Re: [R] indicator or deviation contrasts in log-linear modelling

2009-02-19 Thread Michael Friendly
Maja, The need to interpret parameters in log-linear models (and therefore, the need to understand how the model is parameterized) often vanishes if you visualize the fitted model or the residuals in a mosaic display. e.g., ucb1 asserts Admit is jointly independent of Gender and Dept --- fits

Re: [R] indicator or deviation contrasts in log-linear modelling

2009-02-19 Thread Charles C. Berry
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, maiya wrote: I realise that in the case of loglin the parameters are clacluated post festum from the cell frequencies, however other programmes that use Newton-Raphson as opposed to IPF work the other way round, right? In which case one would expect the output of

[R] indicator or deviation contrasts in log-linear modelling

2009-02-18 Thread maiya
I am fairly new to log-linear modelling, so as opposed to trying to fit modells, I am still trying to figure out how it actually works - hence I am looking at the interpretation of parameters. Now it seems most people skip this part and go directly to measuring model fit, so I am finding very few

Re: [R] indicator or deviation contrasts in log-linear modelling

2009-02-18 Thread Charles C. Berry
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, maiya wrote: I am fairly new to log-linear modelling, so as opposed to trying to fit modells, I am still trying to figure out how it actually works - hence I am looking at the interpretation of parameters. Now it seems most people skip this part and go directly to

Re: [R] indicator or deviation contrasts in log-linear modelling

2009-02-18 Thread maiya
I realise that in the case of loglin the parameters are clacluated post festum from the cell frequencies, however other programmes that use Newton-Raphson as opposed to IPF work the other way round, right? In which case one would expect the output of parameters to be limited to the particular