[Ql-Users] QA.RESRI - QDOSMSQ eference guide
Hi, thanks, Per, for pointing out the inconsistencies in the entry conditions in vector QA.RESRI. I'll make a note in the next version of the "QDOS SMS Reference guide" (ex Technical Manual and ex QDOS SMS reference manual) that on SMSQ/E it is not necessary to save the stack pointer in BV_RIP(A6) before calling this vector. However, I'm going to leave the general requirement in, since I don't know how this is handled in QDOS (AH, JM, JS etc), or in Minerva. Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] A polite request
Ah, I see. Although I too use Thunderbird (except when Im on the hoof) I never realised thats how it worked. Very sorry. Pure ignorance not callous disregard for anyone's finer sensitivities. Also, being slightly dyxlespic I forget whether top or bottom posting is /de rigueu/r on this list. I remember that getting it wrong drove poor Tony Firshman spare! Sadly he hasnt been around for a while to give us a timely reminder. Anyway, this may be a good time to remind ourselves of Napoleon's excellent maxim: Dont put down the malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence! Per On 14/02/2018 21:24, Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users wrote: Hi Per, On 14/02/18 20:21, pjwitte via Ql-Users wrote: If Ive sinned, Norm, please forgive. Are you refering to anything I did? I ax cause I havent noticed the problem, so perhaps I missed something? Anyway, enjoy your wine, although I would have thought a hot toddy would bring more cheer after your wet waddle to Waitrose.. Per on this occasion, you just happened to be the victim, yes. Other culprits have done it before, not just to me though. So worry ye not! I also get this on some Oracle lists that I follow for work, it's a right pain, and even when the mods tell people off, they still do it. I'm currently scoffing a hot, decaf latte, one wine a night midweek is enough, I need to be up early tomorrow and at work by 7AM. Cheers, Norm. ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] A polite request
On 14/02/18 20:22, Dave Park via Ql-Users wrote: Also, have you guys been following my new hardware releases on the forums recently? I see what you did there Dave! ;-) And, yes, I have been following. Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: 27a Lidget Hill Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7LG Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] A polite request
Hi Per, On 14/02/18 20:21, pjwitte via Ql-Users wrote: If Ive sinned, Norm, please forgive. Are you refering to anything I did? I ax cause I havent noticed the problem, so perhaps I missed something? Anyway, enjoy your wine, although I would have thought a hot toddy would bring more cheer after your wet waddle to Waitrose.. Per on this occasion, you just happened to be the victim, yes. Other culprits have done it before, not just to me though. So worry ye not! I also get this on some Oracle lists that I follow for work, it's a right pain, and even when the mods tell people off, they still do it. I'm currently scoffing a hot, decaf latte, one wine a night midweek is enough, I need to be up early tomorrow and at work by 7AM. Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: 27a Lidget Hill Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7LG Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] A polite request
I don't know... Having to read ALL THE THREADS sounds like an appropriate punishment for a man who is so neglectful of his poor, loving wife. In a far off land, all alone, just these young native men who are half naked all over the place, virile and free. Hell, got any of that wine left? :P Right, to the request! It's part of netiquette that if you drift a conversation of topic, you're supposed to rename the thread to cover the new direction. It should still nest under the original thread in mail readers. This is why I mostly use the forums I also hate it when people drift off topic within a thread! Also, have you guys been following my new hardware releases on the forums recently? On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users < ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote: > Good Evening All, > > my wife is currently in Central America, chasing sloths, and I've been > lambasted because she didn't get her Valentine's card. Go figure, it's > waiting here for he but that's not good enough - I should have hidden in in > her suitcase! > > That's just so you know what kind of night I'm having, plus, is pi55ing > down and I'm soaked having just (stupidly) decided to walk to the > supermarket. And back, with the shopping! > > > Right, the request... > > Please, please, please do not "hijack" a thread. Don't reply to a thread > and change the subject to something completely unrelated. Thanks. > > It's a complete pain in the backside (see, I'm being polite!) when I miss > out on some interesting topics because someone has replied to another > thread that I'm not following. > > It's especially painful when someone replied to my threads - I don't tend > to read my own stuff after the topic has come to a graceful conclusion, so > the new topic thread remain hidden within my ramblings. I just noticed a > new topic thread hidden in my recent "Assembly language ePeriodical Issue > 4" thread. > > I use Thunderbird, I have it configured to list emails in threads, and in > reverse date order with most recent first. If you start a new thread by > replying to another, and change the subject, your threaded topic ends up > hidden within the original topic thread and I miss out on stuff! > > Anyway, I just wanted to get that off my chest! > > Cheers, > Norm. > > PS. Yes, I have had a large glass of crisp white wine tonight! ;-) > > -- > Norman Dunbar > Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd > > Registered address: > 27a Lidget Hill > Pudsey > West Yorkshire > United Kingdom > LS28 7LG > > Company Number: 05132767 > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > -- Dave Park d...@sinclairql.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] A polite request
If Ive sinned, Norm, please forgive. Are you refering to anything I did? I ax cause I havent noticed the problem, so perhaps I missed something? Anyway, enjoy your wine, although I would have thought a hot toddy would bring more cheer after your wet waddle to Waitrose.. Per On 14/02/2018 20:40, Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users wrote: Good Evening All, my wife is currently in Central America, chasing sloths, and I've been lambasted because she didn't get her Valentine's card. Go figure, it's waiting here for he but that's not good enough - I should have hidden in in her suitcase! That's just so you know what kind of night I'm having, plus, is pi55ing down and I'm soaked having just (stupidly) decided to walk to the supermarket. And back, with the shopping! Right, the request... Please, please, please do not "hijack" a thread. Don't reply to a thread and change the subject to something completely unrelated. Thanks. It's a complete pain in the backside (see, I'm being polite!) when I miss out on some interesting topics because someone has replied to another thread that I'm not following. It's especially painful when someone replied to my threads - I don't tend to read my own stuff after the topic has come to a graceful conclusion, so the new topic thread remain hidden within my ramblings. I just noticed a new topic thread hidden in my recent "Assembly language ePeriodical Issue 4" thread. I use Thunderbird, I have it configured to list emails in threads, and in reverse date order with most recent first. If you start a new thread by replying to another, and change the subject, your threaded topic ends up hidden within the original topic thread and I miss out on stuff! Anyway, I just wanted to get that off my chest! Cheers, Norm. PS. Yes, I have had a large glass of crisp white wine tonight! ;-) ___ QL-Users Mailing List
[Ql-Users] A polite request
Good Evening All, my wife is currently in Central America, chasing sloths, and I've been lambasted because she didn't get her Valentine's card. Go figure, it's waiting here for he but that's not good enough - I should have hidden in in her suitcase! That's just so you know what kind of night I'm having, plus, is pi55ing down and I'm soaked having just (stupidly) decided to walk to the supermarket. And back, with the shopping! Right, the request... Please, please, please do not "hijack" a thread. Don't reply to a thread and change the subject to something completely unrelated. Thanks. It's a complete pain in the backside (see, I'm being polite!) when I miss out on some interesting topics because someone has replied to another thread that I'm not following. It's especially painful when someone replied to my threads - I don't tend to read my own stuff after the topic has come to a graceful conclusion, so the new topic thread remain hidden within my ramblings. I just noticed a new topic thread hidden in my recent "Assembly language ePeriodical Issue 4" thread. I use Thunderbird, I have it configured to list emails in threads, and in reverse date order with most recent first. If you start a new thread by replying to another, and change the subject, your threaded topic ends up hidden within the original topic thread and I miss out on stuff! Anyway, I just wanted to get that off my chest! Cheers, Norm. PS. Yes, I have had a large glass of crisp white wine tonight! ;-) -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: 27a Lidget Hill Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7LG Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QA.RESRI info incorrect
pjwitte via Ql-Users wrote: > On 14/02/2018 15:04, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users wrote: >> pjwitte via Ql-Users wrote: >>> Error returns: >>> IMEM out of memory [SMSQ] >> This is correct. > If this is correct, isnt that bad news for any old toolkits that dont > expect the call to return on IMEM (as per the original Technical > Guide)? They would assume the memory is there and poke a hole in it.. Yes, actually I might be wrong here, looks like it tries to abandon the current command in this case. >>> Error returns: none >> This is not ;-) > You are certain of this? Nah, for me nothing is certain in SBasic ;-) By the way, if you look at the Minerva code you see retzero moveq #0,d0 this was silly, but Qlib expected it! rts Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QA.RESRI info incorrect
On 14/02/2018 15:04, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users wrote: pjwitte via Ql-Users wrote: Error returns: IMEM out of memory [SMSQ] This is correct. If this is correct, isnt that bad news for any old toolkits that dont expect the call to return on IMEM (as per the original Technical Guide)? They would assume the memory is there and poke a hole in it.. A1 A1 ??? This is probably correct. Error returns: none This is not ;-) You are certain of this? Some of us have tried to follow some of the many paths this routine could take, and at least in some instances it appears to actually return to BASIC directly. So are you saying that in some instances it dosnt? ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QA.RESRI info incorrect
pjwitte via Ql-Users wrote: > Error returns: > IMEM out of memory [SMSQ] This is correct. > A1 A1 ??? This is probably correct. > Error returns: none This is not ;-) Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List
[Ql-Users] QA.RESRI info incorrect
|In later versions of the QDOS and SMSQ/E Reference Manual the documentation on QA.RESRI (aka bv.chrix), to test or stretch the arithmetic stack states: Vector $11A Reserve Room on Arithmetic Stack QA.RESRI Call parameters Return parameters D1.L Number of bytes required D1 ??? D2 D2.L ??? D3 D3.L ??? A0 A0 Preserved A1 Pointer to RI stack (rel. A6) A1 ??? A2 A2 Preserved A3 A3 Preserved Error returns: IMEM out of memory [SMSQ] none [QDOS] This is strongly suspected to be incorrect. It should say the following (two corrections): ||Vector $11A Reserve Room on Arithmetic Stack QA.RESRI Call parameters Return parameters D1.L Number of bytes required D1 ??? D2 D2.L ??? D3 D3.L ??? A0 A0 Preserved A1 A1 ??? A2 A2 Preserved A3 A3 Preserved Error returns: none Please complain if you know otherwise, or correct your notes, as appropriate Per ||| ___ QL-Users Mailing List