Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-09 Thread Dieter Menne
Michal Kulich wrote: This works. Not entirely invisible but not a big deal about that. The R code run within Rterm is options(help_type=html,help.ports=6800) help.start() library(audio) wait(-1) I tried to run your code with System.sleep(10) instead of wait(-1) inside Winserv,

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-08 Thread Dieter Menne
Duncan Murdoch wrote: What's so hard about leaving an R session running, and using bookmarks as Dieter described? It pollutes my space, and I am a Window-closing maniac, so it won't survive the next attack.

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-08 Thread Duncan Murdoch
Michal Kulich wrote: On 7.1.2010 20:22, Duncan Murdoch wrote: A more useful example than ls() would be methods(). I think it would be nice to have a list of methods included in the man page for a generic function, and links to their pages if they have their own man pages. You might want

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-08 Thread Duncan Murdoch
Dieter Menne wrote: Duncan Murdoch wrote: What's so hard about leaving an R session running, and using bookmarks as Dieter described? It pollutes my space, and I am a Window-closing maniac, so it won't survive the next attack.

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-08 Thread Dieter Menne
Hi, Duncan, If that works, writing up instructions would be a useful contribution. It was always a bit of a mess, and after 15 minutes this morning I had to go. So I hoped someone else would jump the wagon. Dieter -- View this message in context:

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-08 Thread hadley wickham
I see. Well, I never lacked any of these capabilities... Please understand that people who use R to do their work may have different objectives than the developers - and they form the majority of R users. Well how about a documentation system that could look back over your history and notice

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Michal Kulich
On 7.1.2010 9:49, Dieter Menne wrote: Thanks for that code. I fully agree that the current help system is a step back. For stable bookmarking, my workaround is to put options(help.ports=6800) into the profile, so I can created links like

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
Michal Kulich wrote: On 7.1.2010 9:49, Dieter Menne wrote: Thanks for that code. I fully agree that the current help system is a step back. For stable bookmarking, my workaround is to put options(help.ports=6800) into the profile, so I can created links like

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Michael Friendly
Michal Kulich wrote: On 7.1.2010 9:49, Dieter Menne wrote: I am sorry to say that the new dynamic help is a HUGE nuisance to me. Had to revert back to R 2.9 because of that :-(. Michal I too have reverted to 2.9.2 on Win XP because I find html help to be far less convenient than the

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 07/01/2010 9:05 AM, Michael Friendly wrote: Michal Kulich wrote: On 7.1.2010 9:49, Dieter Menne wrote: I am sorry to say that the new dynamic help is a HUGE nuisance to me. Had to revert back to R 2.9 because of that :-(. Michal I too have reverted to 2.9.2 on Win XP because I find

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Michal Kulich
On 7.1.2010 12:18, Duncan Murdoch wrote: You don't need Rgui, you could run Rterm, which would have a smaller footprint. It's not very hard to start it and minimize it, but if you want it running invisibly, you'll need to figure out how to hide the icon. This works. Not entirely invisible but

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Duncan Murdoch murd...@stats.uwo.ca wrote: On 07/01/2010 9:05 AM, Michael Friendly wrote: Michal Kulich wrote: On 7.1.2010 9:49, Dieter Menne wrote: I am sorry to say that the new dynamic help is a HUGE nuisance to me. Had to revert back to R 2.9 because

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Michal Kulich
On 7.1.2010 15:52, Duncan Murdoch wrote: Not necessarily. The current help system can display information about the current session, e.g. the result of ls(), as a simple example. But if you use a single background session you won't get relevant information. Duncan Murdoch Sorry, I must

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 07/01/2010 9:47 AM, Michal Kulich wrote: On 7.1.2010 12:18, Duncan Murdoch wrote: You don't need Rgui, you could run Rterm, which would have a smaller footprint. It's not very hard to start it and minimize it, but if you want it running invisibly, you'll need to figure out how to hide the

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 07/01/2010 9:51 AM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Duncan Murdoch murd...@stats.uwo.ca wrote: On 07/01/2010 9:05 AM, Michael Friendly wrote: Michal Kulich wrote: On 7.1.2010 9:49, Dieter Menne wrote: I am sorry to say that the new dynamic help is a HUGE

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 07/01/2010 10:00 AM, Michal Kulich wrote: On 7.1.2010 15:52, Duncan Murdoch wrote: Not necessarily. The current help system can display information about the current session, e.g. the result of ls(), as a simple example. But if you use a single background session you won't get relevant

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Jonathan Baron
For what it is worth, I would gladly sacrifice this capability in order to be able to consult all my R help pages through a Firefox bookmark to the packages listing (which is what I used to do, and will do again, when I get time to either rebuild from source or get the forthcoming Fedora RPM,

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 07/01/2010 11:36 AM, Jonathan Baron wrote: For what it is worth, I would gladly sacrifice this capability in order to be able to consult all my R help pages through a Firefox bookmark to the packages listing (which is what I used to do, and will do again, when I get time to either rebuild

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Kevin Wright
Well, among other things, if my global environment becomes cluttered/corrupt/etc and I quit R, then restart R, the links in my browser are now dead. I have to close all the tabs and call help to open them again. Also, the R-supplied java tool for searching help is ancient and underwhelming. A

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 07/01/2010 2:16 PM, Kevin Wright wrote: Well, among other things, if my global environment becomes cluttered/corrupt/etc and I quit R, then restart R, the links in my browser are now dead. You weren't following Dieter's instructions, then. I have to close all the tabs and call help to

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Kevin Wright
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Duncan Murdoch murd...@stats.uwo.ca wrote: On 07/01/2010 10:00 AM, Michal Kulich wrote: On 7.1.2010 15:52, Duncan Murdoch wrote: Not necessarily. The current help system can display information about the current session, e.g. the result of ls(), as a simple

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread hadley wickham
What I'd really like is for someone who has good taste to redesign the look of the whole system.  I think one or two people are working on packages to do this, and I'd much rather spend time providing whatever low level support they need, rather than doing it myself. Have you looked at adding

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread hadley wickham
 I have to close all the tabs and call help to open them again.  Also, the R-supplied java tool for searching help is ancient and underwhelming. Then contribute a new one. And this would be pretty easy to, since you can program it in R. There are heaps of possibilities - you could use do

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 07/01/2010 2:58 PM, Kevin Wright wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Duncan Murdoch murd...@stats.uwo.ca wrote: On 07/01/2010 10:00 AM, Michal Kulich wrote: On 7.1.2010 15:52, Duncan Murdoch wrote: Not necessarily. The current help system can display information about the current

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-07 Thread Michal Kulich
On 7.1.2010 20:22, Duncan Murdoch wrote: A more useful example than ls() would be methods(). I think it would be nice to have a list of methods included in the man page for a generic function, and links to their pages if they have their own man pages. You might want to list all installed

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-06 Thread Steve Rowley
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:38:31 +0100 From: Uwe Ligges lig...@statistik.tu-dortmund.de Steve Rowley wrote: Is there any way to do this from the Windows binary .zip files, or from the installations generated thereby? Well, internally, you can do somewthing as R's help system does, but it

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2010-01-02 Thread Uwe Ligges
Steve Rowley wrote: Heinz Tuechler wrote: At 21:40 22.12.2009, Steve Rowley wrote: (a) how to build the static HTML help pages of all currently installed packages under Windows, [...] At least two ways: Way 1: reinstall all those packages from sources using R CMD INSTALL --html Way

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2009-12-27 Thread Heinz Tuechler
Instead of an answer, may I add question c) can someone state that it is impossible to generate static HTML help pages under Windows? At 21:40 22.12.2009, Steve Rowley wrote: I upgraded to R2.10.1pat and discovered, along with everybody else, that static HTML pages are no longer the default.

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2009-12-27 Thread Uwe Ligges
Heinz Tuechler wrote: Instead of an answer, may I add question c) can someone state that it is impossible to generate static HTML help pages under Windows? No, it is not impossible, see my answers below. At 21:40 22.12.2009, Steve Rowley wrote: I upgraded to R2.10.1pat and discovered,

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2009-12-27 Thread Jonathan Baron
Slightly (but not completely) irrelevant comment. The next version of the R rpm packaged by Fedora WILL include static web pages by default (so I'm told by Tom [Spot] Callaway). This also goes for the R packages that they package as RPMs. This is irrelevant for Windows users of course, but

Re: [R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2009-12-27 Thread Steve Rowley
Heinz Tuechler wrote: At 21:40 22.12.2009, Steve Rowley wrote: (a) how to build the static HTML help pages of all currently installed packages under Windows, [...] At least two ways: Way 1: reinstall all those packages from sources using R CMD INSTALL --html Way 2: go to the man

[R] Building static HTML help pages in R 2.10.x on Windows

2009-12-22 Thread Steve Rowley
I upgraded to R2.10.1pat and discovered, along with everybody else, that static HTML pages are no longer the default. Fine; my tastes would go the other way, but I'm happy to adapt. However, I'd still like to build static HTML pages (for stable bookmarking, use when R is not running, etc.). I'm