Re: [ntp:questions] PPS only configuration

2013-02-21 Thread Uwe Klein
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Re: [ntp:questions] PPS only configuration

2013-02-21 Thread Mike S
On 2/21/2013 12:31 AM, unruh wrote: We do not need artificial obstacles to communication-- there are enough real obstacles out there. Yet you use the lame un...@invalid.ca address to post with. Seems that obstacles are just fine with you, provided they're for your convenience.

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS only configuration

2013-02-21 Thread Brian Utterback
Hate to get into a religious war here, but there is a hard, factual standard here. RFC2646 which defines the MIME type text/plain format parameter. If you are reading a message with content type text/plain and format set to flowed, and a non-quoted line of words appears that is too long (for

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS only configuration

2013-02-21 Thread Brian Utterback
Having said that, I note that Ed Mischanko's mailer is not sending text/plain flowed. So unruh has a point in that case. On 2/21/2013 8:38 AM, Brian Utterback wrote: Hate to get into a religious war here, but there is a hard, factual standard here. RFC2646 which defines the MIME type

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS only configuration

2013-02-21 Thread Mike S
On 2/21/2013 8:52 AM, Brian Utterback wrote: Having said that, I note that Ed Mischanko's mailer is not sending text/plain flowed. So unruh has a point in that case. On 2/21/2013 8:38 AM, Brian Utterback wrote: Hate to get into a religious war here, but there is a hard, factual standard here.

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS only configuration

2013-02-21 Thread Brian Utterback
I know that it is an RFC, but it does say that it is standards track and there doesn't seem to be a full standard already that covers the same info. However, STD11 is not helpful in this argument. It is not covering the presentation of the message, only its transport. I don't believe that

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS only configuration

2013-02-21 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
Brian Utterback wrote: RFC2646 Obsoleted by RFC3676 -- E-Mail Sent to this address blackl...@anitech-systems.com will be added to the BlackLists. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS only configuration

2013-02-21 Thread Brian Utterback
On 02/21/13 14:45, E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists wrote: Brian Utterback wrote: RFC2646 Obsoleted by RFC3676 Missed that because they changed the title. However, the new RFC doesn't change the behavior I was referring to. -- blu Always code as if the guy

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS only configuration

2013-02-21 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
Brian Utterback wrote: RFC 1305 Obsoleted by RFC5905. -- E-Mail Sent to this address blackl...@anitech-systems.com will be added to the BlackLists. ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS only configuration

2013-02-21 Thread Mike S
On 2/21/2013 2:16 PM, Brian Utterback wrote: Now, if you don't like RFC2646, you might say it's not a standard and that you won't follow it, but I don't think you should get a lot of sympathy, just as if you decided that you were going to ignore RFC 1305 because it isn't a standard. 2646 has

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS only configuration

2013-02-21 Thread unruh
On 2013-02-21, Mike S mi...@flatsurface.com wrote: On 2/21/2013 8:52 AM, Brian Utterback wrote: Having said that, I note that Ed Mischanko's mailer is not sending text/plain flowed. So unruh has a point in that case. On 2/21/2013 8:38 AM, Brian Utterback wrote: Hate to get into a religious

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS only configuration

2013-02-21 Thread Mike S
On 2/21/2013 7:00 PM, unruh wrote: Note that rmc 5322 is 2008. Many of the news readers are older than that. What's your point? Prior to 2008, RFC822 (1982) applied, which places no restrictions on line length. Or, if you prefer, RFC2046 (MIME, from 1996), which also makes no restrictions.

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS only configuration

2013-02-21 Thread Brian Utterback
On 2/21/2013 7:00 PM, unruh wrote: Note that rmc 5322 is 2008. Many of the news readers are older than that. Another reason to refer to the RFC I quoted, which dates back to the 90's. So, it would appear that is the poster uses format=flowed test, then your reader should handle it. But if

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS only configuration

2013-02-21 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
Mike S wrote: unruh wrote: Note that rmc 5322 is 2008. Many of the news readers are older than that. What's your point? Prior to 2008, RFC822 (1982) applied, which places no restrictions on line length. Or, if you prefer, RFC2046 (MIME, from 1996), which also makes no restrictions. We

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS only configuration

2013-02-21 Thread unruh
On 2013-02-22, Brian Utterback brian.utterb...@oracle.com wrote: On 2/21/2013 7:00 PM, unruh wrote: Note that rmc 5322 is 2008. Many of the news readers are older than that. Another reason to refer to the RFC I quoted, which dates back to the 90's. So, it would appear that is the poster

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS only configuration

2013-02-21 Thread unruh
On 2013-02-22, Mike S mi...@flatsurface.com wrote: On 2/21/2013 7:00 PM, unruh wrote: Note that rmc 5322 is 2008. Many of the news readers are older than that. What's your point? Prior to 2008, RFC822 (1982) applied, which places no restrictions on line length. Or, if you prefer, RFC2046