Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-07-04 Thread Peter
Hi Adrian, In the end, and to be absolutely blunt about it, it simply wasn't worth the effort required for the small return. For myself, the problem is lack of time not lack of money. To see the QL- SD fail because of money would be tragic. If your decision can still be reconsidered, please

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-15 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Marcel Kilgus wrote: It was always possible to implement different file systems, SMSQ/E itself comes with FAT12 support built-in for example. A layered approach would just ensure that the file system could easily be shared between hardware drivers. But with the state things are in, everybody

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-14 Thread Miguel Angel Rodriguez Jodar
Interestingly it looks as though the driver is only 4K !! Well. That is not the driver. That is a simple proof-of-concept program to demonstrate the speed achieved with MOVE.L reads from the card. More details (spanish, but Google traslate is your friend) here:

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-14 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Miguel Angel Rodriguez Jodar wrote: A proper QDOS driver is still needed. That remainds me of a thing I'd like to know and it's not very clear in the documentation I've read: for a directory device driver, I see that I have to implement high level file routines (OPEN, CLOSE, READ, WRITE,

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-14 Thread Miguel Angel Rodriguez Jodar
Unfortunately yes. There is no abstraction layer between hardware and file system. Well... that's not necessarily bad news. That means that I can implement FAT and thus, easing file sharing between PC and QL :) ___ QL-Users Mailing List

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-14 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Miguel Angel Rodriguez Jodar wrote: Unfortunately yes. There is no abstraction layer between hardware and file system. Well... that's not necessarily bad news. That means that I can implement FAT and thus, easing file sharing between PC and QL :) It was always possible to implement

[Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-13 Thread thorsten herbert
Seems to be too late now, but this really sounds like a perfect case for Kickstarter: http://www.kickstarter.com/ It's a crowd-funding site, people can say hey, I have this cool project and if 100 people pledge to spend 50€ on it, it will be built. If not, no money is lost. Most projects are

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-13 Thread Rich Mellor
On 13/06/2012 10:21, thorsten herbert wrote: Seems to be too late now, but this really sounds like a perfect case for Kickstarter: http://www.kickstarter.com/ It's a crowd-funding site, people can say hey, I have this cool project and if 100 people pledge to spend 50€ on it, it will be built.

[Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-13 Thread thorsten herbert
The external ROM port solution seems a more sensible way to go as it addresses both issues, but then we are left with someone needing the time to redesign the whole interface (time is Peter's main issue here) Can this be may of use? It was published on the spanish

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-13 Thread Tony Firshman
Rich Mellor wrote, on 13/Jun/12 10:38 | Jun13: On 13/06/2012 10:21, thorsten herbert wrote: Seems to be too late now, but this really sounds like a perfect case for Kickstarter: http://www.kickstarter.com/ It's a crowd-funding site, people can say hey, I have this cool project and if 100

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-13 Thread Rich Mellor
On 13/06/2012 11:12, thorsten herbert wrote: The external ROM port solution seems a more sensible way to go as it addresses both issues, but then we are left with someone needing the time to redesign the whole interface (time is Peter's main issue here) Can this be may of use? It was published

[Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-13 Thread thorsten herbert
That is another QL-SD project which I don't recall ever hearing about. Interestingly it looks as though the driver is only 4K !! I have emailed Miguel directly to see where he is with this. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services Specialist Enuuk Auction Programming Services www.rwapservices.co.uk

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-12 Thread Rich Mellor
On 11/06/2012 16:56, Dilwyn Jones wrote: I think the key advantage for an SD-card project is something Urs already said years ago, that it might appeal to computer collectors. These are not terribly interested in the QL per se but might pay something if it enables them to transfer files to one

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-12 Thread Norman Dunbar
Morning all, On 12/06/12 09:58, Rich Mellor wrote: It is just a shame that there was not all this enthusiasm and discussion some months ago when Adrian needed to see some interest in the QL-SD Interface. Agreed. I think it's truly wonderful that people are still putting effort and time and

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-12 Thread Rich Mellor
On 12/06/2012 10:29, Norman Dunbar wrote: Morning all, On 12/06/12 09:58, Rich Mellor wrote: It is just a shame that there was not all this enthusiasm and discussion some months ago when Adrian needed to see some interest in the QL-SD Interface. Agreed. I think it's truly wonderful that

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-12 Thread Bryan Horstmann
On 12/06/2012 09:58, Rich Mellor wrote: On 11/06/2012 16:56, Dilwyn Jones wrote: I think the key advantage for an SD-card project is something Urs already said years ago, that it might appeal to computer collectors. These are not terribly interested in the QL per se but might pay something if

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-12 Thread Urs Koenig (QL)
Adrian Ives wrote: I am sorry to announce that I have taken the decision to withdraw from developing QL hardware. In the current economic climate, it is no longer practical to devote resources to such a small (almost non-existent) market, and I need to concentrate my energies elsewhere. Sad

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-12 Thread Adrian Ives
It's a bit of an over-simplification to lay the reasoning for my decision to withdraw solely on the lack of interest. It has more to do with simple economics. It costs money to buy the stock to build the units. As I have said before about the Ser-USB, unless the stock can be bought in bulk, it is

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-12 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Adrian Ives wrote: It's a bit of an over-simplification to lay the reasoning for my decision to withdraw solely on the lack of interest. It has more to do with simple economics. It costs money to buy the stock to build the units. As I have said before about the Ser-USB, unless the stock can be

[Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-11 Thread thorsten herbert
Hi Adrian, am very sorry to read your news! You have done a great job and I was very happy to see some movement and new hardware developments! My plan was to wait still the SD project is ready and than make my old QL working again which anyhow needs some repair ... In general as I see it,

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-11 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Adrian Ives wrote: I have sent the most recent sources to Peter Graf just a few minutes ago. The code may be placed in the public domain, but it is up to Peter how he wishes to move forward with it. I regret that I cannot offer any support with the drivers as I am moving on to other projects,

[Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-11 Thread thorsten herbert
Adrian Ives wrote: I have sent the most recent sources to Peter Graf just a few minutes ago. The code may be placed in the public domain, but it is up to Peter how he wishes to move forward with it. I regret that I cannot offer any support with the drivers as I am moving on to other

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-11 Thread Dave Park
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:39 AM, Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net wrote: Adrian Ives wrote: I have sent the most recent sources to Peter Graf just a few minutes ago. The code may be placed in the public domain, but it is up to Peter how he wishes to move forward with it. I regret that I

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-11 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dave Park wrote: Of course, no idea if any hardware development for the QL could ever be commercially successfully nowadays, but it might have made for a nice KickStarter project to gauge real interest. Having worked it out myself for my own projects, I know they'd never be commercially

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-11 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I think the key advantage for an SD-card project is something Urs already said years ago, that it might appeal to computer collectors. These are not terribly interested in the QL per se but might pay something if it enables them to transfer files to one of their collector items without too much

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-10 Thread Adrian Ives
Dave, I've no problem with doing that but right now I don't have the time to take it forward. I will put the schematics and code online just as soon as I can get around to it ... but it won't be anytime soon. Adrian www.memorylanecomputing.com On 10/06/2012 03:42, Dave Park wrote: Adrian,

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-10 Thread Rich Mellor
On 09/06/2012 18:16, Adrian Ives wrote: I am sorry to announce that I have taken the decision to withdraw from developing QL hardware. In the current economic climate, it is no longer practical to devote resources to such a small (almost non-existent) market, and I need to concentrate my

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-10 Thread Adrian Ives
I have sent the most recent sources to Peter Graf just a few minutes ago. The code may be placed in the public domain, but it is up to Peter how he wishes to move forward with it. I regret that I cannot offer any support with the drivers as I am moving on to other projects, but the code is very

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-10 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 4fd3850a.5090...@memorylanecomputing.com, Adrian Ives adrian.i...@memorylanecomputing.com writes I am sorry to announce that I have taken the decision to withdraw from developing QL hardware. In the current economic climate, it is no longer practical to devote resources to such a

[Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-09 Thread Adrian Ives
I am sorry to announce that I have taken the decision to withdraw from developing QL hardware. In the current economic climate, it is no longer practical to devote resources to such a small (almost non-existent) market, and I need to concentrate my energies elsewhere. Unfortunately this means

Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawing from the QL Market

2012-06-09 Thread Dave Park
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Adrian Ives adrian.i...@memorylanecomputing.com wrote: I am sorry to announce that I have taken the decision to withdraw from developing QL hardware. In the current economic climate, it is no longer practical to devote resources to such a small (almost