[ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Witchy
Hi folks, I found this list after googling for David Oliver and CST, who hopefully some of you will remember produced the Thor range of machines. Having got my paws on what I think used to be a working Thor WF2 (before someone removed the hard drive) the other week I'm trying to find any info I

Re: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Tony Firshman
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 at 15:42:59, Witchy wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Hi folks, I found this list after googling for David Oliver and CST, who hopefully some of you will remember produced the Thor range of machines. Having got my paws on what I think used to be a working Thor WF2 (before

[ql-users] Wanted: Aurora Tower System

2004-02-03 Thread Tarquin Mills
I want to buy a complete Aurora based Tower System, while on the subject I remeber seeing a Scottish website a few years that sold them but this seems to have dissappeared. -- Tarquin Mills ACCUS (Anglia Classic Computer Users Society)

Re: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Witchy wrote: I found this list after googling for David Oliver and CST, who hopefully some of you will remember produced the Thor range of machines. Having got my paws on what I think used to be a working Thor WF2 (before someone removed the hard drive) the other week I'm trying to find any

RE: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Witchy
Hi Marcel, Thanks for the corrections :) I'll update the page now. Cheers, W -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel Kilgus Sent: 03 February 2004 17:55 To: ql-users Subject: Re: [ql-users] CST Thor Witchy wrote: I found

Re: [ql-users] Recent Quanta

2004-02-03 Thread gwicks
Last Sunday I spent about 90 minutes talking to the QUANTA committee. As you will all know I have been one of QUANTA's most vocal critics during the last 12 months. I attended the meeting at the request of QUANTA and I think it is to their credit that they are prepared to listen to criticism and

Re: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Tarquin Mills
Marcel Kilgus wrote: In true Sinclair style it was marketed long before it was ready, resulting in initial shipments needing an extra ROM 'dongle' out the back because they couldn't fit SuperBASIC into (I think) 32K. 48K. no 32K, 48K=32K ROMs+16K Kludge later 48K ROMs --

Re: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Tony Firshman
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 at 18:54:54, Marcel Kilgus wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Witchy wrote: I found this list after googling for David Oliver and CST, who hopefully some of you will remember produced the Thor range of machines. Having got my paws on what I think used to be a working Thor

Re: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Tarquin Mills wrote: In true Sinclair style it was marketed long before it was ready, resulting in initial shipments needing an extra ROM 'dongle' out the back because they couldn't fit SuperBASIC into (I think) 32K. 48K. no 32K, 48K=32K ROMs+16K Kludge later 48K ROMs Hm, right, sorry

Re: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Arnould Nazarian
I didn't think anyone would even try to squeeze the whole of QDOS/SuperBasic into 32kb... IIRC only the QDOS had to go into 32 kb. Superbasic was supposed to be loaeded from microdrives. Arnould

Re: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Tony Firshman wrote: 48K. yes, 48k - and not just superbasic - the whole O/S. This was the great thing about the QL. Yes, amazing. But still you've always needed more than that to gain a really usable system. Space for WIN driver, FLP driver, maybe RAM disc, the whole extended environment and

Re: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Dave P
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Marcel Kilgus wrote: This puts the seemingly massive current SMSQ/E for QPC in perspective (currently at 287kb. However, last version for QPC1 was 191kb big! A lot has happened since then... the 3 included screen driver alone take up a whole lot of space). Does anyone

Re: [ql-users] Recent Quanta

2004-02-03 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Last Sunday I spent about 90 minutes talking to the QUANTA committee. As you will all know I have been one of QUANTA's most vocal critics during the last 12 months. I attended the meeting at the request of QUANTA and I think it is to

RE: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Witchy
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Firshman Sent: 03 February 2004 19:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] CST Thor windows to update without pausing the programs. The QL multitasking since then has been 'real'.

Re: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Tony Firshman
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 at 19:06:40, Tarquin Mills wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Marcel Kilgus wrote: In true Sinclair style it was marketed long before it was ready, resulting in initial shipments needing an extra ROM 'dongle' out the back because they couldn't fit SuperBASIC into (I think)

Re: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Tony Firshman
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 at 21:04:33, Marcel Kilgus wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tarquin Mills wrote: In true Sinclair style it was marketed long before it was ready, resulting in initial shipments needing an extra ROM 'dongle' out the back because they couldn't fit SuperBASIC into (I think)

Re: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Tony Firshman
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 at 20:49:14, Witchy wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Firshman Sent: 03 February 2004 19:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] CST Thor windows to update without

Re: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Tony Firshman
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 at 21:17:08, Marcel Kilgus wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tony Firshman wrote: 48K. yes, 48k - and not just superbasic - the whole O/S. This was the great thing about the QL. Yes, amazing. But still you've always needed more than that to gain a really usable system.

Re: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Bill Waugh
- Original Message - From: Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ql-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] CST Thor On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Marcel Kilgus wrote: This puts the seemingly massive current SMSQ/E for QPC in perspective

[ql-users] QL - Multitasking or No ? - [was CST Thor]

2004-02-03 Thread John Hitchcock
My two-pennuth on the - and the multitasking wasn't really 'multi' because background tasks were paused. theme. OCR'd from the second page of full colour promotional leaflet The Sinclair QL (A4 - 8 pages and [silver] cover with references 9513 2 84) =

Re: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Bill Waugh wrote: Does anyone remember what was originally intended to occupy the 32768-65535 space? Was that all meant to be available for ROM expansion? Or was some of it intended for some other use? Second screen ? Nah, far off. That's at 160kb ($28000). Marcel

RE: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Witchy
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Firshman Sent: 03 February 2004 21:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] CST Thor Pffft :-) Because I don't know the full ins and outs of any of the machines I've got (other than

[ql-users] Advertising in Quanta Newsletter

2004-02-03 Thread thegilpins
Some of you may have noticed the changes made to the text at the bottom of the Front Inside Cover of Quanta Newsletter. This is the paragraph which outlines the terms under which small ads are published from both our members and non-members. The original text printed up to and including the

Re: [ql-users] Wanted: Aurora Tower System

2004-02-03 Thread thegilpins
Tarquin, Have you considered an Aurora System in a Pandora Case? The two I use are so reliable that I think I could manage without my spare one. email me for details if you are at all interested. John Gilpin. - Original Message - From: Tarquin Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: [ql-users] Recent Quanta

2004-02-03 Thread SMSQ - Jochen Merz
Regarding the QL Today comments: I am very dedicated as long as our readers are. Readers will have noticed that there was never a missing or unplanned late (or early!) issue. If issue release dates were shifted by a week backwards or forwards, then there was always a reason like having it

Re: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Tony Firshman
On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 at 19:41:48, Tony Firshman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) 48K. yes, 48k - and not just superbasic - the whole O/S. This was the great thing about the QL. It was ready to go without having to load the O/S from file, with a full basic supported command line. Mea Culpa. It was

RE: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Witchy
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Waugh Sent: 03 February 2004 22:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] CST Thor If anyone is interested I think Joe Miller still has some Thor stuff ( 2 or 3 machines but maybe not

Re: [ql-users] CST Thor

2004-02-03 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Tony Firshman wrote: When memory became short (often in the pre-Gold Card days) you could see him using the 32k screen area as a working space! Actually there was a bug in exactly this code that more often than not crashed the machine in this situation. I have only fixed it a few months ago

Re: [ql-users] Wanted: Aurora Tower System

2004-02-03 Thread P Witte
John Gilpin writes: Have you considered an Aurora System in a Pandora Case? The two I use are so reliable that I think I could manage without my spare one. Famous last words ? Per