Of Desmond D Campbell
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 3:19 PM
To: Emmanuel Charpentier
Cc: r-help@r-project.org; Desmond Campbell
Subject: Re: [R] logistic regression in an incomplete dataset
Dear Emmanuel,
Thank you.
Yes I broadly agree with what you say.
I think ML is a better strategy than complete case
Dear Thomas,
Thanks for your reply.
Yes you are quite right (your example) complete case does not require
MCAR, however as well as being a bit less robust than ML it is throwing
away data.
Missing Data in Clinical Studies, Geert Molenberghs, Michael Kenward,
have a nice section in chapter 3
Dear all,
I want to do a logistic regression.
So far I've only found out how, in a dataset of complete cases.
I'd like to do logistic regression via max likelihood, using all the study
cases (complete and incomplete). Can you help?
I'm using glm() with family=binomial(logit).
If any covariate in
Dear all,
I want to do a logistic regression.
So far I've only found out how to do that in R, in a dataset of complete cases.
I'd like to do logistic regression via max likelihood, using all the study
cases (complete and incomplete). Can you help?
I'm using glm() with family=binomial(logit).
Dear all,
I want to do a logistic regression.
So far I've only found out how to do that in R, in a dataset of complete
cases.
I'd like to do logistic regression via max likelihood, using all the
study cases (complete and incomplete). Can you help?
I'm using glm() with family=binomial(logit).
Hello Desmond,
The only way to not drop cases with incomplete data would be some sort
of imputation for the missing covariates.
JoAnn
Desmond Campbell wrote:
Dear all,
I want to do a logistic regression.
So far I've only found out how to do that in R, in a dataset of complete cases.
I'd
Dear Desmond,
a somewhat analogous question has been posed recently (about 2 weeks
ago) on the sig-mixed-model list, and I tried (in two posts) to give
some elements of information (and some bibliographic pointers). To
summarize tersely :
- a model of information missingness (i. e. *why* are
Dear JoAnn,
Thank you very much for your reply.
If that is the case I am surprised.
I would have though ML could incorporate study cases with some missingness
in them.
Furthermore I believe ML estimates should generally be more robust than
complete case based estimates.
For unbiased estimates I
Dear Emmanuel,
Thank you.
Yes I broadly agree with what you say.
I think ML is a better strategy than complete case, because I think its
estimates will be more robust than complete case.
For unbiased estimates I think
ML requires the data is MAR,
complete case requires the data is MCAR
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, Desmond D Campbell wrote:
Dear Emmanuel,
Thank you.
Yes I broadly agree with what you say.
I think ML is a better strategy than complete case, because I think its
estimates will be more robust than complete case.
For unbiased estimates I think
ML requires the data is MAR,
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