. (I'd think this would make a
message and a core file, though). Similar questions for tcpserver
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David Dyer-Bennet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
What happened was that the mail was *accepted*, and then bounced
Can't anybody simply send mail to a bogus address on your machine and cause a
bounce? I don't
changed it here yet, though.
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an initial attempt to deliver the message
directly, before queueing it. Since some fairly large proportion of
messages go through on the first try (depends a lot on your address
mix, but 50% to 95%), queueing only the ones that fail of initial
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and do some
benchmarking before committing to something that seems likely to push
the limits of hardware / software technology!)
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* the email traffic they're handling is. Choosing qmail
suggests a belief in its reliability (and probably security; hacking
the InterNIC must be one of the larger numbers of hack-points you can
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I'd enter my contrary data
point into the stream of discourse.
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ms to mean that the *sender's*
MTA (not your qmail installation) was unable to establish a TCP
connection to your system. That seems to indicate much deeper
problems than something in the MTA, to me.
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a couple thousand deliveries.)
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from the technical viewpoint.
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d_message./Remote_host_said:_250_OK/
...
934578193.515841 status: local 0/10 remote 7/8
934578193.516751 end msg 2230
The dots of course represent entries from other messages being delivered at
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Fred Lindberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 17 August 1999 at 13:31:15 -0500
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:39:13 -0500 (CDT), David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
I'm confused by the "completed messages" statistic; is the low value
because it only lists messages for which all deliveries have been
David Dyer-Bennet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 17 August 1999 at 13:33:38 -0500
This particular message got both a local and a remote delivery. The
local isn't important here, but the remote shows us some more; where
it says "to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]", that's the envelope s
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that people have a very high error rate sending to them.
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resend qmail bounces just fine. In general,
email software was resending bounces before there were DSNs, and in
fact DSN isn't very widely supported yet.
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blacklisting based on this test, of course,
they're idiots, and we need to beat them about the head and
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warnings as
these do.
Unfortunately, there is no tool so good and no explanation so clear
that it will not be misused and misunderstood.
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here) anyway. And it's much easier to harvest email addresses from
deja and web pages and list archives than it is to play VRFY games on
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e in big
organization that uses qmail overall". They wouldn't claim to be the
*only* or even *best* way -- but they'd describe a path and some of
the tradeoffs made. This sort of thing would help new users *a lot* I
think. I guess this is back to the "advice" concept I mentioned under
poi
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believe. I've never resorted to this and am not very familiar with
the tools, so I won't try to give details on this approach.
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* servers more than you trust other people's servers, so it's
better for the mail to do its waiting on *your* servers.
If all sysadmins were like that (and good enough to make it a
*reasonable* preference), we wouldn't have a lot of these discussions
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will be *received* (hence
the name). It has nothing to do with sender addresses.
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the one to tackle first. Get ordinary incoming and
outgoing mail working first, and worry about relaying and POP users
later. Until you have a solid foundation, don't start building on it!
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a user stockhau in your /etc/passwd file (since that's the controlling
user for the virtual domain 1asonne.de. And is there a .qmail-default
file, or a .qmail-somebody file, in ~stockhau?
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Thomas Booms EDV [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 23 September 1999 at 13:40:47
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David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
What *user* at www.1areisen.de was the test email addressed to?
yildiz.
Let's
say it's user fred (that is, [EMAIL PROTECTED]); then the local
delivery
in "Life With Qmail"
http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html and in the qmail FAQ that comes
with the distribution. (Is this on the web somewhere, people? I
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easy to go to their controlling directory and see what's
there.
If I had hundreds of aliases in some of them, I'd probably find myself
seriously considering users/assign.
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TP session (and POP if you're suppporting that) regularly, and page
you if it fails; this can notify you *sooner* if something gets
wedged.
(And with qmail you probably want to run matchup from qmailanalog, and
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n I can off the top of my
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attention.
What leaps out at me is that it's about *relaying*, not about
accepting mail for local delivery.
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, or that they've been down or disconnected long
enough for cached DNS to expire and we're waiting for them to come
back up. Hmmm; these two *do* seem like reasons why waiting in this
situation might make sense.
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recurring
problem. But I've never heard a suggestion for how it gets mis-set.
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rd C library because it's insecure and buggy on too
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Todd A. Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 17 October 1999 at 15:43:35 -0700
On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
Check the permissions on /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger. They should look like
this:
prw--w--w- 1 qmails qmail 0 Oct 16 17:39 trigger
uent error not
understood (at least by me).
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Todd A. Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 18 October 1999 at 14:28:10 -0700
On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
I copied the qmail installation basically by doing:-
cp -R /oldvar/qmail/* /var/qmail
Hmmm. I tarred my qmail directory and moved it to another
tcpserver at, and they have to be
configured to set RELAYCLIENT. Details, as I say, in the FAQ and so
forth.
Unless of course I haven't properly understood your setup.
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frustration of seeing incorrect benchmarks about something we care
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#
# Finally, allow anything else, but without relaying
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:allow
And this has to be compiled into a cdb with a command like
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I check them in that order.)
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to use of the system libraries).
Incidentaly, I enjoyed reading your description of the steps you'd
gone through to analyze the problem in your message yesterday.
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Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 10:43:37AM -0600,
David Dyer-Bennet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
True; but if you're modifying existing files, the directory data to
locate it is already
John Conover [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 6 February 2000 at 18:45:16 -
David Dyer-Bennet writes:
John Conover [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 6 February 2000 at 01:21:38 -
I haven't tried it against orbs, but, for the mail server's IP being
123.321.123.321 and a client's
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RBL(2): 11
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s to; off-list might be
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with the suggestion if we
determined it was NOT the problem.
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the usual
qmail-inject environment variables should work (though I haven't tried
this).
I have; it works.
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Subject: Special character mappings for .qmail file names
I can't find, after spending consid
QMAILSHOST to set the envelope sender, which is what then
becomes that "from " header in the received message.
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Peter Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 5 May 2000 at 13:52:17 +1000
On Thu, 4 May 2000, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
Peter Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 5 May 2000 at 11:56:47 +1000
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Kins Orekhov wrote:
Why not just store the logs
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of paranoia
that seems to imply. And I've seen, repeatedly, how it prevents
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overall and to each destination. And it would increase
disk IO. Why would one want to do this?
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on the TCPREMOTEINFO connection attempt
after timeout seconds. Default: 26.
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. Doesn't matter if you convince *us*
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is blowing *amazing* clouds of smoke or MAPS is really
putting the boot in in their private way, in ways I can't approve of.
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Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 23 July 2000 at 02:49:36 -0400
On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 12:37:55AM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
Probably our responses are by now somewhat cryptic, encoded in local
language that's completely clear to those of us who've been through
I can buy and drink both. Ford
and Chrysler are in competition even though people can buy multiple
cars. And so forth.
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Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 23 July 2000 at 21:43:27 -0400
On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 07:36:55PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
By using the word "competing", you're implying that admins have a choice of
running one or the other, but not both. This isn't the cas
pen relays?
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(and none of the causes were ORBS probes),
but a more macho admin wouldn't want to do that of course.
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the standard C library, so
it's not easy to change this behavior without potentially compromising
security.
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e mail log for the next day isn't any bigger than
normal. (The log two days later is big again with the bounces :-) ).
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Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 31 July 2000 at 11:20:48 -0600
David Dyer-Bennet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really? If I want to tail a log file, eg, I go like this:
tail ../someservice/current | tai64nlocal
and it all looks fine for humans
or
fin. Now I'm confused.)
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he primary.
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via the sendmail
wrapper). See the discussion of environment variables in man
qmail-inject.
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who can do both parts might be more convenient for you.
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wolfgang zeikat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 5 August 2000 at 18:52:41 +0200
Also sprach David Dyer-Bennet [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05.08.2000:
So if you want to do your own bounce with your own
message, *please* take the trouble to do it in a common enough
bounce
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