Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personalSoftware PreservationProject

2016-07-06 Thread Norman Dunbar
Try Clued Up Communications, London. That's where he's been since 2000. He's 
done a couple of java based sql databases too it seems.

Cheers,
Norm.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personalSoftware PreservationProject

2016-07-06 Thread Norman Dunbar
Fred doesn't reply to emails asking about t87. I asked years ago when I found 
he was involved in Firebird SQL,  a database I work with, and write 
documentation for,  but as soon as I asked anything about his QL stuff, 
silence. Good luck to anyone trying. 

Cheers,
Norm. It's 10.30 pm here now, and 37 degrees. :-(
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Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personalSoftware PreservationProject

2016-07-06 Thread Ralf Reköndt

No chance withot an account...

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Mellor (RWAP)" <r...@rwapservices.co.uk>

To: <ql-us...@q-v-d.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personalSoftware 
PreservationProject




I can't issue a working email address - but I found him on LinkedIn -

https://www.linkedin.com/in/fred-toussi-41227591

Rich

On July 6, 2016 at 6:40 PM Ralf Reköndt <ralf.rekoe...@t-online.de> 
wrote:



Ok, has anyone a working email address for Fred Toussi?

- Original Message -
From: "Dilwyn Jones" <dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk>
To: <ql-us...@q-v-d.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personalSoftware
PreservationProject


>> For those of us who are unfamiliar with T87, is there some (short)
>> example document and the ASCII of the text contained?
>>
>> Graeme
> The drivers_info_t87 file supplied with it states that the sources for 
> the
> printer drivers were not included on the disk for lack of space but 
> were
> available on request from the author Fred Toussi. I'm not in contact 
> with
> him now, but if anyone did go to the trouble of getting these from him, 
> it

> might possibly help I suppose.
>
> There is some information at the end of the above file:
>
> STRUCTURE OF PRINTER DRIVERS
>
> Each printer driver file consists of tables of numbers and strings and 
> a

> small amount of machine code. The supplied files vary in size. The
> Assembly Language source code for the driver files is available 
> separately

> from Software87. Some of the source code files are for more than one
> printer driver. Modifying the driver files requires the use of an
> assembler to re-assemble the modified source file. Modification can be
> very simple, as in the case of changing a number representing the pitch 
> of
> a daisywheel, or more complex when a printer with a completely 
> different
> standard is aimed at. With many Epson compatible dot-matrix printers, 
> the
> width tables for proportionally spaced characters are different from 
> those

> of the Epson printers for which there is a driver. This means that when
> proportional spacing is used within a line, that line may not justify
> correctly. The width tables within the printer driver should be 
> modified

> for correct justification.
>
> The source listings are in the form of _T91 or _T87 documents. 
> Extensive
> comments on the structure of the printer driver files can be found in 
> the

> LX800 file. Once modifications have been made, driver files must be
> |Export|ed using the |Ascii| command to make them readable by 
> assemblers.
> The SINCLAIR Macro Assembler or Assembler (written by GST) can be used 
> for
> assembling the printer drivers. The Macro Assembler can be purchased 
> from

> QUANTA.
>
> I have a working Text 87 (thanks to Marcel for the patch program) so 
> could
> export the data to help anyone prepared to look into this if we can 
> find

> these sources.
>
> As it is, I’ll privately send you some Text87 files to experiment with
> along with exported ascii text to compare. I’ve not looked at it 
> myself,
> but I suspect that with all the options such as proportional spacing 
> etc

> etc Text 87 has to handle it might be a very complex file format.
>
> Dilwyn
>
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personalSoftware PreservationProject

2016-07-06 Thread Rich Mellor (RWAP)
I can't issue a working email address - but I found him on LinkedIn -
 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/fred-toussi-41227591
 
Rich

> On July 6, 2016 at 6:40 PM Ralf Reköndt <ralf.rekoe...@t-online.de> wrote:
>
>
> Ok, has anyone a working email address for Fred Toussi?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dilwyn Jones" <dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <ql-us...@q-v-d.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 7:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personalSoftware
> PreservationProject
>
>
> >> For those of us who are unfamiliar with T87, is there some (short)
> >> example document and the ASCII of the text contained?
> >>
> >> Graeme
> > The drivers_info_t87 file supplied with it states that the sources for the
> > printer drivers were not included on the disk for lack of space but were
> > available on request from the author Fred Toussi. I'm not in contact with
> > him now, but if anyone did go to the trouble of getting these from him, it
> > might possibly help I suppose.
> >
> > There is some information at the end of the above file:
> >
> > STRUCTURE OF PRINTER DRIVERS
> >
> > Each printer driver file consists of tables of numbers and strings and a
> > small amount of machine code. The supplied files vary in size. The
> > Assembly Language source code for the driver files is available separately
> > from Software87. Some of the source code files are for more than one
> > printer driver. Modifying the driver files requires the use of an
> > assembler to re-assemble the modified source file. Modification can be
> > very simple, as in the case of changing a number representing the pitch of
> > a daisywheel, or more complex when a printer with a completely different
> > standard is aimed at. With many Epson compatible dot-matrix printers, the
> > width tables for proportionally spaced characters are different from those
> > of the Epson printers for which there is a driver. This means that when
> > proportional spacing is used within a line, that line may not justify
> > correctly. The width tables within the printer driver should be modified
> > for correct justification.
> >
> > The source listings are in the form of _T91 or _T87 documents. Extensive
> > comments on the structure of the printer driver files can be found in the
> > LX800 file. Once modifications have been made, driver files must be
> > |Export|ed using the |Ascii| command to make them readable by assemblers.
> > The SINCLAIR Macro Assembler or Assembler (written by GST) can be used for
> > assembling the printer drivers. The Macro Assembler can be purchased from
> > QUANTA.
> >
> > I have a working Text 87 (thanks to Marcel for the patch program) so could
> > export the data to help anyone prepared to look into this if we can find
> > these sources.
> >
> > As it is, I’ll privately send you some Text87 files to experiment with
> > along with exported ascii text to compare. I’ve not looked at it myself,
> > but I suspect that with all the options such as proportional spacing etc
> > etc Text 87 has to handle it might be a very complex file format.
> >
> > Dilwyn
> >
> >
> > -
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> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 2016.0.7640 / Virus Database: 4627/12565 - Release Date: 07/05/16
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Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personalSoftware PreservationProject

2016-07-06 Thread Dilwyn Jones
> For those of us who are unfamiliar with T87, is there some (short)
> example document and the ASCII of the text contained?
> 
> Graeme
The drivers_info_t87 file supplied with it states that the sources for the 
printer drivers were not included on the disk for lack of space but were 
available on request from the author Fred Toussi. I'm not in contact with him 
now, but if anyone did go to the trouble of getting these from him, it might 
possibly help I suppose.

There is some information at the end of the above file:

STRUCTURE OF PRINTER DRIVERS

Each printer driver file consists of tables of numbers and strings and a small 
amount of machine code.  The supplied files vary in size.  The Assembly 
Language source code for the driver files is available separately from 
Software87.  Some of the source code files are for more than one printer 
driver. Modifying the driver files requires the use of an assembler to 
re-assemble the modified source file.  Modification can be very simple, as in 
the case of changing a number representing the pitch of a daisywheel, or more 
complex when a printer with a completely different standard is aimed at.  With 
many Epson compatible dot-matrix printers, the width tables for proportionally 
spaced characters are different from those of the Epson printers for which 
there is a driver.  This means that when proportional spacing is used within a 
line, that line may not justify correctly.  The width tables within the printer 
driver should be modified for correct justification.

The source listings are in the form of _T91 or _T87 documents.  Extensive 
comments on the structure of the printer driver files can be found in the LX800 
file.  Once modifications have been made, driver files must be |Export|ed using 
the |Ascii| command to make them readable by assemblers.  The SINCLAIR Macro 
Assembler or Assembler (written by GST) can be used for assembling the printer 
drivers.  The Macro Assembler can be purchased from QUANTA.

I have a working Text 87 (thanks to Marcel for the patch program) so could 
export the data to help anyone prepared to look into this if we can find these 
sources.

As it is, I’ll privately send you some Text87 files to experiment with along 
with exported ascii text to compare. I’ve not looked at it myself, but I 
suspect that with all the options such as proportional spacing etc etc Text 87 
has to handle it might be a very complex file format.

Dilwyn


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Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personalSoftware PreservationProject

2016-07-06 Thread Graeme Gregory


On Wed, 6 Jul 2016, at 05:19 PM, Ralf Reköndt wrote:
> Simply ask Fred Toussi, why he do not explain the programming of a T87
> printer driver and the way, he saves documents.
> 
> And be careful about the sun!
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Norman Dunbar"
> 
> > Rich's original manual,  in Text87 I think, is a prime example - we can't
> > get a printer driver or extractor created to properly convert the text to
> > legal html, or to extract the text somehow, while preserving or matting,
> > or indicators of same. I tried, years ago with blank files,  then some
> > with plain text etc etc to decode the files.  I failed.
> 

For those of us who are unfamiliar with T87, is there some (short)
example document and the ASCII of the text contained?

Graeme
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Re: [Ql-Users] Withdrawal of my personalSoftware PreservationProject

2016-07-06 Thread Ralf Reköndt

Simply ask Fred Toussi, why he do not explain the programming of a T87
printer driver and the way, he saves documents.

And be careful about the sun!

- Original Message - 
From: "Norman Dunbar"



Rich's original manual,  in Text87 I think, is a prime example - we can't
get a printer driver or extractor created to properly convert the text to
legal html, or to extract the text somehow, while preserving or matting,
or indicators of same. I tried, years ago with blank files,  then some
with plain text etc etc to decode the files.  I failed.


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