Hola.

Los mensajes de abajo son parte de la segunda etapa, de un seminario 
virtual sobre el tema Democratizacion de la Ciencia, del Concejo 
Britanico.

http://science.britishcouncil.org

Ligia
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Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:24:51 -0000
Subject: [Modern science] Science and politics
From: Mick Fealty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Democraticscience (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From:

Saliem Fakir 
Director 
IUCN-SA 
South Africa

Saliem suggests some practical steps

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I think the issue of democracy and science can and must be viewed in the
following manner:

1. Create a climate for creative endeavour amongst scientists, so that all
theories and views can be tested, and encouraged. Something where there is
still great room for improvement. 

2. Ensure that there is at least a democratic process around the decisions
as to what the priority scientific issues are, so as to direct public funds
towards work that is relevant and benefits the public. 

3. Ensure that with regard to protecting the public interest, especially on
matters of ethics, there is democratic oversight - more so when scientific
work or products are likely to fundamentally affect society.

It is in areas covered by points 2 and 3 that I would think democracy can
play a very positive role in protecting the interest of the public and
ensure that real benefits from science can be derived.

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 08:47:14 -0000
Subject: [Modern science] Science and politics
From: Mick Fealty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Democraticscience (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From:

Suresh K. Mahajan
Molecular Biology and Agriculture Division 
Bhabha Atomic Research Centre 
Mumbai
India

Suresh examines Saliem's suggested practical steps

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 The three point action plan suggested by Saliem Fakir to regulate the
interaction between science and society provides a reasonable way to
safeguard the interests of both the 'partners', as Eric Sandmann would call
them. There is, however, an apparent contradiction between his suggestions 1
and 3.  

An environment in which scientists can test all ideas and theories may be
inconsistent with democratic supervision of scientific work from outside
science. Such supervision is certainly desirable in the case those
applications of scientific knowledge which may affect society adversely, say
by degrading the environment to unacceptable levels or by raising armies of
brawny clones.

However, outside control of work related to understanding nature may stifle
science and deprive it of one of the major roles that it has played
historically, namely, evolving our worldview and belief systems to make them
consistent with reality and discarding those based on some arbitrary,
imaginary formulations invented when much less was known about reality. 

Not permitting scientists to explore ideas that may contradict these
formulations, and the ethics based on them, may stunt the growth of
humanity. History would suggest that this has actually happened in the past.
I wonder if there is a reasonable way to deal with this problem. 

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:59:59 -0000
Subject: [Modern science] Science and politics
From: Mick Fealty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Democraticscience (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From:

Mick Fealty
Moderator
UK

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This recent press release from President Bush is a practical demonstration
of the complexity of the politics of science in democratic society:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/03/20010314.html

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The European Commission is preparing a White Paper on European Governance:
"Enhancing Democracy in the European Union", due to be published in the
summer 2001.  They are currently seeking the views of policy-makers, experts
and the public, including representative groups, on a number of issues
connected with the topic using a web-based questionnaire.  

You don't need to be based within the EU, though some of the questions are
questions.  If you are interested in participating, background information
and the questionnaire can be found at:
http://europa.eu.int/comm/research/improving/intro_en.html.  










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