Re: Machine Specs

2000-04-12 Thread John White
On Wed, Apr 12, 2000 at 04:57:37AM +, Juan E Suris wrote: John White writes: BTW, when you're ready to scale, check out cubix for their SBC based chassis. 8 machines in 7U! Add redundant power, a layer 4 switch, and a multi-host RAID 1+0 to act as the queue, and you're cooking.

Re: Machine Specs

2000-04-11 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 07:20:03PM -0400, blue wrote: I am looking at purchasing a new machine to set-up qmail. We are estimating a build up to appx 250,000 emails a day. What kind of system (PC) would you recommend for this kind of traffic ? A simple PII/350 with 128mbyte will do just

Re: Machine Specs

2000-04-11 Thread markd
On Tue, Apr 11, 2000 at 03:25:45PM +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote: On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 07:20:03PM -0400, blue wrote: I am looking at purchasing a new machine to set-up qmail. We are estimating a build up to appx 250,000 emails a day. What kind of system (PC) would you recommend for

Re: Machine Specs

2000-04-11 Thread Jeff Commando Sherwin
Im also in the process of spec'in out some machines. Hmm. Would that depend on whether the 250K are mostly in or outbound? If my mails are mostly inbound, (usr dirs over nfs). It might also depend on what they are using to access the email, if it's qpopper and /var/mail then I'd want

Re: Machine Specs

2000-04-11 Thread markd
On Tue, Apr 11, 2000 at 12:30:49PM -0400, Jeff Commando Sherwin wrote: Im also in the process of spec'in out some machines. Hmm. Would that depend on whether the 250K are mostly in or outbound? If my mails are mostly inbound, (usr dirs over nfs). It might also depend on what

RE: Machine Specs

2000-04-11 Thread Greg Owen
I'd think that the CPU and memory will be fine, but I'd suggest he gets a couple of spindles so that he can separate out the queue. ah! ok. this is the big question. multiple queues. He said multiple spindles, not multiple queues. Multiple spindles simply means that

Re: Machine Specs

2000-04-11 Thread Jeff Commando Sherwin
I think you need to give us a better idea of the big picture. The first post made it sound like a single machine, now you talk about NFS servers, multiple IP addresses, separate access server, etc. Fair enough, I thought i was going to be able to sneak this one in as a small question. I

Re: Machine Specs

2000-04-11 Thread markd
On Tue, Apr 11, 2000 at 01:01:33PM -0400, Jeff Commando Sherwin wrote: I think you need to give us a better idea of the big picture. The first post made it sound like a single machine, now you talk about NFS servers, multiple IP addresses, separate access server, etc. Fair enough, I

Re: Machine Specs

2000-04-11 Thread Jeff Commando Sherwin
Ok, some of this is above my head (which obviously needs to be resolved :) ), but maybe i can clarify more here. For inbound SMTP you don't need a load balancer or layer 4 switch, simply use multiple MX entries. Let the DNS do the "load balancing" and let the sending MTAs figure out when a

Re: Machine Specs

2000-04-11 Thread markd
For inbound SMTP you don't need a load balancer or layer 4 switch, simply use multiple MX entries. Let the DNS do the "load balancing" and let the sending MTAs figure out when a server isn't available. If you have internal people sending to SMTP servers, that's a case that can

Re: Machine Specs

2000-04-11 Thread Jeff Commando Sherwin
Is the front end SMTP server doing anything more than relaying? If it's only relaying then take it out of the picture. It's only adding a point of failure for you. no, the front end is not smtp relaying its like an f5 box, essentially port forwarding to one of many internal ip addresses.

Re: Machine Specs

2000-04-11 Thread markd
On Tue, Apr 11, 2000 at 02:51:50PM -0400, Jeff Commando Sherwin wrote: Is the front end SMTP server doing anything more than relaying? If it's only relaying then take it out of the picture. It's only adding a point of failure for you. no, the front end is not smtp relaying its like

Re: Machine Specs

2000-04-11 Thread Jeff Commando Sherwin
Right. I don't see much point in it then for inbound SMTP. Let the DNS and MX prefs do the job they were designed to do. IP address space isn't *that* expensive. its just that our current situation does not yeild me extra ip space. So I dont have access to it. Therefore, Im useing an f5

Re: Machine Specs

2000-04-11 Thread John White
On Tue, Apr 11, 2000 at 04:29:23PM -0400, Jeff Commando Sherwin wrote: Right. I don't see much point in it then for inbound SMTP. Let the DNS and MX prefs do the job they were designed to do. IP address space isn't *that* expensive. its just that our current situation does not yeild

Re: Machine Specs

2000-04-11 Thread Bruce Guenter
On Tue, Apr 11, 2000 at 08:50:43PM -0700, John White wrote: tcpserver lets you do this in a couple different ways. First off, you can set up your tcpserver to load balance qmail instances by originating IP address. This isn't that attractive unless you have specific stats in hand on

Re: Machine Specs

2000-04-11 Thread Juan E Suris
John White writes: BTW, when you're ready to scale, check out cubix for their SBC based chassis. 8 machines in 7U! Add redundant power, a layer 4 switch, and a multi-host RAID 1+0 to act as the queue, and you're cooking. This sounds interesting to me. What would be a good example of a

Machine Specs

2000-04-10 Thread blue
I am looking at purchasing a new machine to set-up qmail. We are estimating a build up to appx 250,000 emails a day. What kind of system (PC) would you recommend for this kind of traffic ? thanks ! td