive or

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Left Right via Python-list
> Then your understanding is flat-out wrong. Encouraging participation > by everyone DOES mean deleting what is unproductive, offensive, and > likely to discourage participation. I haven't written anything unproductive or offensive. I offered constructive criticism with a detailed plan on how to

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 06:58, Left Right wrote: > My understanding is that "welcome and encourage participation by > everyone" is in stark contradiction to banning someone disagreeing > with you. Then your understanding is flat-out wrong. Encouraging participation by everyone DOES mean deleting

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Left Right via Python-list
Previously you wrote: > Here is the discussion referred to: https://discuss.python.org/t/what-is-install-paths-to-in-wheel-file/42005 This illustrates you had no idea what the discussion was about and now you write: > Oh trust me, I saw the discussion previously. Both cannot b

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 01:37, Left Right wrote: > > > Yeah, because you have the God-given RIGHT to be able to say anything > > you like, on anyone's web site, and nobody's allowed to delete > > anything you say! That's how it goes, right? > > I don't believe in god, and I don't believe he / she

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Left Right via Python-list
> Yeah, because you have the God-given RIGHT to be able to say anything > you like, on anyone's web site, and nobody's allowed to delete > anything you say! That's how it goes, right? I don't believe in god, and I don't believe he / she can give me rights. What I believe in is that Python is a

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 01:16, Left Right via Python-list wrote: > > That's not the discussion that was toxic. But the one that was -- > doesn't exist anymore since the forum owners deleted it. > > The part where the forum owners delete whatever they disagree with is > the toxic part. Yeah,

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Left Right via Python-list
ponsibility for the thing > > they keep the keys to. > > Here is the discussion referred to: > https://discuss.python.org/t/what-is-install-paths-to-in-wheel-file/42005 > > I don't see anything "toxic" in that discussion. You asked questions > and people took the time to

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Oscar Benjamin via Python-list
ing > they keep the keys to. Here is the discussion referred to: https://discuss.python.org/t/what-is-install-paths-to-in-wheel-file/42005 I don't see anything "toxic" in that discussion. You asked questions and people took the time to give clear answers. The basic answer to your questi

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-29 Thread Left Right via Python-list
Wow. That place turned out to be the toxic pit I didn't expect. It's a shame that a public discussion of public goods was entrusted to a bunch of gatekeepers with no sense of responsibility for the thing they keep the keys to. On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 9:49 PM Left Right wrote: > > Thanks. I

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-27 Thread Left Right via Python-list
Thanks. I tried asking there. On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 11:53 PM Barry wrote: > > > > On 24 Dec 2023, at 00:58, Left Right via Python-list > wrote: > > I'm trying to understand the contents of Wheel files > > > There are lots of packaging experts that hang out on > https://discuss.python.org/

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-24 Thread Barry via Python-list
> On 24 Dec 2023, at 00:58, Left Right via Python-list > wrote: > > I'm trying to understand the contents of Wheel files There are lots of packaging experts that hang out on https://discuss.python.org/ you are likely to get a response there if not here replies. Barry --

Re: What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-23 Thread Left Right via Python-list
Sorry, I found that this... documentation continues, but it doesn't make anything better. Here's what this PEP has to add (text in square brackets are my questions): If a package needs to find its files at runtime, it can request they be written to a specified file or files [does this mean a

What is Install-Paths-To in WHEEL file?

2023-12-23 Thread Left Right via Python-list
Hello list. I'm trying to understand the contents of Wheel files. I was reading https://peps.python.org/pep-0491/ specifically the paragraph that states: Install-Paths-To is a location relative to the archive that will be overwritten with the install-time paths of each category in the install