Dave Dexter writes:
How do people actually use their machines these days? What's in demand?
I use my 'QL' as an all-rounder - apart from Internet, scanning, CD-burning,
networking and DTP. Database, accounting, letter writing, programming
(S*Basic, assembler, php) and general mucking about are
Dave Dexter writes:
How do people actually use their machines these days? What's in
demand?
Per Witte replies:
I use my 'QL' as an all-rounder - apart from Internet, scanning,
CD-burning,
networking and DTP. Database, accounting, letter writing, programming
(S*Basic, assembler, php) and general
(drat, Phoebus!) my camera uses SmartMedia not CF.
Oh there is salvation for you still I can get a SmartMedia to IDE
adapter I think (albeit not as cheap)
He he, thanks, but I use a floppy disk adaptor for them. Only
accessible on Windows machines due to software drivers needed but I'm
not
At 04:28 ìì 13/1/2002 +, you wrote:
(drat, Phoebus!) my camera uses SmartMedia not CF.
Oh there is salvation for you still I can get a SmartMedia to IDE
adapter I think (albeit not as cheap)
He he, thanks, but I use a floppy disk adaptor for them. Only
accessible on Windows
On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 05:00:35PM +0100, Peter Graf wrote:
we have FAT fs support in SMSQ, are you saying it didn't work with
the CompactFlash?
No, I ain't saying that. Just thought it worked only with floppies.
would be worth trying, the code doesn't look like its limited
to floppy. I
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 01:25:04AM -0500, ZN wrote:
2) How far does the design move from the GF implementation to an ISA (even
if only Q40/60 ISA) implementation. This impacts interrupt line routing and
base address selection (which in turn impacts the PnP initialization
values), 8/16 bit
Hi,
happy birthday to you, Dave! :-)
A few answers. Nasta still uses GF for his hardware project, so I use the
same abbreviation from now on :-)
Main reasons why the Q40/Q60 uses an ISA-style extension bus:
1. No QL specific extension cards available, with use for Q40/Q60.
2. Save hardware
On 11 Jan 2002, at 1:28, Dexter wrote:
Does anyone think it might be appropriate to have a separate list for
ql-developers to separate the traffic from ql-users, or are you happy for
these kind of posts filling your list? :o)
oh no, just keep it here - it certainly is appreciated!
Silly question from a hardware ignoramus :
what is a 6 layer (or 4 layer) board ?
I suspect it is to do with the track layour, but all the boards I ever used
were 'double sided' = 2 layer ???
Your in ignorance,
Norman.
PS. Be gentle when you reply !
-
} Silly question from a hardware ignoramus :
}
} what is a 6 layer (or 4 layer) board ?
} I suspect it is to do with the track layour, but all the boards I ever used
} were 'double sided' = 2 layer ???
}
} Your in ignorance,
} Norman.
}
} PS. Be gentle when you reply !
Well, you can also have
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From: Jerome Grimbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 12:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Q40/Q60/??? Ultra IO card
Well, you can also have track inside !
Think of the board as a sandwich.
There is two side per slice of bread.
Therefore, you can have
-Original Message-
From: Norman.Dunbar
Sent: 11 January 2002 11:29
To: ql-users
Cc: Norman.Dunbar
Subject: RE: [ql-users] Q40/Q60/??? Ultra IO card
Silly question from a hardware ignoramus :
what is a 6 layer (or 4 layer) board ?
I suspect it is to do with the track layour
In the GD3 of a future SMSQ incarnation ?
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(...)
A hologram screen would be very nice.
--
QBBS
Firshman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 12:23 PM
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SNIP
This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Tony Firshman wrote:
Hear hear and I really like the hand-routing exercises. Using
auto-routers is a bit like getting a plumber in and never quite liking
what he did, and complaining about the cost.
I remember one board Arnie was working on. I stuck the
in a similar
way. However the via layout can be very complex - ie vias between inner
layers.
-Original Message-
From: Jerome Grimbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 12:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [ql-users] Q40/Q60/??? Ultra IO card
Well, you can also
This post contains information of interest to non-techy people too - it's
well worth a read, imho ;)
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, ZN wrote:
More or less... well, more. The GF does not have IDE, so a few additional
bits will be needed. Also, I think I am using the IDE decode of the chip
for
On 1/11/02 at 3:08 PM Tony Firshman wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Tony Firshman wrote:
Arvid Borretsen (spelling probably worng) even suggested
that one might make pcbs on high quality gloss paper with
an inkjet printer. He even gave me some metal impregnated
ink, but I never got round to
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, ZN wrote:
Ahhh, memories.
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
That's only because the brain cells don't work as well as they used to :-)
(Translation: Yes, you ARE old! :-) ).
And you say this today, Jan 11 2002. My birthday. ;)
*mock scowl*
Dave
On 1/11/02 at 12:23 PM Tony Firshman wrote:
Last time I said this to Nasta, he said he was working on an 1800 x
something screen - (8-)#
I've learned two things early on:
1) Almost any kind of CAD requires all the pixels you can possible get.
2) One gets only one pair of eyes. Invest in thy
On 1/11/02 at 6:23 PM Dexter wrote:
Ahhh, memories.
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
That's only because the brain cells don't work as well as they used to
:-)
(Translation: Yes, you ARE old! :-) ).
And you say this today, Jan 11 2002. My birthday. ;)
*mock scowl*
Happy
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
SNIP
When I do a circuit, I always make a same size cardboard copy, with
stick on tracks. I then add major components/sockets and use this to
test fitting etc. superHermes went to many shows like this, before we
went into
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 at 22:47:57, ZN wrote:
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How do people actually use their machines these days?
Well of course I have machines for testing/development.
However I use one for my BBS and incoming fax and outside temperature
monitoring (linked into the welcome message
Any chance to get USB (for digital still camera for instance, as even fast
RS232 is very slow) ?
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De : Peter Graf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoyé : mercredi 9 janvier 2002 23:07
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Objet : [ql-users] Q40/Q60/??? Ultra IO card
Hi Nasta,
[...] The
Hi Nasta,
MIDI, I2C, and CF would be covered by the existing chips. The Ethernet
would be 10/100 which is very difficult to find as an ISA board. PCMCIA is
a bit of a problem but there are chips for the too.
Just mentioned a few ideas. It could be something else which is attractive
for Q40/Q60
Hi Dave,
Also, I noticed the 68060's are available in a variety of packages now.
What's the preference?
PGA. QFP seems obsolete, so only PGA and BGA are interesting. BGA is very
small, but only useful for volume production.
Peter
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Peter Graf wrote:
PGA. QFP seems obsolete, so only PGA and BGA are interesting. BGA is very
small, but only useful for volume production.
I'm well aware of the thermal advantages of PGA over QFP. The pins move
heat away to the PCB much more efficiently. I don't like BGA
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 09:23:17PM +0100, Peter Graf wrote:
Hi Claude,
Any chance to get USB (for digital still camera for instance, as even fast
RS232 is very slow) ?
Our QDOS/SMSQ software development shortage practically prohibits to work
on USB host hardware. And even the hardware is
I think that FAT support on SMSQ is limited to the QUASI Fat (Fat-
12) for Atari and MS-DOS disks... therefore CF of say 64 Mbytes
(very common and very cheap nowadays...) won't be readable
Phoebus
On 1/10/02 at 9:49 PM Dexter wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Peter Graf wrote:
PGA. QFP seems obsolete, so only PGA and BGA are interesting. BGA is
very
small, but only useful for volume production.
I'm well aware of the thermal advantages of PGA over QFP. The pins move
heat away to the PCB much
On 1/10/02 at 9:19 PM Peter Graf wrote:
Hi Nasta,
Two more plus a CF socket adds hot-swappable CF card capability...
...PC87C307, an AD1816, a 91C96 (or possibly 91C111?). That more or less
covers all the necessary ISA components.
Would it be worth considering to make a Q40/Q60 extension card
On 1/11/02 at 1:28 AM Dexter wrote:
If you have any easier projects I could cut my teeth on,
I'd be happy. I'm not anything like the level of Nasta
and yourself. I'm just well equipped.
See the ideas about a Q40/60 speciffic IO card... :-)
I see them. :o)
Ok, if I can get something
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, ZN wrote:
No need for the mezzanine card, the required chips are found on the GF, in
fact, even that part of the PCB has been designed! Normally I would not be
againgst such a board, but as you know, the GF is intended to be a
semi-SBC.
So all that needs doing is to
On 1/11/02 at 4:17 AM Dexter wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, ZN wrote:
No need for the mezzanine card, the required chips are found on the GF,
in fact, even that part of the PCB has been designed! Normally I would
not be againgst such a board, but as you know, the GF is intended to be
a
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 at 21:59:06, ZN wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Half? Actually, that would be all the tools :-) Oh... you mean an
auto-router? I don't really believe in them :-) Well... actually, I do, but
I simply can't afford one that could do a board better than I can - and
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Peter Graf wrote:
If it had MultiIO/Ethernet as well, it seems to me that such a card would
be a very good preparation for your XY-Fire!
This has me thinking. In what ways does the Q60 ISA implimentation differ
from the PC implementation? The CS8900 is a nice general
On 1/9/02 at 11:22 PM Dexter wrote:
If it had MultiIO/Ethernet as well, it seems to me that such a card
would
be a very good preparation for your XY-Fire!
This has me thinking. In what ways does the Q60 ISA implimentation differ
from the PC implementation? The CS8900 is a nice general purpose
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, ZN wrote:
I was thinking about a SMSC 91C96 - works with 8 and 16 bit busses, has
more buffer memory, and most important: it's 99.9% software compatible with
the 10/100 non-PCI 91C111 (the only non-PCI 'all-in-one' 10/100 I know of)
I've used the SMC91C94, and I've
On 1/10/02 at 4:53 AM Dexter wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, ZN wrote:
I was thinking about a SMSC 91C96 - works with 8 and 16 bit busses, has
more buffer memory, and most important: it's 99.9% software compatible
with the 10/100 non-PCI 91C111 (the only non-PCI 'all-in-one' 10/100 I
know of)
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