RE: [racket-users] Racket 6.9

2017-04-29 Thread Jos Koot 
Thanks for all reponses of Gabrielle and van Dyke.
Very useful info.
Indeed I like WYSIWYG,
but nowadays I use scribble too (most scribble/manual)
(frequently rendering in order to see what I get and
looking into the docs in order to see how to get what I want)
A very nice thing of scribble is that you can make
elaborate procedures and syntax transformers,
much easier to write and more flexible and reliable
than Java macros in MS-word, I think.
And, of course, the @interaction[] and companions,
which I don't have in MS-word.
Thanks again, Jos 

-Original Message-
From: Neil Van Dyke [mailto:n...@neilvandyke.org] 
Sent: sábado, 29 de abril de 2017 22:29
To: Jos Koot; Racket Users
Subject: Re: [racket-users] Racket 6.9

Stephen De Gabrielle wrote on 04/29/2017 03:18 PM:
> Ubuntu Linux is cheap, includes an alternative to ms word, gets 
> regular updates and (most importantly) runs racket fine.

Debian, RHEL/CentOS, Fedora, ArchLinux, and (maybe) Ubuntu are all good 
choices for people who don't *have* to run Windows stuff. These are more 
secure, and grew out of open source traditions of respecting users' 
various technical and societal freedoms.  Debian is the most 
freedom-principles-oriented, Red Hat is the most professional, Arch has 
the most technically-savvy median user (I usually end up on the Arch 
wiki, for a more technical take on some unusual stuff I do with Debian), 
Ubuntu is the most ordinary-user popular.  There are other big ones that 
I wouldn't consider or recommend.  There are also some non-US 
region-oriented distros with emphasis on a particular language/culture, 
in features and in support forums, but you'd have to ask people from the 
region about those.

For much academic publishing, and for many non-academic book 
manuscripts, LaTeX is often a good way to go.  (Even if your book 
publisher doesn't use LaTeX for ultimate layout, you can write minimal 
LaTeX as almost plain ASCII text for drafts, if you can resist the 
traditional TeX thesis-avoidance behavior of fine-tuning your layout for 
camera-ready copy.  Same with Scribble.)  Or, since you're a Racket 
person, perhaps Scribble for papers, books, and slides.  If you want a 
WYSIWYG word processor veneer over LaTeX source, try LyX.  If you're an 
Emacs user, you might like AUCTeX, but even the older Emacs LaTeX/TeX 
support might be enough for you.

LibreOffice/OpenOffice is there on GNU/Linux for those users who really 
must have something MS Office-like, but it has many of the same security 
problems (design-fundamental, as well as code quality), and also doesn't 
work as well as MS Office under normal conditions, and MS doesn't want 
it to interoperate too well.

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RE: [racket-users] Racket 6.9

2017-04-29 Thread Jos Koot 
Thanks for both replies.
I'll remember them when shopping for a new computer.
 
I have 64 bit windows and downloaded 64 bit Racket 6.9.
Later I'll try 32 bit Racket, which should be accepted too
by 64 bit Windows.
 
Thanks again, Jos
 

  _  

From: Stephen De Gabrielle [mailto:spdegabrie...@gmail.com] 
Sent: sábado, 29 de abril de 2017 21:33
To: Jos Koot; Racket Users
Subject: Re: [racket-users] Racket 6.9


I just realised I have a Windows 7 (32bit) toshiba nb 200. 
DrRacket (32bit) launched with no problems. 

Check the operating system type(32-bit/x86 or 64-bit x64) is the same as the 
DrR download type.

Kind regards

Stephen

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 at 20:18, Stephen De Gabrielle <spdegabrie...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Ubuntu Linux is cheap, includes an alternative to ms word, gets regular updates 
and (most importantly) runs racket fine.

https://launchpad.net/~plt/+archive/ubuntu/racket

Kind regards
Stephen


On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 at 20:05, Jos Koot <jos.k...@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi
I have downloaded 6.9, but was warned that the file does not end in correct way.
Running the exe anyway gave a DrRacket that aborts after opening it.

I have Windows 7 with Bullguard protection.
 
In the past I saw the warning often for dayly night builds,
but ignoring the warning (almost) never gave problems.
 
Soon I'll switch to a more modern system
(preferably not with windows; what would be a cheap and yet good choice?
I also need a good replacement for Microsoft Office 2003.
I ask these questions here, because Racket (besides email and a replacement for 
Microsoft Word) is my most important tool.)
 
Thanks, Jos




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Re: [racket-users] Racket 6.9

2017-04-29 Thread Neil Van Dyke 

Stephen De Gabrielle wrote on 04/29/2017 03:18 PM:
Ubuntu Linux is cheap, includes an alternative to ms word, gets 
regular updates and (most importantly) runs racket fine.


Debian, RHEL/CentOS, Fedora, ArchLinux, and (maybe) Ubuntu are all good 
choices for people who don't *have* to run Windows stuff. These are more 
secure, and grew out of open source traditions of respecting users' 
various technical and societal freedoms.  Debian is the most 
freedom-principles-oriented, Red Hat is the most professional, Arch has 
the most technically-savvy median user (I usually end up on the Arch 
wiki, for a more technical take on some unusual stuff I do with Debian), 
Ubuntu is the most ordinary-user popular.  There are other big ones that 
I wouldn't consider or recommend.  There are also some non-US 
region-oriented distros with emphasis on a particular language/culture, 
in features and in support forums, but you'd have to ask people from the 
region about those.


For much academic publishing, and for many non-academic book 
manuscripts, LaTeX is often a good way to go.  (Even if your book 
publisher doesn't use LaTeX for ultimate layout, you can write minimal 
LaTeX as almost plain ASCII text for drafts, if you can resist the 
traditional TeX thesis-avoidance behavior of fine-tuning your layout for 
camera-ready copy.  Same with Scribble.)  Or, since you're a Racket 
person, perhaps Scribble for papers, books, and slides.  If you want a 
WYSIWYG word processor veneer over LaTeX source, try LyX.  If you're an 
Emacs user, you might like AUCTeX, but even the older Emacs LaTeX/TeX 
support might be enough for you.


LibreOffice/OpenOffice is there on GNU/Linux for those users who really 
must have something MS Office-like, but it has many of the same security 
problems (design-fundamental, as well as code quality), and also doesn't 
work as well as MS Office under normal conditions, and MS doesn't want 
it to interoperate too well.


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Re: [racket-users] Racket 6.9

2017-04-29 Thread Stephen De Gabrielle 
Wow. Background expansion really kills old hardware. Luckily I can turn it
off and use check syntax!

S.
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 at 20:32, Stephen De Gabrielle 
wrote:

> I just realised I have a Windows 7 (32bit) toshiba nb 200.
> DrRacket (32bit) launched with no problems.
>
> Check the operating system type(32-bit/x86 or 64-bit x64) is the same as
> the DrR download type.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Stephen
> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 at 20:18, Stephen De Gabrielle <
> spdegabrie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ubuntu Linux is cheap, includes an alternative to ms word, gets regular
>> updates and (most importantly) runs racket fine.
>>
>> https://launchpad.net/~plt/+archive/ubuntu/racket
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Stephen
>>
>> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 at 20:05, Jos Koot  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>> I have downloaded 6.9, but was warned that the file does not end in
>>> correct way.
>>> Running the exe anyway gave a DrRacket that aborts after opening it.
>>> I have Windows 7 with Bullguard protection.
>>>
>>> In the past I saw the warning often for dayly night builds,
>>> but ignoring the warning (almost) never gave problems.
>>>
>>> Soon I'll switch to a more modern system
>>> (preferably not with windows; what would be a cheap and yet good choice?
>>> I also need a good replacement for Microsoft Office 2003.
>>> I ask these questions here, because Racket (besides email and
>>> a replacement for Microsoft Word) is my most important tool.)
>>>
>>> Thanks, Jos
>>>
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Re: [racket-users] Racket 6.9

2017-04-29 Thread Stephen De Gabrielle 
I just realised I have a Windows 7 (32bit) toshiba nb 200.
DrRacket (32bit) launched with no problems.

Check the operating system type(32-bit/x86 or 64-bit x64) is the same as
the DrR download type.

Kind regards

Stephen
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 at 20:18, Stephen De Gabrielle 
wrote:

> Ubuntu Linux is cheap, includes an alternative to ms word, gets regular
> updates and (most importantly) runs racket fine.
>
> https://launchpad.net/~plt/+archive/ubuntu/racket
>
> Kind regards
> Stephen
>
> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 at 20:05, Jos Koot  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> I have downloaded 6.9, but was warned that the file does not end in
>> correct way.
>> Running the exe anyway gave a DrRacket that aborts after opening it.
>> I have Windows 7 with Bullguard protection.
>>
>> In the past I saw the warning often for dayly night builds,
>> but ignoring the warning (almost) never gave problems.
>>
>> Soon I'll switch to a more modern system
>> (preferably not with windows; what would be a cheap and yet good choice?
>> I also need a good replacement for Microsoft Office 2003.
>> I ask these questions here, because Racket (besides email and
>> a replacement for Microsoft Word) is my most important tool.)
>>
>> Thanks, Jos
>>
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Re: [racket-users] Racket 6.9

2017-04-29 Thread Stephen De Gabrielle 
Ubuntu Linux is cheap, includes an alternative to ms word, gets regular
updates and (most importantly) runs racket fine.

https://launchpad.net/~plt/+archive/ubuntu/racket

Kind regards
Stephen

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 at 20:05, Jos Koot  wrote:

> Hi
> I have downloaded 6.9, but was warned that the file does not end in
> correct way.
> Running the exe anyway gave a DrRacket that aborts after opening it.
> I have Windows 7 with Bullguard protection.
>
> In the past I saw the warning often for dayly night builds,
> but ignoring the warning (almost) never gave problems.
>
> Soon I'll switch to a more modern system
> (preferably not with windows; what would be a cheap and yet good choice?
> I also need a good replacement for Microsoft Office 2003.
> I ask these questions here, because Racket (besides email and
> a replacement for Microsoft Word) is my most important tool.)
>
> Thanks, Jos
>
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