Re: [R] nlme correlated random effects

2007-06-26 Thread Spencer Graves
I haven't seen a reply to this, so I will offer a comment in case you haven't already solved the problem. Have you consulted the Mixed-Effects Bible for S-Plus / R, Pinheiro and Bates (2000) Mixed-Effects Models in S and S-Plus (Springer)? If yes, have you worked through

[R] nlme correlated random effects

2007-06-20 Thread Daniel O'Shea
I am examining the following nlme model. asymporig-function(x,th1,th2)th1*(1-exp(-exp(th2)*x)) mod1-nlme(fa20~(ah*habdiv+ad*log(d)+ads*ds+ads2*ds2+at*trout)+asymporig(da.p,th1,th2), fixed=ah+ad+ads+ads2+at+th1+th2~1, random=th1+th2~1,

[R] nlme model

2007-06-12 Thread Daniel O'Shea
I am having trouble figuring out the right form for the nlme arguments. I do have examples in Modern and Applied Statistics with S and from other sources, but I still can't figure it out. I am trying to estimate species richness (sr) in streams across minnesota. My predictor variables are

[R] {nlme} Multilevel estimation heteroscedasticity

2007-06-10 Thread Rense Nieuwenhuis
Dear All, I'm trying to model heteroscedasticity using a multilevel model. To do so, I make use of the nlme package and the weigths-parameter. Let's say that I hypothesize that the exam score of students (normexam) is influenced by their score on a standardized LR test (standLRT).

Re: [R] {nlme} Multilevel estimation heteroscedasticity

2007-06-10 Thread Andrew Robinson
Rense, how about weights = varPower(form = ~ schavg) or weights = varConstPower(form = ~ schavg) or even weights = varPower(form = ~ schavg | type) Yuo might find Pinheiro and Bates (2000) to be a valuable investment. I hope that this helps, Andrew On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 04:35:58PM

Re: [R] nlme fixed effects specification

2007-05-09 Thread roger koenker
Just to provide some closure on this thread, let me add two comments: 1. Doug's version of my sweep function: diffid1 - function(h, id) { id - as.factor(id)[ , drop = TRUE] apply(as.matrix(h), 2, function(x) x - tapply(x, id, mean)[id]) } is far more elegant than my original, and

Re: [R] nlme fixed effects specification

2007-05-05 Thread roger koenker
Ivo, I don't know whether you ever got a proper answer to this question. Here is a kludgy one -- someone else can probably provide a more elegant version of my diffid function. What you want to do is sweep out the mean deviations from both y and x based on the factor fe and then estimate the

Re: [R] nlme fixed effects specification

2007-05-05 Thread Douglas Bates
On 5/4/07, ivo welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi doug: yikes. could I have done better? Oh dear. I tried to make my example clearer half-way through, but made it worse. I meant set.seed(1); fe = as.factor( as.integer( runif(100)*10 ) ); y=rnorm(100); x=rnorm(100); print(summary(lm( y ~

Re: [R] nlme fixed effects specification

2007-05-04 Thread Douglas Bates
On 5/3/07, ivo welch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear R experts: sorry, I have to ask this again. I know that the answer is in section 7.2 of S Programming, but I don't have the book (and I plan to buy the next edition---which I hope will be titled S/R programming ;-) ). I believe the

Re: [R] nlme fixed effects specification

2007-05-04 Thread ivo welch
hi doug: yikes. could I have done better? Oh dear. I tried to make my example clearer half-way through, but made it worse. I meant set.seed(1); fe = as.factor( as.integer( runif(100)*10 ) ); y=rnorm(100); x=rnorm(100); print(summary(lm( y ~ x + fe))) deleted Coefficients:

[R] nlme fixed effects specification

2007-05-03 Thread ivo welch
dear R experts: sorry, I have to ask this again. I know that the answer is in section 7.2 of S Programming, but I don't have the book (and I plan to buy the next edition---which I hope will be titled S/R programming ;-) ). I believe the following yields a standard fixed-effects estimation:

[R] nlme trouble

2007-04-20 Thread Chris Myers
I am not certain how nlme works so I followed an example from the web ( http://www.menne-biomed.de/gastempt/gastempt1.html). I was able to successfully reproduce the example. However, when I modified my the example to use my data and with my formula, I get a set of errors having to do with the

[R] nlme : convergence problem and other errors

2007-01-16 Thread Thomas BRUNEL
Dear R-user, I am trying to use the R nlme function to fit a non linear mixed effects model. The model I wand to fit is an individual somatic growth model with 4 parameters. For all parameters both fixed and random effects have to be estimated, as well as their covariance matrix (see

[R] nlme

2006-11-24 Thread dave fournier
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[R] nlme sorry about that

2006-11-24 Thread dave fournier
Sorry list I twitched and sent the wrong stuff. Maybe I had enough fun for today. -- David A. Fournier P.O. Box 2040, Sidney, B.C. V8l 3S3 Canada Phone/FAX 250-655-3364 http://otter-rsch.com __ R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list

[R] nlme

2006-11-19 Thread Fluss
Hello! I am trying to fit a mixed non-linear model using nlme. How can I constrain the fixed parameter space (add bounds) as in nls. Thank you Ronen [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list

Re: [R] nlme

2006-11-19 Thread Douglas Bates
On 11/19/06, Fluss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I am trying to fit a mixed non-linear model using nlme. How can I constrain the fixed parameter space (add bounds) as in nls. By rewriting the nlme function, an option I wouldn't recommend. :-) __

Re: [R] nlme

2006-11-19 Thread Spencer Graves
A more sensible option in my experience would be to transform the parameter space to send the boundaries to +/-Inf. Suggested reading for 'nlme' includes Pinheiro and Bates (2000) Mixed-Effects Models in S and S-Plus (Springer) and Bates and Watts (1988) Nonlinear Regression Analysis

Re: [R] nlme Error: Subscript out of bounds

2006-11-03 Thread Spencer Graves
I can't begin to guess. If your example were self contained (and preferably simple), it would be easier to diagnose. When I have problems like this, I often try to find a simple example that produced the same error message. That process often leads me to a solution. If it

[R] nlme Error: Subscript out of bounds

2006-10-30 Thread Lisa Avery
Hello, I am new to non-linear growth modelling in R and I am trying to reproduce an analysis that was done (successfully) in S-Plus. I have a simple non-linear growth model, with no nesting. I have attempted to simplify the call as much as possible (by creating another grouped object,

[R] nlme with a factor in R 2.4.0beta

2006-09-25 Thread Christian Ritz
Hi, the following R lines work fine in R 2.4.0 alpha (and older R versions), but not in R 2.4.0 beta (details below): library(drc) # to load the dataset 'PestSci' library(nlme) ## Starting values sv - c(0.328919, 1.956121, 0.097547, 1.642436, 0.208924) ## No error m1 - nlme(SLOPE ~ c +

Re: [R] nlme with a factor in R 2.4.0beta

2006-09-25 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Christian Ritz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, the following R lines work fine in R 2.4.0 alpha (and older R versions), but not in R 2.4.0 beta (details below): library(drc) # to load the dataset 'PestSci' library(nlme) ## Starting values sv - c(0.328919, 1.956121, 0.097547,

[R] NLME: Limitations of using identify to interact with scatterplots?

2006-08-17 Thread Greg Distiller
I have a quick question regarding the use of identify to interact with points on a scatterplot. My question is essentially: can identify be used when one is plotting model objects to generate diagnostic plots? Specifically I am using NLME. For example, I am plotting the fitted values on the x

Re: [R] NLME: Limitations of using identify to interact with scatterplots?

2006-08-17 Thread Douglas Bates
Most plotting functions in the nlme package use lattice graphics functions based on the grid package. Identify will not work with lattice graphics. I'm not sure if there is a replacement. On 8/17/06, Greg Distiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a quick question regarding the use of identify

Re: [R] NLME: Limitations of using identify to interact with scatterplots?

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Murrell
Hi Take a look at panel.identify() (in the 'lattice' package). I'm not sure if it will help you because I cannot run your example code. Paul Douglas Bates wrote: Most plotting functions in the nlme package use lattice graphics functions based on the grid package. Identify will not work

Re: [R] NLME: Limitations of using identify to interact with scatterplots?

2006-08-17 Thread Andrew Robinson
Many useful diagnostic plots can be recreated in the usual plot() framework, with only a little coding effort. In this case, I would imagine that plot(dframe$log2game, fitted(D2C29.nlme)) abline(0,1) should get pretty close, if the name of the dataframe containing the variable is 'dframe'.

Re: [R] nlme iteration process, few questions

2006-08-10 Thread Ken Beath
Recently I started using nlme intensively, and since it is all new for me, I have some questions. I am running nlme with control=list(verbose=TRUE) and during one lengthy fitting, I started watching the output for some clues, how to speed up the process. I noticed that in one case, the

[R] nlme iteration process, few questions

2006-08-09 Thread Vaidotas Zemlys
Hi all, Recently I started using nlme intensively, and since it is all new for me, I have some questions. I am running nlme with control=list(verbose=TRUE) and during one lengthy fitting, I started watching the output for some clues, how to speed up the process. I noticed that in one case, the

Re: [R] NLME: Problem with plotting ranef vs a factor

2006-08-08 Thread Spencer Graves
Your question is entirely too complex for me to try to answer in a reasonable amount of time, especially since your example in not self contained. If you would still like help on this, I suggest you try to generate a self contained example that is as simple as you can make

[R] NLME: Problem with plotting ranef vs a factor

2006-08-03 Thread Greg Distiller
Hi I am following the model building strategy that is outlined in the Pinheiro and Bates book wrt including covariates but am having a problem with the plot. Basically I am using 4 covariates (1 of them is continuous) and 3 of them are fine but the 4th one is being shown as a scatterplot

Re: [R] NLME: Problem with plotting ranef vs a factor

2006-08-03 Thread Dirk Enzmann
Greg, be careful using attach() and detach(). From the syntax snippets you showed it seems that you did create an object pcat (factor variable), but you did not change the respective variable in your data frame. Try to remove pcat and see what happens do the results of lme()! Dirk

Re: [R] 'nlme' crashes R (was: Using corStruct in nlme)

2006-07-20 Thread Spencer Graves
Thanks for providing such a self-contained example by which 'nlme' crashes R. Could you please also give us 'sessionInfo()'? I don't have time to test it myself now, but perhaps if you identify your platform, you might interest someone else in checking it. I'm sorry I

Re: [R] 'nlme' crashes R (was: Using corStruct in nlme)

2006-07-20 Thread grieve
Thanks Spencer. Here is my sessionInfo(): Version 2.3.1 (2006-06-01) i386-pc-mingw32 attached base packages: [1] methods stats graphics grDevices utils datasets [7] base other attached packages: nlme 3.1-75 On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Spencer Graves wrote: Thanks

Re: [R] nlme: correlation structure in gls and zero distance

2006-07-02 Thread Patrick Giraudoux
Joris De Wolf a écrit : Have you tried to define 'an' as a group? Like in gls(IKAfox~an,correlation=corExp(2071,form=~x+y|an,nugget=1.22),data=renliev) A small data set might help to explain the problem. Joris Thanks. Seems to work with a small artificial data set:

[R] nlme: correlation structure in gls and zero distance

2006-07-01 Thread Patrick Giraudoux
Dear listers, I am trying to model the distribution of fox density over years in the Doubs department. Measurements have been taken on 470 plots in March each year and georeferenced. Average density is supposed to be different each year. In a first approach, I would like to use a general

Re: [R] NLME Fitting

2006-06-29 Thread Spencer Graves
I'm not certain what you want, but it sounds like the answer might be in '?nlme' help page. Toward the end, it describes the 'Value' returned as follows: an object of class 'nlme' representing the nonlinear mixed-effects model fit. Generic functions such as 'print', 'plot'

[R] NLME Fitting

2006-06-28 Thread F Monadjemi
Dear Reader, Is it possible to extract the random part of nlme fitting analysis (non linear mixed effect model) i.e.sigma(b), in R? Thank you for respond Farinaz __ R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help

Re: [R] NLME: using the layout option with the plot command

2006-06-22 Thread Mark Difford
Hi Greg, Since you haven't yet had a response, you could distill this. It uses the pixel dataset from nlme() as an example. ## To get separate files, do this postscript(c:\MyGraph%03.ps, onefile=F) plot(Pixel, display = Dog, inner = ~Side, layout=c(4,1)) dev.off() ## To get your layout into

[R] NLME: using the layout option with the plot command

2006-06-20 Thread Greg Distiller
Hi This is the 2nd time I am posting this question as I never got a reply the 1st time round - apologies to anybody who might take offense at this but I dont know what else to do. I am struggling to split up the plots of the grouped objects in nlme in a usable way. The standard plot command

Re: [R] NLME: using the layout option with the plot command

2006-06-20 Thread David Hugh-Jones
hi greg If you are using windows, set up a plot window and click the Record option in the menu. Then run the command. Now you can scroll back through previous pages by hitting Page Up. Beware that if you save your workspace without clearing the history, you may have a lot of bloat from the

[R] nlme: extract covariance matrix of the random effects

2006-06-02 Thread Marc Bernard
Dear all, I am looking for a function to extract, from an nlme object, the estimated variance-covariance matrix of the random effects. many thanks, Bernard, __ [[alternative HTML version deleted]]

Re: [R] nlme: extract covariance matrix of the random effects

2006-06-02 Thread Dieter Menne
Marc Bernard bernarduse1 at yahoo.fr writes: I am looking for a function to extract, from an nlme object, the estimated variance-covariance matrix of the random effects. VarCorr D.Menne __ R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list

Re: [R] nlme model specification

2006-05-20 Thread Spencer Graves
Thanks for providing such a simple, replicatable example. When I tried that and similar examples, the response matched what you report. I also tried the following slight modification of the 'nlme' call that worked for you: mod4 - +nlme(circumference ~ SSlogis(age, Asym, xmid,

[R] nlme model specification

2006-05-17 Thread Martin Henry H. Stevens
Hi folks, I am tearing my hair out on this one. I am using an example from Pinheiro and Bates. ### this works data(Orange) mod.lis - nlsList(circumference ~ SSlogis(age, Asymp, xmid, scal), data=Orange ) ### This works mod - nlme(circumference ~ SSlogis(age, Asymp, xmid, scal),

Re: [R] nlme plot residuals per group

2006-05-10 Thread Spencer Graves
Your example is not self contained, and I don't know enough to replicate it myself, so I can't tell you what caused it or how to fix it. However, I can outline the type of thing I've often done with this kind of problem: 1. First, can you get the plots you want using

[R] nlme plot residuals per group

2006-05-07 Thread Osman Al-Radi
dear list: I used the nlme library according to the great Pinheiro/Bates book, on R2.3, WinXp Lac.lme is an lme object with unbalanced data, group is a factor variable with three levels, when I tried to plot the residuals by group I got this error msg:

Re: [R] nlme for groupedData with inner and outer factors

2006-03-29 Thread Spencer Graves
1. Have you read Pinheiro and Bates (2000) Mixed-Effects Models in S and S-Plus (Springer)? If no, I believe your study of that book will be well rewarded; mine has. 2. If you've looked at Pinheiro and Bates and still have questions about this, PLEASE do read the

Re: [R] NLME Covariates

2006-03-26 Thread Spencer Graves
What you think about the following: set.seed(1) DF0.3 - data.frame(X=c(a,a, b), y=rnorm(3)) lme(y~1, random=~1|X, data=DF0.3) Linear mixed-effects model fit by REML Data: DF0.3 Log-restricted-likelihood: -2.148692 Fixed: y ~ 1 (Intercept) -0.4261464 Random effects:

Re: [R] NLME Covariates

2006-03-23 Thread Robin Martin
HLM question? Is there a minmum number of observations required for a category..I have individusals in work teams.I have incomplete data for all the teams ..sometimes I only have data for one person in a team.I assume that HLM can't work here! But what would be the mimimal.at the moment I

[R] nlme for groupedData with inner and outer factors

2006-03-23 Thread Dan Bebber
Hello, I am having trouble specifying a suitable nlme model. My data structure is described by gd - groupedData(ppath ~ lcut | exp, outer = ~ bait, inner = ~ weight, data = d) i.e. the response (ppath) of several subjects (sub) was measured at levels of a continuous variable (lcut). Subjects

Re: [R] nlme predict with se?

2006-03-21 Thread Martin Maechler
Emilio == Emilio A Laca [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:01:05 -0800 writes: Emilio Berton, What you say makes sense and helps. I could Emilio do a parametric bootstrapping. However, I cannot Emilio make predict.nlme work at all, even without the Emilio se's. It

Re: [R] nlme predict with se?

2006-03-18 Thread Dr. Emilio A. Laca
Berton, What you say makes sense and helps. I could do a parametric bootstrapping. However, I cannot make predict.nlme work at all, even without the se's. It would save me a lot of time to be able to use the predict as the statistic in boot. Does predict.nlme work at all? It is a listed

[R] nlme predict with se?

2006-03-17 Thread Dr. Emilio A. Laca
I am trying to make predictions with se's using a nlme (kew11.nlme below). I get an error indicating levels for a factor are not allowed. I have searched and read Rnews, MEMSS, MASS, R-Help, and other lists in Spanish where I found questions similar to mine but not solution. I do not really

Re: [R] nlme predict with se?

2006-03-17 Thread Berton Gunter
To: R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: [R] nlme predict with se? I am trying to make predictions with se's using a nlme (kew11.nlme below). I get an error indicating levels for a factor are not allowed. I have searched and read Rnews, MEMSS, MASS, R-Help, and other lists in Spanish where I

Re: [R] nlme in R v.2.2.1 and S-Plus v. 7.0

2006-01-26 Thread Spencer Graves
I see you got an error message from R. Did you have both either the lme4 or the Matrix packages in the search path at the same time you ran nlme to get the result you got below? If yes, please rerun with only nlme in the search path. (This may not be necessary, but I always quite

[R] nlme in R v.2.2.1 and S-Plus v. 7.0

2006-01-23 Thread Paolo Ghisletta
Dear R-Users, I am comparing the nlme package in S-Plus (v. 7.0) and R (v. 2.2.1, nlme package version 3.1-68.1; the lattice, Matrix, and lme4 have also just been updated today, Jan. 23, 2006) on a PC (2.40 GHz Pentium 4 processor and 1 GHz RAM) operating on Windows XP. I am using a real data

Re: [R] nlme problems

2005-12-19 Thread Ken Beath
I meant fitting not maximising, it is a nonlinear mixed effects model, with both fixed and random effects. My assumption is that for the function I am using the approximation approach used in nlme is not quite close enough, and nothing much that I can do, except for looking at starting

Re: [R] nlme problems

2005-12-19 Thread Spencer Graves
Are you familiar with Pinheiro and Bates (2000) Mixed-Effects Models in S and S-Plus (Springer)? I suspect that book, especially the latter half, might contain the information you seek. spencer graves p.s. PLEASE do read the posting guide!

Re: [R] nlme problems

2005-12-18 Thread Dieter Menne
Ken Beath kbeath at efs.mq.edu.au writes: I'm maximising a reasonably complex function using nlme (version 3.1-65, have also tried 3.1-66) and am having trouble with fixed parameter estimates slightly away from the maximum of the log likelihood. I have profiled the log likelihood and

[R] nlme problems

2005-12-17 Thread Ken Beath
I'm maximising a reasonably complex function using nlme (version 3.1-65, have also tried 3.1-66) and am having trouble with fixed parameter estimates slightly away from the maximum of the log likelihood. I have profiled the log likelihood and it is a parabola but with sum dips.

Re: [R] nlme question

2005-11-21 Thread Wassell, James T., Ph.D.
Deepayan, Yes, thanks for confirming my suspicions. I know mixed models are different but, I did not think they were so different as to preclude estimating the var-cov matrix (via the Hessian in Maximum likelihood, as you point out). Thanks for prompting me to think about MCMC. Your

Re: [R] nlme question

2005-11-21 Thread Deepayan Sarkar
On 11/21/05, Wassell, James T., Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deepayan, Yes, thanks for confirming my suspicions. I know mixed models are different but, I did not think they were so different as to preclude estimating the var-cov matrix (via the Hessian in Maximum likelihood, as you point

Re: [R] nlme questions

2005-11-18 Thread Christian Mora
Mora [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject:Re: [R] nlme questions Both your questions seem too vague to me. You might get more useful replies if you provide a simple example in a few lines of R code that a reader could copy from your email into R and see the result

Re: [R] nlme questions

2005-11-18 Thread Austin, Matt
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christian Mora Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 4:01 AM To: Spencer Graves Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] nlme questions Spencer; Thanks for your suggestions. I found the problem is in the library nlme. If you define phi1

Re: [R] nlme questions

2005-11-18 Thread Christian Mora
Mora' [EMAIL PROTECTED], Spencer Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject:RE: [R] nlme questions Warning: non-expert thoughts to follow. When passing an object to a predict method, the method looks at (a copy) of the original information from the dataframe

[R] nlme question

2005-11-17 Thread Wassell, James T., Ph.D.
-Original Message- From: Wassell, James T., Ph.D. Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:40 AM To: 'Deepayan Sarkar' Subject: RE: nlme question Deepayan, Thanks for your interest. It's difficult in email but I need the variance of Kappa = mu + 1.645*tau + 1.645* sigma Just using the

Re: [R] nlme question

2005-11-17 Thread Doran, Harold
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wassell, James T., Ph.D. Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:29 AM To: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: [R] nlme question -Original Message- From: Wassell, James T., Ph.D. Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:40 AM To: 'Deepayan Sarkar' Subject: RE: nlme question

Re: [R] nlme question

2005-11-17 Thread Wassell, James T., Ph.D.
Thank you for taking the time to think about my problem. The reference states: The covariance structure must be considered, because for unbalanced data the estimates (i.e. mu, sigma and tau hats) are not typically independent. Page 105. It would be nice to simply assume zero covariance terms,

Re: [R] nlme question

2005-11-17 Thread Doran, Harold
Subject: RE: [R] nlme question Thank you for taking the time to think about my problem. The reference states: The covariance structure must be considered, because for unbalanced data the estimates (i.e. mu, sigma and tau hats) are not typically independent. Page 105. It would be nice to simply

Re: [R] nlme question

2005-11-17 Thread Deepayan Sarkar
On 11/17/05, Doran, Harold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the authors are mistaken. Sigma is random error, and due to its randomness it cannot be systematically related to anything. It is this ind. assumption that allows for the likelihood to be expressed as described in Pinhiero and Bates

Re: [R] nlme questions

2005-11-17 Thread Spencer Graves
Both your questions seem too vague to me. You might get more useful replies if you provide a simple example in a few lines of R code that a reader could copy from your email into R and see the result (as suggested in the posting guide! www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html). The

[R] nlme question

2005-11-16 Thread Wassell, James T., Ph.D.
I am using the package nlme to fit a simple random effects (variance components model) with 3 parameters: overall mean (fixed effect), between subject variance (random) and within subject variance (random). I have 16 subjects with 1-4 obs per subject. I need a 3x3 variance-covariance

Re: [R] nlme question

2005-11-16 Thread Deepayan Sarkar
On 11/16/05, Wassell, James T., Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using the package nlme to fit a simple random effects (variance components model) with 3 parameters: overall mean (fixed effect), between subject variance (random) and within subject variance (random). So to paraphrase,

Re: [R] nlme error message

2005-11-07 Thread Spencer Graves
p.s. You may also find useful the process I followed to diagnose this problem. 1. I copied your example into R and confirmed that I could replicate the error. 2. I read the documentation, invoked debug, and tried different things to isolate the problem. For example, I

Re: [R] nlme, predict.nlme, levels not allowed

2005-11-06 Thread Patrick Giraudoux
Going through the R-Dev list, I have found this (from Pedro Afalo), dated 8 April 2004: Dear Richard, The problem that you report is documented (but no solution given) in the file ch08.R in the scripts directory of nlme package. I have found the following workaround just by chance, but it

Re: [R] nlme error message

2005-11-06 Thread Spencer Graves
You need repeated measures for a random effect to make any sense. I modified your example as follows, and the error went away. mytable$RIL2 - rep(1:4, 1:4) cs2 - corCompSymm(value=0.5, form=~1|RIL2) model2-lme(mytrait~myloc, data=mytable, random=~1|RIL2, +

[R] nlme, predict.nlme, levels not allowed

2005-11-05 Thread Patrick Giraudoux
Dear listers, I am trying to fit a nlme model with age and pds as reals, and zone a factor with two levels Annaba and Boumalek . The best model found is the following: modm3 Nonlinear mixed-effects model fit by maximum likelihood Model: pds ~ Asym/(1 + exp((xmid - age)/scal)) Data:

Re: [R] nlme Singularity in backsolve at level 0, block 1

2005-11-05 Thread Spencer Graves
RSiteSearch(Singularity in backsolve) produced 33 hits, the second of which was the following: http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/R/Rhelp02a/archive/62691.html This reply from Peter Dalgaard dates 8 Oct. 2005 asks, Which version of R and NLME? R 2.2.0 ships with a version where

[R] nlme questions

2005-11-03 Thread Christian Mora
Dear R users; Ive got two questions concerning nlme library 3.1-65 (running on R 2.2.0 / Win XP Pro). The first one is related to augPred function. Ive been working with a nonlinear mixed model with no problems so far. However, when the parameters of the model are specified in terms of some

Re: [R] NLME

2005-11-02 Thread Dieter Menne
Guy Forrester ForresterG at landcareresearch.co.nz writes: R : Copyright 2005, The R Foundation for Statistical Computing Version 2.1.1 (2005-06-20), ISBN 3-900051-07-0 Jose Pinheiro, Douglas Bates, Saikat DebRoy and Deepayan Sarkar (2005). ... I am trying to run the scripts from the

[R] NLME

2005-11-01 Thread Guy Forrester
Dear All, Using:- R : Copyright 2005, The R Foundation for Statistical Computing Version 2.1.1 (2005-06-20), ISBN 3-900051-07-0 and Jose Pinheiro, Douglas Bates, Saikat DebRoy and Deepayan Sarkar (2005). nlme: Linear and nonlinear mixed effects models. R package version 3.1-65. on a

[R] nlme error message

2005-10-31 Thread J.Fu
Dear Friends, I am seeking for any help on an error message in lme functions. I use mixed model to analyze a data with compound symmetric correlation structure. But I get an error message: Error in corMatrix.corCompSymm(object) : NA/NaN/Inf in foreign function call (arg 1). If I change the

[R] nlme Singularity in backsolve at level 0, block 1

2005-10-19 Thread Elizabeth Lawson
Hi, I am hoping some one can help with this. I am using nlme to fit a random coefficients model. It ran for hours before returning Error: Singularity in backsolve at level 0, block 1 The model is

[R] nlme gls() error

2005-10-13 Thread Richard Nixon
Hello I'm fitting a gls model with a variance-covariance structure and an getting an error message I don't understand I'm using gls() from the nlme library with the structure defined by correlation = corSymm(form = ~1|Subject), weights = varIdent(form=~1|strata) I get the error Error in

Re: [R] nlme and spatially correlated errors

2005-07-16 Thread Spencer Graves
Have you tried anova(fit1, fit2), where fit1 - lme(one model...) fit2 - lme(a submodel ... ) This anova does about the best that anyone knows how to do -- or at lest did 7 years ago when it was written. If the submodel changes the fixed effects, you should use

[R] nlme and spatially correlated errors

2005-07-15 Thread Patricia Balvanera
Dear R users, I am using lme and nlme to account for spatially correlated errors as random effects. My basic question is about being able to correct F, p, R2 and parameters of models that do not take into account the nature of such errors using gls, glm or nlm and replace them for new F, p, R2

[R] nlme, MASS and geoRglm for spatial autocorrelation?

2005-07-13 Thread Beale, Colin
Hi. I'm trying to perform what should be a reasonably basic analysis of some spatial presence/absence data but am somewhat overwhelmed by the options available and could do with a helpful pointer. My researches so far indicate that if my data were normal, I would simply use gls() (in nlme) and

Re: [R] nlme, MASS and geoRglm for spatial autocorrelation?

2005-07-13 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
You seem to want to model spatially correlated bernoulli variables. That's a difficult task, especially as these are bernoulli and not binomial(n1). With a much fuller description of the problem we may be able to help, but I at least have no idea of the aims of the analysis. glmmPQL is

Re: [R] nlme, MASS and geoRglm for spatial autocorrelation?

2005-07-13 Thread Beale, Colin
to be most important. Colin -Original Message- From: Prof Brian Ripley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 July 2005 11:30 To: Beale, Colin Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] nlme, MASS and geoRglm for spatial autocorrelation? You seem to want to model spatially correlated

Re: [R] nlme, MASS and geoRglm for spatial autocorrelation?

2005-07-13 Thread Ruben Roa
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Beale, Colin Sent: 13 July 2005 10:15 To: Prof Brian Ripley Cc: r-help@stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R] nlme, MASS and geoRglm for spatial autocorrelation? My data are indeed bernoulli

[R] nlme plot

2005-07-11 Thread R V
Hello, I am running this script from Pinheiro Bates book in R Version 2.1.1 (WinXP). But, I can't plot Figure 2.3. What's wrong? TIA. Rod. - library(nlme) names( Orthodont ) [1] distance age Subject Sex levels( Orthodont$Sex

Re: [R] nlme plot

2005-07-11 Thread Douglas Bates
On 7/11/05, R V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am running this script from Pinheiro Bates book in R Version 2.1.1 (WinXP). But, I can't plot Figure 2.3. What's wrong? There was a change in the way that R handles assignments of names of components and that affected the construction of

[R] nlme leading minor error

2005-06-22 Thread Petr Pikal
Dear all I am struggling with nlme and error message. Even going through Pinheiro, Bates nlme book did not gave me a clue how to avoid this. fit - nlme(ce ~ fi1 / ((1+exp(fi2-fi3*tepl))^(1/fi4)), data = temp1na.gr, start = c(fi1=30, fi2=-100, fi3=-.05, fi4=40), fixed = fi1+fi2+fi3+fi4~1,

Re: [R] nlme leading minor error

2005-06-22 Thread Douglas Bates
On 6/22/05, Petr Pikal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all I am struggling with nlme and error message. Even going through Pinheiro, Bates nlme book did not gave me a clue how to avoid this. fit - nlme(ce ~ fi1 / ((1+exp(fi2-fi3*tepl))^(1/fi4)), data = temp1na.gr, start = c(fi1=30,

[R] nlme SASmixed in 2.0.1

2005-04-05 Thread Murray Jorgensen
I assigned a class the first problem in Pinheiro Bates, which uses the data set PBIB from the SASmixed package. I have recently downloaded 2.0.1 and its associated packages. On trying library(SASmixed) data(PBIB) library(nlme) plot(PBIB) I get a warning message Warning message: replacing

Re: [R] nlme SASmixed in 2.0.1

2005-04-05 Thread Deepayan Sarkar
On Tuesday 05 April 2005 18:40, Murray Jorgensen wrote: I assigned a class the first problem in Pinheiro Bates, which uses the data set PBIB from the SASmixed package. I have recently downloaded 2.0.1 and its associated packages. On trying library(SASmixed) data(PBIB) library(nlme)

[R] nlme and pnlsTol

2004-12-10 Thread Dieter Menne
Dear nlme-lovers, I do a fit fo a 3-parameter fit to physiological data with nlme: EmptD-deriv(~(vol+slope*t)*exp(-t/tempt)... The approach described in Pinheiro/Bates by using nlsList as a first approximator was somewhat unstable (many NA), but a direct fit converges quickly and fits look

[R] NLME plottting and Confidence Intervals

2004-11-18 Thread Greg Tarpinian
All, I have been learning about mixed models and have been able to successfully use lme( ) and nlme( ) to fit some simple linear and 4PL logistic models. As a relative newbie I am at a loss as to how I can do the following: (1) Import a SAS dataset with DATE9. formatted time values and get

[R] nlme vs gls

2004-10-08 Thread Doran, Harold
Dear List: My question is more statistical than R oriented (although it originates from my work with nlme). I know statistical questions are occasionally posted, so I hope my question is relevant to the list as I cannot turn up a solution anywhere else. I will frame it in the context of an R

RE: [R] nlme vs gls

2004-10-08 Thread Raubertas, Richard
- specific coefficients (e.g. slopes), in the random effects sense. Rich Raubertas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doran, Harold Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [R] nlme vs gls Dear List

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