Hi

I would like to use arima () to find the best arima model for y time series. The default in arima apparently is to use conditional sum of squares to find the starting values and then ML (as described on the help page). Now using the default may lead to error messages saying: "non-stationary ar part in CSS". When changeing the default to "ML" only the minimization works. As far as I understand, arima doesn't require stationarity, but apparently CSS does. Can anyone tell me what exactly the css method does? And why is CSS-ML the default in R? Out of efficiency reasons? Because ML and ML-CSS gives the exact same estimates when applied to the same data. I tried to find out on google but I couldnt' find anything usefull or understandable to me as a non-statistician.

Here some data that causes the error message:

X<-6.841067, 6.978443, 6.984755, 7.007225, 7.161198, 7.169790, 7.251534, 7.336429, 7.356600, 7.413271, 7.404165, 7.480869, 7.498686, 7.429809, 7.302747, 7.168251, 7.124798, 7.094881, 7.119132, 7.049250, 6.961049, 7.013442, 6.915243, 6.758036, 6.665078, 6.730523, 6.702005, 6.905522, 7.005191, 7.308986)

model.examp<-arima(X,order=c(7,0,0),include.mean=T)    # gives an error
model.examp<-arima(X,order=c(7,0,0),include.mean=T,method="ML") # gives no error

Any help on this would be most appreciated

Many thanks fo the help

best wishes

Benedikt

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