Re: [R] The Origins of R AND CALCULUS

2009-02-05 Thread Wacek Kusnierczyk
Ajay ohri wrote: An amusing afterthought : What is a rival software (ahem!) was planting this, hoping for a divide between S and R communities.or at the very minimum hoping for some amusement. an assumption or even a pretense of stealing credit is one of the easiest ways of sparking

Re: [R] The Origins of R AND CALCULUS

2009-02-05 Thread Thomas Lumley
Wacek, If you have bug reports for a contributed package please take them up with the maintainer, not the list. -thomas On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Wacek Kusnierczyk wrote: Ajay ohri wrote: An amusing afterthought : What is a rival software (ahem!) was planting this, hoping for a divide

Re: [R] The Origins of R AND CALCULUS

2009-02-05 Thread Mark Difford
If you have bug reports for a contributed package please take them up with the maintainer, not the list. Of course, Wacek is right. His observations being made with a customary needle-like precision. It's that old conundrum about how to have your cake and still eat it. Regards to all, Mark.

Re: [R] The Origins of R AND CALCULUS

2009-02-05 Thread Richard . Cotton
Does any student, or teacher for that matter care whether Newton or Leibntiz invented calculas. Students or teachers may not care, but Newton and Leibniz themselves were pretty bitter about who should get credit for what. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_v._Leibniz_calculus_controversy I

Re: [R] The Origins of R AND CALCULUS

2009-02-05 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Mark Difford wrote: It would have been very easy for Mr. Vance to have written: John M. Chambers, a former Bell Labs researcher who is now a consulting professor of statistics at Stanford University, was an early champion. At Bell Labs, Mr. Chambers had helped develop S, THE PROTOTYPE OF R,

Re: [R] The Origins of R AND CALCULUS

2009-02-05 Thread Mark Difford
Peter Dalgaard wrote: This of course does not mean that the current R should not acknowledge its substantial S heritage, just that if you want to describe the early history of R accurately, you do need to choose your words rather more carefully. Point taken, Peter. But I wan't trying to

Re: [R] The Origins of R AND CALCULUS

2009-02-04 Thread Mark Difford
Now that is an interesting line, Ajay, and may help to defuse some frayed tempers. Newton, of course, minded very much. And that, really, is the heart of the matter. For R-people (and I am one of them, so I don't use the term pejoratively), clearly, mind very much, too. But only about part of