Re: [R] Is R good for not-professional-statistician, un-mathematical clinical researchers?

I definitely agree that focussing on what R does better than other options is the right approach. One thing that Tomas does not mention is graphics. Two possible selling points along this line are: *) R is good for understanding your data with graphics. *) R is good for producing graphics for

Re: [R] Is R good for not-professional-statistician, un-mathematical clinical researchers?

--- Patrick Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I definitely agree that focussing on what R does better than other options is the right approach. One thing that Tomas does not mention is graphics. Two possible selling points along this line are: *) R is good for understanding your data with

[R] Is R good for not-professional-statistician, un-mathematical clinical researchers?

Alternate title: How can I persuade my students that R is for them? Alternate title: Can R replace SAS, SPSS or Stata for clinicians? I am teaching introductory statistics to twelve physicians and two veterinarians who have enrolled in a Mentored Clinical Research Training Program. My course

Re: [R] Is R good for not-professional-statistician, un-mathematical clinical researchers?

On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 07:45, Jacob Wegelin wrote: Alternate title: How can I persuade my students that R is for them? Alternate title: Can R replace SAS, SPSS or Stata for clinicians? I am teaching introductory statistics to twelve physicians and two veterinarians who have enrolled in a

Re: [R] Is R good for not-professional-statistician, un-mathematical clinical researchers?

One thought -- the first course I took, I taught physicians XLispStat. They appreciated it since it allowed them to do logistic regression without spending large $$$. Now, that isn't quite true any more. So might depend on how times have changed. Jacob Wegelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[R] Is R good for not-professional-statistician, un-mathematical clinical researchers?

I'm not in your target audience but I consult with and teach to your target audience, so I'll chime in anyway. 1. Look at the user friendliness of the alternatives you offered to R. I haven't used SPSS recently or Stata at all but I know SAS is NOT that user friendly. Note that my institute

Re: [R] Is R good for not-professional-statistician, un-mathematical clinical researchers?

A few comments. 1. What students use. I've gotten a few undergraduate psychology students to use R to analyze their data for independent study projects. They do fine. I prepare the data for them and show them how to do t tests and correlations, and how to define new variables from old ones.

Re: [R] Is R good for not-professional-statistician, un-mathematical clinical researchers?

On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 01:45, Jacob Wegelin wrote: Alternate title: How can I persuade my students that R is for them? Alternate title: Can R replace SAS, SPSS or Stata for clinicians? I am teaching introductory statistics to twelve physicians and two veterinarians who have enrolled in a

Re: [R] Is R good for not-professional-statistician, , un-mathematical clinical researchers?

We are finding more and more clinical researchers interested in learning R and are starting to teach R to clinicians. We have put some teaching material on our site: http://biostat.mc.vanderbilt.edu -- Frank E Harrell Jr Professor and Chair School of Medicine

Re: [R] Is R good for not-professional-statistician, un-mathematical clinical researchers?

: Jacob Wegelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 19, 2004 4:45 pm Subject: [R] Is R good for not-professional-statistician, un-mathematical clinical researchers? Alternate title: How can I persuade my students that R is for them? Alternate title: Can R replace SAS, SPSS or Stata

Re: [R] Is R good for not-professional-statistician, un-mathematical clinical researchers?

I am a clinician turned epidemiologist. I just taught R in an intro epi course. Here are some tips: - encourage them to use R as their calculator - encourage them to use R as their spreadsheet - provide them with exercises to work this functionality - we started a Yahoo help group for beginner