[ql-users] SMSQDOS licence

2003-10-16 Thread Arnould Nazarian
Hello, I was there in Eindhoven when there was a small meeting about what to do now that Tony Tebby was ready to show the source code of SMSQ/E. I was the first to speak and I said that IMO 15 years of work of TT should be legally protected so that he could benefit from the development of a

Re: [ql-users] SMSQDOS licence

2003-10-16 Thread Jerome Grimbert
Arnould Nazarian makes some magical things to make me read } Hello, } } I was there in Eindhoven when there was a small meeting about what to do } now that Tony Tebby was ready to show the source code of SMSQ/E. } } I was the first to speak and I said that IMO 15 years of work of TT } should

Re: [ql-users] Isn't it open source?

2003-10-16 Thread wlenerz
On 16 Oct 2003 at 3:31, Phoebus R. Dokos (Φοίβος Ρ. Ντό wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:46:55 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You fail to see the argument. Linux (or anything else) if its license is already a Free Software License by definition it cannot be turned into something that is NOT

Re: [ql-users] Isn't it open source?

2003-10-16 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos ( . )
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:17:30 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Oct 2003 at 3:31, Phoebus R. Dokos ( . wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:46:55 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You fail to see the argument. Linux (or anything else) if its license is already a Free Software License by definition it

Re: [ql-users] QLwIP, Ethernet, USB, Q60 successor

2003-10-16 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Do I hear the sound of rattles being thrown out of prams once more, children? Hey, I got told off when I said that ! -- Roy Wood I remember it being said first time round, couldn't remember who said it. Thought it might be worth throwing into the melting pot once more. Above statement is

Re: [ql-users] error lines

2003-10-16 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Thank you. $C8 is described in my book as number of watched WHEN variables It doesn't matter that it doesn't work on QDOS, it is only for my own debugging use on QPC2. -- Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ql-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [ql-users] error lines

2003-10-16 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Well, it wasn't the error tables I wanted. It was which statement in a line of basic caused the error. Launchpad's accessory programs are written in compiled BASIC and there are some multi-statement lines causing me problems. It would be useful to know the statement which caused the error rather

Re: [ql-users] defragment

2003-10-16 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Not Darren's fault... It's not indeed an Irishman ;-) The fault is all Rich's :-) I was asking him if he knew of any proper (ie not speaking American English) Tweenies DVDs for the daughter (She's a big fan :-) and he told me that there's one with Dilwyn... Needless to say that I made a

Re: [ql-users] DJC 16

2003-10-16 Thread Derek Stewart
Hi Dilwyn, I like 10 pint jokes, that is you need 10 pints of beer to appreciate them. Derek - Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] DJC 16 The reg number DJC seems to have

Re: [ql-users] error lines

2003-10-16 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dilwyn Jones wrote: $C8 is described in my book as number of watched WHEN variables Those area of the BV are pretty OS specific. keys_sbasic is the file you're looking for (although I'm usually nice enough to look them up ;) EVERY programmer should have the keys directory of the SMSQ/E

Re: [ql-users] error lines

2003-10-16 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dilwyn Jones wrote: Well, it wasn't the error tables I wanted. It was which statement in a line of basic caused the error. Launchpad's accessory programs are written in compiled BASIC and there are some multi-statement lines causing me problems. The variables I mentioned probably don't work

[ql-users] QL Hardware.

2003-10-16 Thread John Sadler
Just a thought Would it be possible to adapt the QL Operating system so it could run on an Apple Mac machine? If so could this solve our hardware problems?

[ql-users] Re SMSQ Gwass

2003-10-16 Thread John Sadler
Yes of course there are (and for the Atari, too). I'm not saying that all versions for all machines should be entirelyequal. What I do want, is that all machine should be able to recompile allversions, so that you can use any one of the machines to compile all versions.Why insist in

Re: [ql-users] Linus Torvalds, the QL, and open source

2003-10-16 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], =?utf-8?B?IlBob2VidXMgUi4gRG9rb3MgKM6mzr/Or86yzr/PgiDOoS4gzp3PhM+Mzro=?= =?utf-8?B?zr/Pgiki?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Exactly right but the quest for code uniformity imposed by both the structure of the license and choices make it impossible for SMSQ/E to be that

Re: [ql-users] QL Hardware.

2003-10-16 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos ( . )
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:49:52 +0100, John Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a thought Would it be possible to adapt the QL Operating system so it could run on an Apple Mac machine? If so could this solve our hardware problems? Hi John, what kind of an Apple machine? An older Mac (68K)?

Re: [ql-users] Re SMSQ Gwass

2003-10-16 Thread Marcel Kilgus
John Sadler wrote: I do not get the impression that the new versions of Marcel Kilgus programs will run on older machines. Of course they do. Wolfgang put together a new PE that provides compatibility with the new facilities. Marcel

Re: [ql-users] SMSQDOS licence

2003-10-16 Thread Joachim Van der Auwera
Q1: If SMSQ/E was distributed under this GPL licence and someone would take it to develop a successfull product, TT would have no rights on it. True or false? What do you mean by rights? He would have as much copyright as he has now. As the code would be under GPL licence, there could not be

Re: [ql-users] QL Hardware.

2003-10-16 Thread Joachim Van der Auwera
There could be even an almost direct adaptation by using MicroAPL's tools (PortAsm) url:http://www.microapl.co.uk/ on the QDOS Sources to convert them to PowerPC assembly and then fill in the bits and pieces. I don't think that is true. Much of the power of SMSQ/E comes from some subtile

Re: [ql-users] QLwIP, Ethernet, USB, Q60 successor

2003-10-16 Thread wlenerz
On 16 Oct 2003 at 9:57, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Above statement is formally credited as Copyright (C) Roy Wood sometime in the last 3 years :o| Do you think Roy would ... licence it? Wolfgang

Re: [ql-users] error lines

2003-10-16 Thread wlenerz
On 16 Oct 2003 at 15:52, Marcel Kilgus wrote: Dilwyn Jones wrote: Well, it wasn't the error tables I wanted. It was which statement in a line of basic caused the error. Launchpad's accessory programs are written in compiled BASIC and there are some multi-statement lines causing me