Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS build with GDAL 1.7.x - Ubuntu

2010-08-29 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Noli,

On Sun, 29. Aug 2010 at 12:00:15 +1000, Noli Sicad wrote:
 I still have problem opening spatialite database / files  in trunk
 version - Quantum GIS - 1.6.0-Trunk 'Trunk' (14162M).

Ok, let me repeat our earlier findings (with some additional info).

Creating and using SpatiaLite databases via the SpatiaLite provider (New
SpatiaLite Layer/Add SpatiaLite Layer) should work with any QGIS.

But to create SpatiaLite databases using the QgsVectorFileWriter class (Save As)
or use them via the OGR provider (Add Vector Layer) requires a QGIS linked to
GDAL 1.7 that in turn is linked with SpatiaLite 2.4.

The only public available Linux build I know that has that is the ubuntugis
build of QGIS 1.5 - because ubuntugis' GDAL 1.7 has SpatiaLite support.

The nightly debian builds are built against the GDAL the respective
distribution has.  Which is commonly earlier than GDAL 1.7 and therefore
doesn't include SpatiaLite support.

So unless you install a GDAL 1.7 from ubuntugis (or Debian experimental) and
use a QGIS build against it (QGIS 1.5 from ubuntugis or your own build), you
won't have SpatiaLite support in Save As and the OGR provider.  SQLite
support is probably there, but that's different from SpatiaLite.

Which version of SpatiaLite is in use in the SpatiaLite provider is determined
by whether or not the build is using the system's SpatiaLite or the qgis'
internal SpatiaLite.

The nightly trunk builds for Debian Squeeze and unstable and Ubuntu Lucid and
Maverick use the system's SpatiaLite, all others (read Debian Lenny) use
internal SpatiaLite, which currently is 2.4.0.  

When unstable and Maverick contain GDAL 1.7 the nightly builds with pick it up
automatically.  So eventually the problem with the nightly builds will solve
itself.

 Anybody using Ubuntu 10.04 and can open spatialite database and what
 versions of QGIS, spatialite, ogr2org, etc.

The tool is called ogr2ogr.   But you could even have multiple libaries and
therefore have a GDAL 1.7 ogr2ogr (from gdal-bin), but a QGIS that still uses
an earlier GDAL.

The version of GDAL your OGR provider is using is shown by

  ldd /usr/lib/qgis/plugins/libogrprovider.so | grep gdal

And the version of system SpatiaLite, if any, the SpatiaLite provider uses is
shown by

  ldd /usr/lib/qgis/plugins/libspatialiteprovider.so | grep spatialite

You can also check the about box to see the versions QGIS was built with (which
still might not necessarily be the currently installed and running versions).


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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS build with GDAL 1.7.x - Ubuntu

2010-08-29 Thread Noli Sicad
Hi Juergen and Alex

I solve the problem in New/Add Spatialite Layer.

The spatialite CLI 2.4.0r3a is actually intervening the QGIS
SpatiaLite provider (New
SpatiaLite Layer/Add SpatiaLite Layer.

I thought QGIS uses libspatialite and Spatialite binary does not
interact with QGIS.

I make unistalled Spatialite 2.4.0r3a and QGIS 1.5.0.2 works. This is
what happening to me in Windows as well. In Mac OS X, I don't install
the CLI spatialite, hence it is working properly.

Thanks for your patient on dealing this problem.

Now, we know why QGIS is not working when someone has been working
with spatialite CLI before installing QGIS.

Thanks.

Noli






On 8/29/10, Jürgen E. j...@norbit.de wrote:
 Hi Noli,

 On Sun, 29. Aug 2010 at 12:00:15 +1000, Noli Sicad wrote:
 I still have problem opening spatialite database / files  in trunk
 version - Quantum GIS - 1.6.0-Trunk 'Trunk' (14162M).

 Ok, let me repeat our earlier findings (with some additional info).

 Creating and using SpatiaLite databases via the SpatiaLite provider (New
 SpatiaLite Layer/Add SpatiaLite Layer) should work with any QGIS.

 But to create SpatiaLite databases using the QgsVectorFileWriter class (Save
 As)
 or use them via the OGR provider (Add Vector Layer) requires a QGIS linked
 to
 GDAL 1.7 that in turn is linked with SpatiaLite 2.4.

 The only public available Linux build I know that has that is the ubuntugis
 build of QGIS 1.5 - because ubuntugis' GDAL 1.7 has SpatiaLite support.

 The nightly debian builds are built against the GDAL the respective
 distribution has.  Which is commonly earlier than GDAL 1.7 and therefore
 doesn't include SpatiaLite support.

 So unless you install a GDAL 1.7 from ubuntugis (or Debian experimental) and
 use a QGIS build against it (QGIS 1.5 from ubuntugis or your own build), you
 won't have SpatiaLite support in Save As and the OGR provider.  SQLite
 support is probably there, but that's different from SpatiaLite.

 Which version of SpatiaLite is in use in the SpatiaLite provider is
 determined
 by whether or not the build is using the system's SpatiaLite or the qgis'
 internal SpatiaLite.

 The nightly trunk builds for Debian Squeeze and unstable and Ubuntu Lucid
 and
 Maverick use the system's SpatiaLite, all others (read Debian Lenny) use
 internal SpatiaLite, which currently is 2.4.0.

 When unstable and Maverick contain GDAL 1.7 the nightly builds with pick it
 up
 automatically.  So eventually the problem with the nightly builds will
 solve
 itself.

 Anybody using Ubuntu 10.04 and can open spatialite database and what
 versions of QGIS, spatialite, ogr2org, etc.

 The tool is called ogr2ogr.   But you could even have multiple libaries and
 therefore have a GDAL 1.7 ogr2ogr (from gdal-bin), but a QGIS that still
 uses
 an earlier GDAL.

 The version of GDAL your OGR provider is using is shown by

   ldd /usr/lib/qgis/plugins/libogrprovider.so | grep gdal

 And the version of system SpatiaLite, if any, the SpatiaLite provider uses
 is
 shown by

   ldd /usr/lib/qgis/plugins/libspatialiteprovider.so | grep spatialite

 You can also check the about box to see the versions QGIS was built with
 (which
 still might not necessarily be the currently installed and running
 versions).


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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS build with GDAL 1.7.x - Ubuntu

2010-08-28 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Noli,

On Sat, 28. Aug 2010 at 14:51:29 +1000, Noli Sicad wrote:
 It seems that QGIS trunk builds is still building using GDAL 1.6 as of
 27 August 2010.

The builds are simply using the GDAL the distribution has.  As far as I can
see only ubuntugis currently has GDAL 1.7.   That will eventually change and
once it does the nightly builds will pick it up.

You can always build you own packages - with is particulary easy on debian (and
ubuntu).   Install GDAL 1.7 from ubuntugis (or experimental - in the debian
case) and [1]


Jürgen

[1] http://www.qgis.org/wiki/Installation_Guide#Building_Debian_packages

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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS build with GDAL 1.7.x - Ubuntu

2010-08-28 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 28/08/2010 09:53, Jürgen E. Fischer ha scritto:

 You can always build you own packages - with is particulary easy on debian 
 (and

In case someone does it, please make the packages available to everybody.
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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS build with GDAL 1.7.x - Ubuntu

2010-08-28 Thread Noli Sicad
Hi Juergen,

Thanks for your suggestion in compiling from the source.

However, I investigated your QGIS 1.5.0.2 built and this one is
actually build with libgdal1.7.0.

I installed it and it is actually using GDAL 1.7.2 and Spatialite 2.4.0

But I could not open any spatialite that I created and also the
spatialite file (subway_test.sqlite) found in this website below.

http://gothos.info/2010/02/calculated-fields-in-spatialite-sqlite/

This is very strange bug. nyc_pumas (Geometry is an invalid layer
and cannot be loaded).

William's Mac OS X QGIS - QGIS-dev does not have this bug.

I will try to see what is inside that that built before compiling one.
He just did the compiling last weekend.

Thanks.

Regards, Noli




On 8/28/10, Jürgen E. j...@norbit.de wrote:
 Hi Noli,

 On Sat, 28. Aug 2010 at 14:51:29 +1000, Noli Sicad wrote:
 It seems that QGIS trunk builds is still building using GDAL 1.6 as of
 27 August 2010.

 The builds are simply using the GDAL the distribution has.  As far as I can
 see only ubuntugis currently has GDAL 1.7.   That will eventually change and
 once it does the nightly builds will pick it up.

 You can always build you own packages - with is particulary easy on debian
 (and
 ubuntu).   Install GDAL 1.7 from ubuntugis (or experimental - in the debian
 case) and [1]


 Jürgen

 [1] http://www.qgis.org/wiki/Installation_Guide#Building_Debian_packages

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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS build with GDAL 1.7.x - Ubuntu

2010-08-28 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Noli,

On Sat, 28. Aug 2010 at 19:40:16 +1000, Noli Sicad wrote:
 Thanks for your suggestion in compiling from the source.
 
 However, I investigated your QGIS 1.5.0.2 built and this one is
 actually build with libgdal1.7.0.

Sure.  As said earlier ubuntugis has GDAL 1.7 and the QGIS version in ubuntugis
uses it.

And for the other builds spatialite support through the spatialite provider
will also work just fine (ie. Layer/Add Spatialite Layer or Layer/New
Spatialite Layer).

But Save As doesn't use the spatialite provider but OGR.  So for that
SpatiaLite support is up to GDAL/OGR.  AFAIK earlier versions of GDAL didn't
have a clear distinction between SQLite and SpatiaLite - so you don't know if
sqlite means SQLite and SpatiaLite unless you check how GDAL was built.  I'm
not even sure GDAL 1.7 changes that - but it probably usually always built with
spatialite.


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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS build with GDAL 1.7.x - Ubuntu

2010-08-28 Thread Noli Sicad
Hi Juergen

 And for the other builds spatialite support through the spatialite provider
 will also work just fine (ie. Layer/Add Spatialite Layer or Layer/New
 Spatialite Layer).

QGIS 1.5.0.2 has problem with these processes. Mac OS version can do
these operations.

 But Save As doesn't use the spatialite provider but OGR.  So for that
 SpatiaLite support is up to GDAL/OGR.  AFAIK earlier versions of GDAL didn't
 have a clear distinction between SQLite and SpatiaLite - so you don't know
 if
 sqlite means SQLite and SpatiaLite unless you check how GDAL was built.  I'm
 not even sure GDAL 1.7 changes that - but it probably usually always built
 with spatialite.

Mac OS version has the same problem. It saves as sqlite, not spatialite.

Right now, Saves As should be avoid if we can dealing with Spatialite.

I hope this will be fixed or remove from the listbox as option.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS build with GDAL 1.7.x - Ubuntu

2010-08-28 Thread Noli Sicad
Hi Juergen,

I still have problem opening spatialite database / files  in trunk
version - Quantum GIS - 1.6.0-Trunk 'Trunk' (14162M).

I am using Ubuntu 10.04. I think there is no problem with ubuntu 9.10,
as some of the users are indicated before.

Anybody using Ubuntu 10.04 and can open spatialite database and what
versions of QGIS, spatialite, ogr2org, etc.

The mac os x QGIS-dev has almost same libraries used in QGIS 1.5.0.2
lucid except the Qt 4.6.3 instead of Qt4.6.2.

Here's log files of various versions of the libraries used in
1.6.0-Trunk 'Trunk' (14162M).

n...@noli-laptop:~$ cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu 10.04 LTS \n \l

n...@noli-laptop:~$ ogr2org -version
No command 'ogr2org' found, did you mean:
 Command 'ogr2ogr' from package 'gdal-bin' (universe)
ogr2org: command not found
n...@noli-laptop:~$ ogr2org --version
No command 'ogr2org' found, did you mean:
 Command 'ogr2ogr' from package 'gdal-bin' (universe)
ogr2org: command not found
n...@noli-laptop:~$ org2org --version
org2org: command not found
n...@noli-laptop:~$ ogr2ogr --version
GDAL 1.7.2, released 2010/04/23
n...@noli-laptop:~$ spatialite --version
SpatiaLite version ..: 2.4.0Supported Extensions:
- 'VirtualShape'[direct Shapefile access]
- 'VirtualDbf'  [direct DBF access]
- 'VirtualText' [direct CSV/TXT access]
- 'VirtualNetwork'  [Dijkstra shortest path]
- 'RTree'   [Spatial Index - R*Tree]
- 'MbrCache'[Spatial Index - MBR cache]
- 'VirtualFDO'  [FDO-OGR interoperability]
- 'SpatiaLite'  [Spatial SQL - OGC]
PROJ.4 version ..: Rel. 4.7.1, 23 September 2009
GEOS version : 3.2.2-CAPI-1.6.2
3.6.22
n...@noli-laptop:~$ qgis --version
qgis: unrecognized option '--version'
Quantum GIS - 1.6.0-Trunk 'Trunk' (14162M)
Quantum GIS (QGIS) is a viewer for spatial data sets, including
raster and vector data.
Usage: qgis [options] [FILES]
  options:
[--snapshot filename]   emit snapshot of loaded datasets to given file
[--width width] width of snapshot to emit
[--height height]   height of snapshot to emit
[--lang language]   use language for interface text
[--project projectfile] load the given QGIS project
[--extent xmin,ymin,xmax,ymax]  set initial map extent
[--nologo]  hide splash screen
[--noplugins]   don't restore plugins on startup
[--optionspath path]use the given QSettings path
[--configpath path] use the given path for all user configuration
[--help]this text

  FILES:
Files specified on the command line can include rasters,
vectors, and QGIS project files (.qgs):
 1. Rasters - Supported formats include GeoTiff, DEM
and others supported by GDAL
 2. Vectors - Supported formats include ESRI Shapefiles
and others supported by OGR and PostgreSQL layers using
the PostGIS extension
n...@noli-laptop:~$ qgis --version
qgis: unrecognized option '--version'
Quantum GIS - 1.6.0-Trunk 'Trunk' (14162M)
Quantum GIS (QGIS) is a viewer for spatial data sets, including
raster and vector data.
Usage: qgis [options] [FILES]
  options:
[--snapshot filename]   emit snapshot of loaded datasets to given file
[--width width] width of snapshot to emit
[--height height]   height of snapshot to emit
[--lang language]   use language for interface text
[--project projectfile] load the given QGIS project
[--extent xmin,ymin,xmax,ymax]  set initial map extent
[--nologo]  hide splash screen
[--noplugins]   don't restore plugins on startup
[--optionspath path]use the given QSettings path
[--configpath path] use the given path for all user configuration
[--help]this text

  FILES:
Files specified on the command line can include rasters,
vectors, and QGIS project files (.qgs):
 1. Rasters - Supported formats include GeoTiff, DEM
and others supported by GDAL
 2. Vectors - Supported formats include ESRI Shapefiles
and others supported by OGR and PostgreSQL layers using
the PostGIS extension
n...@noli-laptop:~$ clear

n...@noli-laptop:~$ cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu 10.04 LTS \n \l

n...@noli-laptop:~$ ogr2ogr --version
GDAL 1.7.2, released 2010/04/23
n...@noli-laptop:~$ spatialite --version
SpatiaLite version ..: 2.4.0Supported Extensions:
- 'VirtualShape'[direct Shapefile access]
- 'VirtualDbf'  [direct DBF access]
- 'VirtualText' [direct CSV/TXT access]
- 'VirtualNetwork'  [Dijkstra shortest path]
- 'RTree'   [Spatial Index - R*Tree]
- 'MbrCache'[Spatial Index - MBR cache]
- 'VirtualFDO'  [FDO-OGR interoperability]
- 'SpatiaLite'  [Spatial SQL - OGC]
PROJ.4 version ..: Rel. 4.7.1, 

Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS build with GDAL 1.7.x - Ubuntu

2010-08-28 Thread Noli Sicad
Hi Alex,

Thanks for your reply.

 I can make a new Spatialite layer using Layer-New-New Spatialite
 Layer. I believe this is the only correct way to make a Spatialite layer
 in the current version, Not 'Save As' that is OGR sqlite only. It is
 editable, saveable and loadable. Note QGIS uses a built in Spatialite in
 this case, I do not have spatialite installed on the system.

Yes, I understand, the New Spatialite layer and QGIS has its own
spatialite provider compiled wtih QGIS.

My problem is, I am not creating any spatialite layer in QGIS, I like
to view and edit spatialite created outside QGIS. The one that I am
testing in opening in QGIS ubuntu has been open in Mac OS X QGIS-dev.
I could not open the old and new spatialite, or any spatialite files
in QGIS ubuntu.

 I can also verify that I can open Spatialite layers created with older
 versions of Spatialite directly in QGIS.

 You might want to start fresh with just what you get from the Ubuntugis
 repos. Mixing and matching with custom compiled can easily lead to
 multiple conflicting versions of libraries on your system path.

Which version of QGIS are you using that is working spatialite? This
version QGIS 1.5.0.2, right. Did you get it from this repository.

sudo apt-get install add-apt-repository
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable
sudo aptitude install qgis

As mentioned in my previous posting, I am using QGIS 1.5.0.2 and
QGIS1.6 trunk created by Juergen with no success. When I installed
these two versions, one at the time, it actually picked the right
library it was compiled as features of linux system. It does not mix
and match until you compile your own version of QGIS. I have not done
any compiling yet.

I really like to get your version that is working. My ubuntu 10.04 is
really clean since I just installed it 2 days ago and beside beside I
am using the stock sqlite3 and spatialite that comes with ubuntu
10.04, not the new versions of sqlite and spatialite 2.4.0 r3a.

Do you know any other repository e.g. Xubuntu 10.04 that has QGIS that
is working with Spatialite?

Thanks.

Noli
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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS build with GDAL 1.7.x - Ubuntu

2010-08-27 Thread Alan Boudreault
The qgis package of UbuntuGIS seems to be built against gdal 1.7.x.

http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/

Alan

On August 27, 2010 08:16:50 am Noli Sicad wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Where could I get QGIS build with GDAL 1.7.x  - Ubuntu?
 
 It seems that QGIS 1.5 and QGIS 1.6 trunk are built using GDAL1.6.3
 and python-qgis and other are using GDAL 1.7.3.
 
 I could not open spatialite database created using the latest 2.4.0 in
 QGIS built with GDAL 1.6.3.
 
 Mac OS X QGIS 1.6 trunk works perfectly. However, I need  SciTE - no
 SciTE in Mac OS X.
 
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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS build with GDAL 1.7.x - Ubuntu

2010-08-27 Thread Noli Sicad
Hi Alan,

Qgis1.5.0-2~lucid1 is not in repository anymore.

 I think it has been replaced by QGIS 1.6.0 + svn14153 -lucid1 which I
installed.

 Quantum GIS r14153M

In the Help Menu
Help- About - This copy of QGIS has been buiilt with GDAL/OCR 1.6.3.

I thought that the QGIS trunk is compiling using GDAL 1.7.3 now.

Mac OS X Qgis-dev is compiled using GDAL 1.7.3.

https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntugis-unstable
I am very sure that I am using this repository since all your packages
are showing in Synaptic Package Manager.

Thanks.

Noli

On 8/28/10, Alan Boudreault aboudrea...@mapgears.com wrote:
 The qgis package of UbuntuGIS seems to be built against gdal 1.7.x.

 http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/

 Alan

 On August 27, 2010 08:16:50 am Noli Sicad wrote:
 Hi,

 Where could I get QGIS build with GDAL 1.7.x  - Ubuntu?

 It seems that QGIS 1.5 and QGIS 1.6 trunk are built using GDAL1.6.3
 and python-qgis and other are using GDAL 1.7.3.

 I could not open spatialite database created using the latest 2.4.0 in
 QGIS built with GDAL 1.6.3.

 Mac OS X QGIS 1.6 trunk works perfectly. However, I need  SciTE - no
 SciTE in Mac OS X.

 Noli
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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS build with GDAL 1.7.x - Ubuntu

2010-08-27 Thread Noli Sicad
The funny thing about this built QGIS 1.6.0 is, if can't open the
spatialite it created.

Here's the steps.

1. Open shapefile
2. Save it as spatialite i.e. Sqlite
3. Remove shapefile
4. Open the newly created Sqlite

I can't open the sqlite file that QGIS created.

I don't know what is wrong.

Where could I find QGIS 1.5.0 ubuntu that can open spatialite that it
created it?

The windows QGIS, not mentioned Mac OS X  can do the above steps.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS build with GDAL 1.7.x - Ubuntu

2010-08-27 Thread Giuseppe Sucameli
Hi Noli,

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Noli Sicad nsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 The funny thing about this built QGIS 1.6.0 is, if can't open the
 spatialite it created.

 Here's the steps.

 1. Open shapefile
 2. Save it as spatialite i.e. Sqlite

Maybe did you use Save as...?
If you did, the .sqlite you created is not a valid spatialite database
(non-spatial table inside it) but only a sqlite vector file.

To open it use Add vector layer.

Cheers.

3. Remove shapefile
 4. Open the newly created Sqlite

 I can't open the sqlite file that QGIS created.

 I don't know what is wrong.

 Where could I find QGIS 1.5.0 ubuntu that can open spatialite that it
 created it?

 The windows QGIS, not mentioned Mac OS X  can do the above steps.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS build with GDAL 1.7.x - Ubuntu

2010-08-27 Thread Noli Sicad
 Here's the steps.

 1. Open shapefile
 2. Save it as spatialite i.e. Sqlite

 Maybe did you use Save as...?

No. I clicked the vector layer and save sqlite.

I have been this testing for 2 weeks now, trying to find the right
version of QGIS in Windows, Mac OS X and Linux with Spatialite.

My laptop now is triple boot (Window 7, Mac OS X and Ubuntu) to find a solution.

 If you did, the .sqlite you created is not a valid spatialite database
 (non-spatial table inside it) but only a sqlite vector file.

 To open it use Add vector layer.

I tried to do this Add vector layer with spatialite a week ago in
Windows 7 and Windows XP. The funny thing is QGIS tries to open it as
well and display tables to open. It should say not a valid file.

Anyway, I have been doing the same steps / processes in QGIS in
Windows and Mac OS X.  Both built can open spatialite it created. QGIS
windows has still problem with the latest spatialite 2.4.0.  But at
least it open spatialite database it created i.e. saving the vector
file into sqlite.

One of the main features of QGIS 1.5 release is how easy to save
vector files to spatialite and open it.

Building QGIS with GDAL1.7.3 would fix this problem as William did in
QGIS Mac OS X.

It seems that QGIS trunk builds is still building using GDAL 1.6 as of
27 August 2010.

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