Re: [R] help for lay person assisting R user with disability
You may have people knowledgeable about R there at Carnegie Mellon since it hosts a mirror for R software (one of 18 in the US). As Petr pointed out it is relatively easy to transfer information from an Excel spreadsheet to R by cutting and pasting (the method he suggested is for Windows computers) or by saving the file in a tab delimited or comma separated format so data entry should not be a problem assuming the data are arranged in a consistent format. As for the interface, there are a number of ways of interacting with R, but the default method involves a command window that allows you to type commands. On Windows it is called the R Console and the GUI Preferences option on the Edit menu tab allows you to choose the font, its size, and the number of rows and columns. For example changing the default size of 10 to 24 makes the type and the window larger. If the settings are saved, they should be preserved when the program is restarted. There are also some graphical user interfaces for R that may be easier to use such as R Commander. - David L Carlson Department of Anthropology Texas AM University College Station, TX 77840-4352 -Original Message- From: R-help [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of PIKAL Petr Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 10:04 AM To: Courtney Bryant; r-help@R-project.org Subject: Re: [R] help for lay person assisting R user with disability Hi I believe that others come with more elaborated answers. Probably easiest way how to transfer Excel data to R is: select rectangular area you want to transfer, preferably with sensible header. pres Ctrl-C In R enter command object - read.delim(clipboard) possibly with header or NA options. However this approach is not reproducible (you lose information about data source in .Rhistory), so there are other ways (e.g. through saved CSV file) but they can be more tricky. Cheers Petr -Original Message- From: R-help [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of Courtney Bryant Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:33 PM To: r-help@R-project.org Subject: [R] help for lay person assisting R user with disability Good Morning, I am currently working with a disabled R user who is a student here at CMU. The student has both sight and mobility issues. The student has asked for an assistant who is well versed in R to enter data for her, which we are having a hard time finding. I would like information from R developers/users about how/how well R interfaces with Excel (an easier skill set to find!) In your opinion, could it be as easy as uploading data from excel into R? Also, do you know of a way to enlarge the R interface or otherwise assist in making the program accessible to a low vision person? My limited understanding leads me to believe that screen magnifiers like zoom text don't work particularly well. If you have information on that, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks for your help and for bearing with me! Courtney Courtney Bryant, EOS Specialist Equal Opportunity Services, Human Resources Carnegie Mellon University 412-268-3930 | cbry...@andrew.cmu.edu __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting- guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. Tento e-mail a jakékoliv k němu připojené dokumenty jsou důvěrné a jsou určeny pouze jeho adresátům. Jestliže jste obdržel(a) tento e-mail omylem, informujte laskavě neprodleně jeho odesílatele. Obsah tohoto emailu i s přílohami a jeho kopie vymažte ze svého systému. Nejste-li zamýšleným adresátem tohoto emailu, nejste oprávněni tento email jakkoliv užívat, rozšiřovat, kopírovat či zveřejňovat. Odesílatel e-mailu neodpovídá za eventuální škodu způsobenou modifikacemi či zpožděním přenosu e-mailu. V případě, že je tento e-mail součástí obchodního jednání: - vyhrazuje si odesílatel právo ukončit kdykoliv jednání o uzavření smlouvy, a to z jakéhokoliv důvodu i bez uvedení důvodu. - a obsahuje-li nabídku, je adresát oprávněn nabídku bezodkladně přijmout; Odesílatel tohoto e-mailu (nabídky) vylučuje přijetí nabídky ze strany příjemce s dodatkem či odchylkou. - trvá odesílatel na tom, že příslušná smlouva je uzavřena teprve výslovným dosažením shody na všech jejích náležitostech. - odesílatel tohoto emailu informuje, že není oprávněn uzavírat za společnost žádné smlouvy s výjimkou případů, kdy k tomu byl písemně zmocněn nebo písemně pověřen a takové pověření nebo plná moc byly adresátovi tohoto emailu případně osobě, kterou adresát zastupuje, předloženy nebo jejich existence je adresátovi či osobě jím zastoupené známá. This e-mail and any documents attached to it may be confidential and are intended only for its intended
Re: [R] help for lay person assisting R user with disability
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Courtney Bryant cbry...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: Good Morning, I am currently working with a disabled R user who is a student here at CMU. The student has both sight and mobility issues. The student has asked for an assistant who is well versed in R to enter data for her, which we are having a hard time finding. I would like information from R developers/users about how/how well R interfaces with Excel (an easier skill set to find!) In your opinion, could it be as easy as uploading data from excel into R? Also, do you know of a way to enlarge the R interface or otherwise assist in making the program accessible to a low vision person? My limited understanding leads me to believe that screen magnifiers like zoom text don't work particularly well. If you have information on that, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks for your help and for bearing with me! Courtney 1. If the data file is in the form of a rectangular table with rows and columns and the first row is a header row then if, in Excel, it is saved as a .csv file it can be read into R like this: DF - read.csv(/Users/JoeDoe/myspreadsheet.csv) 2. The openxlsx, readxl (and a number of other packages) can alternetely be used to directly read in an xls or xlsx file, e.g. install.packages(readxl) library(readxl) DF - read_excel(/Users/JoeDoe/myspreadsheet.xlsx) 3. The Windows magnifier that comes with Windows does work with R. -- Statistics Software Consulting GKX Group, GKX Associates Inc. tel: 1-877-GKX-GROUP email: ggrothendieck at gmail.com [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] help for lay person assisting R user with disability
Hi I believe that others come with more elaborated answers. Probably easiest way how to transfer Excel data to R is: select rectangular area you want to transfer, preferably with sensible header. pres Ctrl-C In R enter command object - read.delim(clipboard) possibly with header or NA options. However this approach is not reproducible (you lose information about data source in .Rhistory), so there are other ways (e.g. through saved CSV file) but they can be more tricky. Cheers Petr -Original Message- From: R-help [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of Courtney Bryant Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:33 PM To: r-help@R-project.org Subject: [R] help for lay person assisting R user with disability Good Morning, I am currently working with a disabled R user who is a student here at CMU. The student has both sight and mobility issues. The student has asked for an assistant who is well versed in R to enter data for her, which we are having a hard time finding. I would like information from R developers/users about how/how well R interfaces with Excel (an easier skill set to find!) In your opinion, could it be as easy as uploading data from excel into R? Also, do you know of a way to enlarge the R interface or otherwise assist in making the program accessible to a low vision person? My limited understanding leads me to believe that screen magnifiers like zoom text don't work particularly well. If you have information on that, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks for your help and for bearing with me! Courtney Courtney Bryant, EOS Specialist Equal Opportunity Services, Human Resources Carnegie Mellon University 412-268-3930 | cbry...@andrew.cmu.edu __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting- guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. Tento e-mail a jakékoliv k němu připojené dokumenty jsou důvěrné a jsou určeny pouze jeho adresátům. Jestliže jste obdržel(a) tento e-mail omylem, informujte laskavě neprodleně jeho odesílatele. Obsah tohoto emailu i s přílohami a jeho kopie vymažte ze svého systému. Nejste-li zamýšleným adresátem tohoto emailu, nejste oprávněni tento email jakkoliv užívat, rozšiřovat, kopírovat či zveřejňovat. Odesílatel e-mailu neodpovídá za eventuální škodu způsobenou modifikacemi či zpožděním přenosu e-mailu. V případě, že je tento e-mail součástí obchodního jednání: - vyhrazuje si odesílatel právo ukončit kdykoliv jednání o uzavření smlouvy, a to z jakéhokoliv důvodu i bez uvedení důvodu. - a obsahuje-li nabídku, je adresát oprávněn nabídku bezodkladně přijmout; Odesílatel tohoto e-mailu (nabídky) vylučuje přijetí nabídky ze strany příjemce s dodatkem či odchylkou. - trvá odesílatel na tom, že příslušná smlouva je uzavřena teprve výslovným dosažením shody na všech jejích náležitostech. - odesílatel tohoto emailu informuje, že není oprávněn uzavírat za společnost žádné smlouvy s výjimkou případů, kdy k tomu byl písemně zmocněn nebo písemně pověřen a takové pověření nebo plná moc byly adresátovi tohoto emailu případně osobě, kterou adresát zastupuje, předloženy nebo jejich existence je adresátovi či osobě jím zastoupené známá. This e-mail and any documents attached to it may be confidential and are intended only for its intended recipients. If you received this e-mail by mistake, please immediately inform its sender. Delete the contents of this e-mail with all attachments and its copies from your system. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are not authorized to use, disseminate, copy or disclose this e-mail in any manner. The sender of this e-mail shall not be liable for any possible damage caused by modifications of the e-mail or by delay with transfer of the email. In case that this e-mail forms part of business dealings: - the sender reserves the right to end negotiations about entering into a contract in any time, for any reason, and without stating any reasoning. - if the e-mail contains an offer, the recipient is entitled to immediately accept such offer; The sender of this e-mail (offer) excludes any acceptance of the offer on the part of the recipient containing any amendment or variation. - the sender insists on that the respective contract is concluded only upon an express mutual agreement on all its aspects. - the sender of this e-mail informs that he/she is not authorized to enter into any contracts on behalf of the company except for cases in which he/she is expressly authorized to do so in writing, and such authorization or power of attorney is submitted to the recipient or the person represented by the recipient, or the existence of such authorization is known to the recipient of the person represented by the
Re: [R] help for lay person assisting R user with disability
Hi Courtney and John, The RStudio environment mentioned below will not work with speech output (I tried with Window-Eyes awhile ago). Some of my clients use it but I have no experience with it. Since the student is partially sighted, they might be able to customize the environment with big fonts and contrast, I’m just not sure. Using a screen reader like Window-Eyes, the student could use the R GUI environment, although it’s a little frustrating because it doesn’t speak a lot and you need to use the mouse keys a lot. The other option if you have to stick with Windows is to run R at the command prompt, which makes interaction slightly easier but you’d have to figure out how to log the output. What is being recommended for the rest of the students in the class? Ideally, this student’s experience should be as close as possible to the others’. Liz On Jun 18, 2015, at 12:17 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Courtney Bryant cbry...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: Good Morning, I am currently working with a disabled R user who is a student here at CMU. The student has both sight and mobility issues. The student has asked for an assistant who is well versed in R to enter data for her, which we are having a hard time finding. I would like information from R developers/users about how/how well R interfaces with Excel (an easier skill set to find!) In your opinion, could it be as easy as uploading data from excel into R? Also, do you know of a way to enlarge the R interface or otherwise assist in making the program accessible to a low vision person? My limited understanding leads me to believe that screen magnifiers like zoom text don't work particularly well. If you have information on that, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks for your help and for bearing with me! Courtney I am a bit confused (a normal condition for me). Is the student writing R code or is the student running a application written in R? Also, since you mentioned Excel, I am assuming that the student is using a PC running Windows as opposed to Linux or a Mac. If the student is writing R code, then I'd suggest that your computer support person install Rstudio. It is cost free and can be downloaded here: http://www.rstudio.com/ . The installer can then customize Rstudio to use a really large font, if that would be helpful. Please forgive my lack of knowledge about accessibility issues. If the student has trouble typing (mobility issue?), this likely won't help. Would a speech to text / text to speech interface help instead of a screen magnifier? I know next to nothing about these tools, other than that they exist. === If the student is running an R application (which is what enter data for her implies to me), then any accessibility issues would need to be addressed in the application itself. But I don't understand why a data entry assistant would need any skills in R itself in order to enter data into it. But without knowing more, that's about all that I can say. One thought: CMU has a college teaching electrical and computer engineering. Depending on what that means, perhaps someone from that college (professor, TA, or grad student) could see what your student is doing and perhaps have some insights on how to help. Or is there a computer club on campus where some geeky student might be found? You might look here: http://www.club.cc.cmu.edu/ If these are true geeks (and the web site sounds promising), then a lure of beer pizza would likely be irresistible grin. === For interfacing R with Excel, you might want to look at RExcel here: http://rcom.univie.ac.at/download.html#RExcel . It has a free student version. But is this more for an Excel user who wants to use R for analysis, not an R user wanting to use Excel for data entry. -- Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be. My sister opened a computer store in Hawaii. She sells C shells down by the seashore. If someone tell you that nothing is impossible: Ask him to dribble a football. He's about as useful as a wax frying pan. 10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone Maranatha! John McKown [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. Liz Hare, PhD Dog Genetics LLC dogg...@earthlink.net http://www.doggenetics.com http://www.doggenetics.com/ [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide
Re: [R] help for lay person assisting R user with disability
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Courtney Bryant cbry...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: Good Morning, I am currently working with a disabled R user who is a student here at CMU. The student has both sight and mobility issues. The student has asked for an assistant who is well versed in R to enter data for her, which we are having a hard time finding. I would like information from R developers/users about how/how well R interfaces with Excel (an easier skill set to find!) In your opinion, could it be as easy as uploading data from excel into R? Also, do you know of a way to enlarge the R interface or otherwise assist in making the program accessible to a low vision person? My limited understanding leads me to believe that screen magnifiers like zoom text don't work particularly well. If you have information on that, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks for your help and for bearing with me! Courtney I am a bit confused (a normal condition for me). Is the student writing R code or is the student running a application written in R? Also, since you mentioned Excel, I am assuming that the student is using a PC running Windows as opposed to Linux or a Mac. If the student is writing R code, then I'd suggest that your computer support person install Rstudio. It is cost free and can be downloaded here: http://www.rstudio.com/ . The installer can then customize Rstudio to use a really large font, if that would be helpful. Please forgive my lack of knowledge about accessibility issues. If the student has trouble typing (mobility issue?), this likely won't help. Would a speech to text / text to speech interface help instead of a screen magnifier? I know next to nothing about these tools, other than that they exist. === If the student is running an R application (which is what enter data for her implies to me), then any accessibility issues would need to be addressed in the application itself. But I don't understand why a data entry assistant would need any skills in R itself in order to enter data into it. But without knowing more, that's about all that I can say. One thought: CMU has a college teaching electrical and computer engineering. Depending on what that means, perhaps someone from that college (professor, TA, or grad student) could see what your student is doing and perhaps have some insights on how to help. Or is there a computer club on campus where some geeky student might be found? You might look here: http://www.club.cc.cmu.edu/ If these are true geeks (and the web site sounds promising), then a lure of beer pizza would likely be irresistible grin. === For interfacing R with Excel, you might want to look at RExcel here: http://rcom.univie.ac.at/download.html#RExcel . It has a free student version. But is this more for an Excel user who wants to use R for analysis, not an R user wanting to use Excel for data entry. -- Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be. My sister opened a computer store in Hawaii. She sells C shells down by the seashore. If someone tell you that nothing is impossible: Ask him to dribble a football. He's about as useful as a wax frying pan. 10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone Maranatha! John McKown [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] help for lay person assisting R user with disability
Given that neither you nor the student are (skilled?) R users, I think you would do better contacting someone locally for help -- there will be many in the statistics and social sciences departments (among others). There are several R packages that interface with Excel (e.g. RExcel), but it may merely be a matter of reading in text files via R's native facilities (e.g. read.csv ) . A local resource can best help you sort out what would work best in your situation imho. Cheers, Bert Bert Gunter Data is not information. Information is not knowledge. And knowledge is certainly not wisdom. -- Clifford Stoll On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Courtney Bryant cbry...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: Good Morning, I am currently working with a disabled R user who is a student here at CMU. The student has both sight and mobility issues. The student has asked for an assistant who is well versed in R to enter data for her, which we are having a hard time finding. I would like information from R developers/users about how/how well R interfaces with Excel (an easier skill set to find!) In your opinion, could it be as easy as uploading data from excel into R? Also, do you know of a way to enlarge the R interface or otherwise assist in making the program accessible to a low vision person? My limited understanding leads me to believe that screen magnifiers like zoom text don't work particularly well. If you have information on that, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks for your help and for bearing with me! Courtney Courtney Bryant, EOS Specialist Equal Opportunity Services, Human Resources Carnegie Mellon University 412-268-3930 | cbry...@andrew.cmu.edu __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] help for lay person assisting R user with disability
On 18/06/2015 11:32 AM, Courtney Bryant wrote: Good Morning, I am currently working with a disabled R user who is a student here at CMU. The student has both sight and mobility issues. The student has asked for an assistant who is well versed in R to enter data for her, which we are having a hard time finding. I would like information from R developers/users about how/how well R interfaces with Excel (an easier skill set to find!) In your opinion, could it be as easy as uploading data from excel into R? Also, do you know of a way to enlarge the R interface or otherwise assist in making the program accessible to a low vision person? My limited understanding leads me to believe that screen magnifiers like zoom text don't work particularly well. If you have information on that, I would very much appreciate it. There was an article not too long ago in the R Journal about this issue; you can read it here: http://journal.r-project.org/archive/2013-1/godfrey.pdf I think the main R thing that has changed since then is the rise in the prominence and maturity of RStudio. At that time the author didn't find it very easy to use, but it might be worth investigating again. The author put together a web page http://r-resources.massey.ac.nz/StatSoftware/ that you might find useful as well. Duncan Murdoch __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] help for lay person assisting R user with disability
Almost 20 years ago my son was in the DO-IT program at the University of Washington http://www.washington.edu/doit/. They have been very proactive in reaching out to other institutions. They have been solving problems such as yours and I suspect can suggest several workable solutions. Clint Clint BowmanINTERNET: cl...@ecy.wa.gov Air Quality Modeler INTERNET: cl...@math.utah.edu Department of Ecology VOICE: (360) 407-6815 PO Box 47600FAX:(360) 407-7534 Olympia, WA 98504-7600 USPS: PO Box 47600, Olympia, WA 98504-7600 Parcels:300 Desmond Drive, Lacey, WA 98503-1274 On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Liz Hare wrote: Hi Courtney and John, The RStudio environment mentioned below will not work with speech output (I tried with Window-Eyes awhile ago). Some of my clients use it but I have no experience with it. Since the student is partially sighted, they might be able to customize the environment with big fonts and contrast, I’m just not sure. Using a screen reader like Window-Eyes, the student could use the R GUI environment, although it’s a little frustrating because it doesn’t speak a lot and you need to use the mouse keys a lot. The other option if you have to stick with Windows is to run R at the command prompt, which makes interaction slightly easier but you’d have to figure out how to log the output. What is being recommended for the rest of the students in the class? Ideally, this student’s experience should be as close as possible to the others’. Liz On Jun 18, 2015, at 12:17 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Courtney Bryant cbry...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: Good Morning, I am currently working with a disabled R user who is a student here at CMU. The student has both sight and mobility issues. The student has asked for an assistant who is well versed in R to enter data for her, which we are having a hard time finding. I would like information from R developers/users about how/how well R interfaces with Excel (an easier skill set to find!) In your opinion, could it be as easy as uploading data from excel into R? Also, do you know of a way to enlarge the R interface or otherwise assist in making the program accessible to a low vision person? My limited understanding leads me to believe that screen magnifiers like zoom text don't work particularly well. If you have information on that, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks for your help and for bearing with me! Courtney I am a bit confused (a normal condition for me). Is the student writing R code or is the student running a application written in R? Also, since you mentioned Excel, I am assuming that the student is using a PC running Windows as opposed to Linux or a Mac. If the student is writing R code, then I'd suggest that your computer support person install Rstudio. It is cost free and can be downloaded here: http://www.rstudio.com/ . The installer can then customize Rstudio to use a really large font, if that would be helpful. Please forgive my lack of knowledge about accessibility issues. If the student has trouble typing (mobility issue?), this likely won't help. Would a speech to text / text to speech interface help instead of a screen magnifier? I know next to nothing about these tools, other than that they exist. === If the student is running an R application (which is what enter data for her implies to me), then any accessibility issues would need to be addressed in the application itself. But I don't understand why a data entry assistant would need any skills in R itself in order to enter data into it. But without knowing more, that's about all that I can say. One thought: CMU has a college teaching electrical and computer engineering. Depending on what that means, perhaps someone from that college (professor, TA, or grad student) could see what your student is doing and perhaps have some insights on how to help. Or is there a computer club on campus where some geeky student might be found? You might look here: http://www.club.cc.cmu.edu/ If these are true geeks (and the web site sounds promising), then a lure of beer pizza would likely be irresistible grin. === For interfacing R with Excel, you might want to look at RExcel here: http://rcom.univie.ac.at/download.html#RExcel . It has a free student version. But is this more for an Excel user who wants to use R for analysis, not an R user wanting to use Excel for data entry. -- Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be. My sister opened a computer store in Hawaii. She sells C shells down by the seashore. If someone tell you that nothing is impossible: Ask him to dribble a football. He's about as useful as a wax frying pan. 10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone Maranatha! John McKown [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
Re: [R] help for lay person assisting R user with disability
Hi Jonathon Godfrey has published some information and guidelines on the accessibility of R (and other stat software), e.g., ... http://r-resources.massey.ac.nz/StatSoftware/ http://journal.r-project.org/archive/2013-1/godfrey.pdf Paul On 06/19/15 02:32, Courtney Bryant wrote: Good Morning, I am currently working with a disabled R user who is a student here at CMU. The student has both sight and mobility issues. The student has asked for an assistant who is well versed in R to enter data for her, which we are having a hard time finding. I would like information from R developers/users about how/how well R interfaces with Excel (an easier skill set to find!) In your opinion, could it be as easy as uploading data from excel into R? Also, do you know of a way to enlarge the R interface or otherwise assist in making the program accessible to a low vision person? My limited understanding leads me to believe that screen magnifiers like zoom text don't work particularly well. If you have information on that, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks for your help and for bearing with me! Courtney Courtney Bryant, EOS Specialist Equal Opportunity Services, Human Resources Carnegie Mellon University 412-268-3930 | cbry...@andrew.cmu.edu __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. -- Dr Paul Murrell Department of Statistics The University of Auckland Private Bag 92019 Auckland New Zealand 64 9 3737599 x85392 p...@stat.auckland.ac.nz http://www.stat.auckland.ac.nz/~paul/ __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] help for lay person assisting R user with disability
Hi Liz, This is a particularly sticky case – the student is attempting to get a PhD but is currently in between programs until her current project (which we’re attempting to hire an assistant for, or better yet some up with a solution she can work on her own) is completed and “accepted” in some way. I believe her main access issue is around mobility, she has little use of her hands. I wasn’t sure if sight was as much of an issue, but from what I’ve learned here it seems that enlarging the text itself is easy enough. I will double check with her about her computer – at the end of the day, if she is game, perhaps I could provide her with a mac. Courtney Bryant, EOS Specialist Equal Opportunity Services, Human Resources Carnegie Mellon University 412-268-3930 | cbry...@andrew.cmu.edumailto:cbry...@andrew.cmu.edu From: Liz Hare [mailto:dogg...@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:42 PM To: John McKown Cc: Courtney Bryant; r-help@R-project.org Subject: Re: [R] help for lay person assisting R user with disability Hi Courtney and John, The RStudio environment mentioned below will not work with speech output (I tried with Window-Eyes awhile ago). Some of my clients use it but I have no experience with it. Since the student is partially sighted, they might be able to customize the environment with big fonts and contrast, I’m just not sure. Using a screen reader like Window-Eyes, the student could use the R GUI environment, although it’s a little frustrating because it doesn’t speak a lot and you need to use the mouse keys a lot. The other option if you have to stick with Windows is to run R at the command prompt, which makes interaction slightly easier but you’d have to figure out how to log the output. What is being recommended for the rest of the students in the class? Ideally, this student’s experience should be as close as possible to the others’. Liz On Jun 18, 2015, at 12:17 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.commailto:john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Courtney Bryant cbry...@andrew.cmu.edumailto:cbry...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: Good Morning, I am currently working with a disabled R user who is a student here at CMU. The student has both sight and mobility issues. The student has asked for an assistant who is well versed in R to enter data for her, which we are having a hard time finding. I would like information from R developers/users about how/how well R interfaces with Excel (an easier skill set to find!) In your opinion, could it be as easy as uploading data from excel into R? Also, do you know of a way to enlarge the R interface or otherwise assist in making the program accessible to a low vision person? My limited understanding leads me to believe that screen magnifiers like zoom text don't work particularly well. If you have information on that, I would very much appreciate it. Thanks for your help and for bearing with me! Courtney I am a bit confused (a normal condition for me). Is the student writing R code or is the student running a application written in R? Also, since you mentioned Excel, I am assuming that the student is using a PC running Windows as opposed to Linux or a Mac. If the student is writing R code, then I'd suggest that your computer support person install Rstudio. It is cost free and can be downloaded here: http://www.rstudio.com/ . The installer can then customize Rstudio to use a really large font, if that would be helpful. Please forgive my lack of knowledge about accessibility issues. If the student has trouble typing (mobility issue?), this likely won't help. Would a speech to text / text to speech interface help instead of a screen magnifier? I know next to nothing about these tools, other than that they exist. === If the student is running an R application (which is what enter data for her implies to me), then any accessibility issues would need to be addressed in the application itself. But I don't understand why a data entry assistant would need any skills in R itself in order to enter data into it. But without knowing more, that's about all that I can say. One thought: CMU has a college teaching electrical and computer engineering. Depending on what that means, perhaps someone from that college (professor, TA, or grad student) could see what your student is doing and perhaps have some insights on how to help. Or is there a computer club on campus where some geeky student might be found? You might look here: http://www.club.cc.cmu.edu/ If these are true geeks (and the web site sounds promising), then a lure of beer pizza would likely be irresistible grin. === For interfacing R with Excel, you might want to look at RExcel here: http://rcom.univie.ac.at/download.html#RExcel . It has a free student version. But is this more for an Excel user who wants to use R for analysis, not an R user wanting to use Excel for data entry. -- Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes
