Rolf == Rolf Turner r.tur...@auckland.ac.nz writes:
My impression --- and I could be wrong --- is that
physicists understanding of randomness is very narrow and
constrained. They tend to think along the lines of chaotic
dynamical systems (although perhaps not consciously;
On 5/03/2009, at 8:48 PM, Wacek Kusnierczyk wrote:
Rolf Turner wrote:
Sports scores are random variables. You don't know a priori what the
scores are
going to be, do you? (Well, if you do, you must be able to make a
*lot* of money
betting on games!) After the game is over they aren't
code.
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On 6/03/2009, at 10:38 AM, Mark Difford wrote:
Hi Rolf,
... From the beginner's point of view it is useful to think of
random
variables ...
Who, exactly, is the beginner ?
The OP --- well, not the OP, but the person who introduced this
line of discussion to this
Rolf Turner wrote:
I certainly never said that no statisticians are arrogant; some
of them may well be. I never met one, but. :-)
this can't be true.
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Rolf == Rolf Turner r.tur...@auckland.ac.nz writes:
On 4/03/2009, at 11:50 AM, Michael A. Miller wrote:
Sports scores are not statistics, they are measurements
(counts) of the number of times each team scores. There
is no sampling and vanishingly small possibility of
On 5/03/2009, at 4:54 AM, Michael A. Miller wrote:
Rolf == Rolf Turner r.tur...@auckland.ac.nz writes:
On 4/03/2009, at 11:50 AM, Michael A. Miller wrote:
Sports scores are not statistics, they are measurements
(counts) of the number of times each team scores. There
is no sampling and
The purpose of the subject or discipline ``statistics'' is in essence
to answer the question ``could the phenomenon we observed have arisen
simply by chance?'', or to quantify the *uncertainty* in any estimate
that we make of a quantity.
May I take strong issue with this characterization? It is
On 5/03/2009, at 12:13 PM, Bert Gunter wrote:
The purpose of the subject or discipline ``statistics'' is in essence
to answer the question ``could the phenomenon we observed have arisen
simply by chance?'', or to quantify the *uncertainty* in any estimate
that we make of a quantity.
May I
I mostly agree with you, Rolf (and Gunter). I would challenge your
joint use of the term scientists. My quibble arises not regarding
biomedical practitioners (who may be irredeemable as a group) but
rather regarding physicists. At least in that domain, I believe those
domain experts are
On 5/03/2009, at 3:06 PM, David Winsemius wrote:
I mostly agree with you, Rolf (and Gunter). I would challenge your
joint use of the term scientists. My quibble arises not regarding
biomedical practitioners (who may be irredeemable as a group) but
rather regarding physicists. At least in that
Rolf Turner wrote:
Sports scores are random variables. You don't know a priori what the
scores are
going to be, do you? (Well, if you do, you must be able to make a
*lot* of money
betting on games!) After the game is over they aren't random any
more; they're
just numbers. But that
Dieter == Dieter Menne dieter.me...@menne-biomed.de writes:
And, since my son asked me and I am basketball ignorant:
Why are basketball scores mostly much too close to
equality? The arguments (loose power when leading) might
suggest that 2:0 might not be significant, but
On 4/03/2009, at 11:50 AM, Michael A. Miller wrote:
Dieter == Dieter Menne dieter.me...@menne-biomed.de writes:
And, since my son asked me and I am basketball ignorant:
Why are basketball scores mostly much too close to
equality? The arguments (loose power when leading) might
suggest that
Dieter Menne wrote:
And, since my son asked me and I am basketball ignorant: Why are
basketball scores mostly much too close to equality? The arguments
(loose power when leading)
Characteristic of the game. Possession of the ball changes rapidly and
the probability of scoring is much higher
Dear List,
I registered for the useR conference in Rennes today; half an hour after the
confirmation I received a first requested newsletter from a company selling a
product named Inference for R.
This coincidence might be spurious. Or not, depending on frequency.
Dieter
On 24/02/2009 8:06 AM, Dieter Menne wrote:
Dear List,
I registered for the useR conference in Rennes today; half an hour after the
confirmation I received a first requested newsletter from a company selling a
product named Inference for R.
This coincidence might be spurious. Or not, depending
Dieter Menne wrote:
Dear List,
I registered for the useR conference in Rennes today; half an hour after the
confirmation I received a first requested newsletter from a company selling
a
product named Inference for R.
This coincidence might be spurious. Or not, depending on frequency.
I received it too without the conference registration.
2009/2/24 Wacek Kusnierczyk waclaw.marcin.kusnierc...@idi.ntnu.no:
Dieter Menne wrote:
Dear List,
I registered for the useR conference in Rennes today; half an hour after the
confirmation I received a first requested newsletter from a
The same company caused a complaint about a year ago
https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2008-March/157423.html
The mailing company they are using (iContact.com) claims to have a tough
antispam policy. So does everyone, of course.
-thomas
Thomas Lumley Assoc.
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The same company caused a complaint about a year ago
https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2008-March/157423.html
The mailing company they are using (iContact.com) claims
Cheers for that information; I've just registered for the useR meeting
in London and then about 10 minutes later got that same bit of spam
too which made me a wee bit suspicious.
On 24 Feb, 13:39, Thomas Lumley tlum...@u.washington.edu wrote:
The same company caused a complaint about a year
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Martin Maechler
maech...@stat.math.ethz.ch wrote:
TL == Thomas Lumley tlum...@u.washington.edu
on Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:39:33 -0800 (PST) writes:
TL The same company caused a complaint about a year ago
TL
Tony Breyal tony.breyal at googlemail.com writes:
Cheers for that information; I've just registered for the useR meeting
in London and then about 10 minutes later got that same bit of spam
too which made me a wee bit suspicious.
Welcome in the Fooled by Randomness society. 2:0 is a bit away from
And, since my son asked me and I am basketball ignorant: Why are
basketball scores mostly much too close to equality? The arguments
(loose power when leading)
Ted.Harding at manchester.ac.uk writes:
Or: Once you are in the lead, become much more defensive against
attacking play by
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