Re: [R-sig-phylo] phytools - evaluating significance of pgls.Ives

2015-03-02 Thread Andrea Berardi
Thank you all very much for the comments! They are so helpful. Yes, I do only have 8 species, and 3 replicates each. It is not ideal, but it's what we have and we have a phylogeny, so I'd like to try some tests incorporating phylogeny. I probably should have added that I plan on running OLS to

Re: [R-sig-phylo] phytools - evaluating significance of pgls.Ives

2015-03-02 Thread Theodore Garland Jr
From: R-sig-phylo [r-sig-phylo-boun...@r-project.org] on behalf of Andrea Berardi [andrea.bera...@colorado.edu] Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 3:57 PM To: r-sig-phylo@r-project.org Cc: Anthony R Ives; Peter Smits Subject: Re: [R-sig-phylo] phytools - evaluating significance of pgls.Ives

Re: [R-sig-phylo] phytools - evaluating significance of pgls.Ives

2015-03-02 Thread Anthony Ives
, 2015 2:49 PM To: r-sig-phylo@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R-sig-phylo] phytools - evaluating significance of pgls.Ives -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15-03-01 11:40 PM, Simon Blomberg wrote: Am I missing something? The OP only has 8 species in the data set. I wouldn't put

Re: [R-sig-phylo] phytools - evaluating significance of pgls.Ives

2015-03-01 Thread Simon Blomberg
R Ives [ari...@wisc.edu] Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:14 PM To: Andrea Berardi Cc: r-sig-phylo@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R-sig-phylo] phytools - evaluating significance of pgls.Ives Andrea, I second Liam’s recommendation to use a LRT. For measurement error, the latest code I have in matlab

Re: [R-sig-phylo] phytools - evaluating significance of pgls.Ives

2015-03-01 Thread Ben Bolker
Blackwell From: R-sig-phylo [r-sig-phylo-boun...@r-project.org] on behalf of Anthony R Ives [ari...@wisc.edu] Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:14 PM To: Andrea Berardi Cc: r-sig-phylo@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R-sig-phylo] phytools - evaluating

Re: [R-sig-phylo] phytools - evaluating significance of pgls.Ives

2015-03-01 Thread Simon Blomberg
] on behalf of Ben Bolker [bbol...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 2:49 PM To: r-sig-phylo@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R-sig-phylo] phytools - evaluating significance of pgls.Ives -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15-03-01 11:40 PM, Simon Blomberg wrote: Am I missing something

[R-sig-phylo] phytools - evaluating significance of pgls.Ives

2015-03-01 Thread Andrea Berardi
Hi all, I'm just learning how to do PGLS analyses, and I'm looking for advice on how to evaluate the significance of the regression fit using pgls.Ives in the phytools package. I'm using this function because it incorporates sampling error of species means, and my data has about 3 individuals

Re: [R-sig-phylo] phytools - evaluating significance of pgls.Ives

2015-03-01 Thread Liam J. Revell
Hi Andrea. This is not presently implemented, but since this is a likelihood method it would be straightforward to constrain to a slope of zero and then do a LR test. This would be probably be the easiest way to test a hypothesis about the regression. That being said, as noted in the

Re: [R-sig-phylo] phytools - evaluating significance of pgls.Ives

2015-03-01 Thread Anthony R Ives
Andrea, I second Liam’s recommendation to use a LRT. For measurement error, the latest code I have in matlab is MERegPHYSIGv2.m, which does both measurement error and an OU or Pagel-lambda transform (see Johnson, M. T. J., A. R. Ives, J. Ahern, and J. P. Salminen. 2014. Macroevolution of