Re: [ql-users] Nightmare scenario

2006-02-22 Thread P Witte
Geoff writes:


 A kind suggestion, but unfortunately it does not help. Supercharge had its
 own extensions rather like the Turbo Toolkit, but when you attempt to load
 these you get an error message not found. Strange but if you then type
 CONTINUE, the program appears to work, but you cannot load, save or print.

 The person concerned is a black box user who has made the effort to 
 upgrade
 to QPC2 so you make the extra effort to try to help him,

How about making the program and toolkit available somewhere so we could 
take a look at it? Id be willing to have a go, and so may others.

Per 
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Re: [ql-users] Nightmare scenario

2006-02-22 Thread gwicks

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From: P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Nightmare scenario



 How about making the program and toolkit available somewhere so we could
 take a look at it? Id be willing to have a go, and so may others.


Thanks to all of you for your offers of help. I may come back to you at a 
later stage. I think the best way of helping the person is to steer him 
towards other more modern programs. The big problem is whether I can convert 
his files into a readable form for other programs. In theory I think this is 
possible, but until I get a few sample files to try I can't be sure in 
practice.

Also at this stage I am not sure of the extent of his QL and PC knowledge, 
but I can enquire into this when I have seen if the above is possible,

Best Wishes,

Geoff Wicks 


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Re: [ql-users] Nightmare scenario

2006-02-22 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I have been a bit negligent in keeping my Turbo downloads page up to 
date. I have now downloaded the latest versions from 
www.jms1.supanet.com (John M Sadler's site, don't confuse with a 
certain German trader) where you can always be sure of getting the 
latest versions, I will add these to my page tomorrow night hopefully.

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- Original Message - 
From: George Gwilt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Nightmare scenario



 On 19 Feb 2006, at 16:07, Malcolm Cadman wrote:


 My boot file for QPC2 has :

 LRESPR windrive$  '_turbo_sms_bin'

 included in it.

 This is the Turbo Toolkit maintained by Dave Gilham, and is the 
 sms
 version, as QPC2 runs on SMSQ/E.

 My version is 3b33.

 I assume that this is available for free download on Dilwyn's web
 site,
 for example.

 The latest version of Turbo Toolkit is 3.37. This is available on
 the SQLUG website www.jms1.supanet.com

 George
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Re: [ql-users] Nightmare scenario

2006-02-21 Thread George Gwilt

On 19 Feb 2006, at 16:07, Malcolm Cadman wrote:


 My boot file for QPC2 has :

 LRESPR windrive$  '_turbo_sms_bin'

 included in it.

 This is the Turbo Toolkit maintained by Dave Gilham, and is the sms
 version, as QPC2 runs on SMSQ/E.

 My version is 3b33.

 I assume that this is available for free download on Dilwyn's web  
 site,
 for example.

The latest version of Turbo Toolkit is 3.37. This is available on   
the SQLUG website www.jms1.supanet.com

George
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Re: [ql-users] Nightmare scenario

2006-02-21 Thread gwicks

- Original Message - 
From: Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Nightmare scenario



 Supercharge was the early version of Turbo, I believe.

 The user probably needs to ensure that a version of the relevant Toolkit
 is also installed and present which may be the one supplied at the time
 the program was charged or compiled.


A kind suggestion, but unfortunately it does not help. Supercharge had its 
own extensions rather like the Turbo Toolkit, but when you attempt to load 
these you get an error message not found. Strange but if you then type 
CONTINUE, the program appears to work, but you cannot load, save or print.

The person concerned is a black box user who has made the effort to upgrade 
to QPC2 so you make the extra effort to try to help him,

Best Wishes,

Geoff


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Re: [ql-users] Nightmare scenario

2006-02-21 Thread Timothy Swenson
If the problem seems to be SMSQ/E on QPCII, then the user could try one of 
the QDOS emulators like Qemulator, UQLX, Qlay, etc.  UQLX is nice but it 
requires a non-trivial install (have to load GTK).  Qemulator is Shareware 
and costs about $40 for a full license.  I have both QPCII and Qemulator 
running on my laptop. Qemulator emulates a QDOS system with a TrumpCard 
and comes with a Minerva rom and maybe other roms.  It also runs SMSQ/E 
(the Gold Card version).  A trial version is downloadable, so the customer 
could try it and see if it works.

Tim Swenson
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Re: [ql-users] Nightmare scenario

2006-02-19 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], gwicks 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

This is a very long shot.

I have been contacted by a Quanta member who has just upgraded to QPC2 and
he asked for help in running a very old program.

The program is so old that it was compiled using Supercharge and the author
tells me the source code is no longer available.

The problem seems to be that QPC2 does not recognise the Supercharge
extensions. As I wrote this really is a long shot, but has anyone experience
of running Supercharged programs on QPC2?

Supercharge was the early version of Turbo, I believe.

The user probably needs to ensure that a version of the relevant Toolkit 
is also installed and present which may be the one supplied at the time 
the program was charged or compiled.

My boot file for QPC2 has :

LRESPR windrive$  '_turbo_sms_bin'

included in it.

This is the Turbo Toolkit maintained by Dave Gilham, and is the sms 
version, as QPC2 runs on SMSQ/E.

My version is 3b33.

I assume that this is available for free download on Dilwyn's web site, 
for example.

So, essentially, it is nothing to do with QPC2, which is just the 
environment.

The user just needs to make sure the old software has all of the 
relevant elements that it may need installed in memory.

Without, the same would occur on a basic black box QL system.

Just for the record, I have had the same problem with Qliberated 
software. These compiled BASIC programs need to have the Qlib_run in 
memory.

Again my boot file has :

LRESPR windrive$  '_Qlib_run'

included in it.

I hope this helps.

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Re: [ql-users] Nightmare scenario

2006-02-19 Thread Tony Firshman
Malcolm Cadman wrote:
  snip
 The problem seems to be that QPC2 does not recognise the Supercharge
 extensions. As I wrote this really is a long shot, but has anyone experience
 of running Supercharged programs on QPC2?
 
 Supercharge was the early version of Turbo, I believe.
It wasn't.  Supercharge was written by Simon Goodwin so he might offer a 
clue.

simon AT studio DOT woden DOT com


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