Re: [rb-general] Core Debian reproducibility: how close?

2018-10-25 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 04:51:54PM -0400, Chris Lamb wrote: > > > For "reproducible installation images", TAILS has shown this can be done > > > today. Someone "just" needs to check the debian images and adopt the > > > changes done in TAILS. > > > > Sounds like no one has taken on that work,

[rb-general] tag cloud for our weekly blog (was Re: Core Debian reproducibility: how close?)

2018-10-25 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 09:27:08PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > [...] I mean, even if we > had a tag cloud like we used to have [...] can we have this back? iirc the old blog used ikiwiki and now we are using jekyll but surely jekyll has this feature? (we also had automated tagg

Re: [rb-general] Core Debian reproducibility: how close?

2018-10-25 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi David, your simple question is not that simple... :) On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:42:08PM -0400, David A. Wheeler wrote: > > > If there's an estimated time of arrival that'd be awesome... is > > > there one? > > As I am sure you are aware Debian doesn't, generally speaking, work > > on that

Re: [rb-general] Style Guide Updates

2019-01-18 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Elio, thank you very much for following up on this! On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 12:12:07AM +, Elio Qoshi wrote: > As I see it right now, you might have more usage for an actual redesign help > of the website, completely separate from the style guide. yes! > It would be good to know what

Re: [rb-general] salsa is fine

2018-12-14 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 07:05:49PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > > any objections to me enabling them? :) > Yes and no. :) :) > As in; I have nothing against moving to salsa (!) if we go that route, > we should just first firmly decide whether the BTS or salsa is the > canonical source of truth. I

Re: [rb-general] salsa is fine

2018-12-14 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 07:19:46PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > My reading of this is that (ignoring Debian-specific issues as they > are an "easy" case IMHO) salsa becomes the single source of truth; ie. > we both encourage and at least aim to forward/refile all "upstream" > bugs to Salsa.

Re: [rb-general] Reproducible Java builds with Maven

2018-12-05 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 02:49:24PM +0100, Arnout Engelen wrote: > One thing to decide on would be what kind of file format to use. while it is unfortunate that we will have many standards to choose from, I think it's unavoidable. > rfc822 is a bit foreign outside of Debian. true that. > I have

Re: [rb-general] r-b logo: pantone / RAL colors

2018-11-24 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:04:35PM +, Elio Qoshi wrote: > Pantone are proprietary colors yes, but they are also commonly used in print. no serious printshop acccepts RGB colors, as they might look different depending on the media etc. (alternatives are RAL or HKS, there are no free

Re: [rb-general] r-b logo: pantone / RAL colors

2018-11-24 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Anxhelo, thanks for your feedback! however... On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 11:07:04AM +, Anxhelo Lushka wrote: > Here you have the conversion to RAL for the main colors: > #1e5b96 --> RAL 5023 > #2b89d6 --> RAL 5012 actually I need them in pantone or HKS... > You can also use

[rb-general] r-b t-shirts for contributors (Re: r-b logo: pantone / RAL colors)

2018-11-24 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, so, yes, we are planning to have reproducible builds t-shirt for the summit, but those shirts will not be 'summit themed' and in genereal are also available to (past & present) contributors who cannot make it to the summit. the shirt design is not finalized yet, but they will be printed on

Re: [rb-general] r-b logo: pantone / RAL colors

2018-11-24 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Elio, On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 05:35:56PM +, Elio Qoshi wrote: > I did some research myself on this and I'd suggest > > Primary: > Pantone 647 C > > Secondary: > Pantone 2727 C > great, thank you! > Does that work? pretty sure it will, will know on monday. > Would you also like to

Re: [rb-general] r-b t-shirts for contributors (Re: r-b logo: pantone / RAL colors)

2018-11-24 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:23:51PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > the shirt design is not finalized yet, but they will be printed on black > cloth, with probably the logo without words on the front and the phrase > (in big) "Provide a verifiable path from source code to binary.&quo

Re: [rb-general] r-b logo: pantone / RAL colors

2018-11-24 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 05:35:56PM +, Elio Qoshi wrote: > Primary: > Pantone 647 C > > Secondary: > Pantone 2727 C and added to git, visible at https://reproducible-builds.org/style/visuals/ thanks again! -- cheers, Holger

Re: [rb-general] Reproducible Java builds with Maven

2018-11-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 12:26:33PM +0100, Arnout Engelen wrote: > Buildinfo is more of a general concept rather than a well-defined > specifciation, > what it looks like exactly will probably vary per 'ecosystem'. indeed. though we should have a specification about what .buildinfo file

[rb-general] r-b logo: pantone / RAL colors

2018-11-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Elio, the nice Reproducible Builds style guide has a section on colors, see https://reproducible-builds.org/style/visuals/#colors - however these are only RGB colors. For print (and in this case, specifically for printing t-shirts) I need to specify them as Pantone colors (as in

Re: [rb-general] Arch Linux Update

2019-01-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Jelle, please excuse my late reply...! On Sun, Dec 09, 2018 at 08:38:58PM +0100, Jelle van der Waa wrote: > 1. Pacman > 2. BUILDINFO > 3. The repro tool > 4. Reproducible Builds environment > 5. Packaging [...] this is all wonderful information, thanks (again) for writing it up and sharing

Re: [rb-general] [jvm] How to share rebuilder attestations

2019-01-07 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 01:39:35PM +, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Bit-for-bit reproducibility should be our goal, but it's not a _sine qua > non_. In a pinch, out of pragmatism, one can get by with less. For > example, if there were some binary package whose rebuilds are identical > up to the

Re: [rb-general] Reproducible builds discussed in Apache Software Foundation (ASF) legal-discuss mailing list

2019-01-24 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 06:08:47PM -0500, David A. Wheeler wrote: > FYI, the "legal-disc...@apache.org" mailing list is having an active > discussion about doing reproducible builds for Apache Software Foundation > (ASF) projects under the topic "RE: Binary channels". You can see that here: >

Re: [rb-general] Definition of "reproducible build"

2019-01-24 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Marvin, thanks for reaching out to us reproducible-builds.org folks! On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 03:10:44PM -0800, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > Over on the legal-discuss list at the Apache Software Foundation, we are > currently discussing reproducible builds. > >

Re: [rb-general] Introduction for Outreachy Contribution.

2019-02-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Nidhi, On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 09:13:26PM +0530, nidhi kumari wrote: > I'm Nidhi Kumari from India. I'm an outreachy 2019 aspirant. I wanted to > contribute to Debian in Reproducible built projects. I'm experienced in > python and a beginner in bash. Welcome to Reproducible Builds & Debian &

Re: [rb-general] MY INTRODUCTION TO DEBIAN COMMUNITY

2019-02-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Kerlyn, On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 06:30:40AM +0100, Nkep Kerlyn wrote: > I am a Computer Engineer(Telecoms Major) from Buea, Cameroon. I recently > completed undergraduate studies from the University of Buea. nice, congrats! > I am interested in contributing to the Debian community during and

[rb-general] Debian buster, 54% reproducible in practice (Re: Core Debian reproducibility: 57% and rising!)

2019-03-01 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, it's been some time... ;) On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 07:27:31AM +, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > David A. Wheeler wrote on Mon, 29 Oct 2018 06:22 -0400: > > >I would skip the numbers or put them last in the news bit. I'm working on something like this now, and hope to have it ready by tomorrow

Re: [rb-general] Finding Packages With Tests

2019-02-21 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:57:21AM -0500, Omar Navarro Leija wrote: > > when you say "reproducibly" here, do you mean 'repeatable'? > I mean it in the same way as reproducible-builds.org, our research is > largely inspired by the DRB effort! oh, nice! > Yeah... We plan to move up once the

Re: [rb-general] Finding Packages With Tests

2019-02-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 10:56:05AM -0500, Omar Navarro Leija wrote: > I'm part of a team at UPenn researching tools for building package > reproducibly. We use the Debian Apt Repo for our testing. Currently, we're > verifying "correctness" for our builds, that is, does the package not only >

Re: [rb-general] Core Debian reproducibility: 57% and rising!

2019-02-20 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 05:42:58PM -0700, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: > On 2018-10-27, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: > > Ok, I've found at least one package in the required set, with three > > distinct .buildinfo files that converged on the same .deb: > ... > > We're now officially beyond mere theory! >

Re: [rb-general] Dwarf Fortress does reproducible... worldgen

2019-02-25 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:48:46AM +0100, Eric Myhre wrote: > The developer of Dwarf Fortress reported some "butterfly-effect style" bugs > in deterministic world generation this week: > http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/#2019-02-21 > Reproducible builds: it's not just for compilers, it's for

[rb-general] Debian Buster will only be 54% reproducible (while we could be at >90%)

2019-03-05 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, disclaimer: this has not yet been verified by anyone other than myself, so I could very well be wrong. Reproducible builds are about enabling anyone to independently verify that... ;p == Reproducibility in theory == According to

Re: [rb-general] Debian buster, 54% reproducible in practice (Re: Core Debian reproducibility: 57% and rising!)

2019-03-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi John, On Sat, Mar 02, 2019 at 02:31:41PM -0800, John Gilmore wrote: > > Though without solving #894441 we cannot reach much higher than 80%=20 > > (because 93% is the current theoretic maximum, of which we need to=20 > > distract 12% binNMUs...) > > Even without solving the general binNMU

[rb-general] openSUSE reproducibility (Re: Core Debian reproducibility: how close?

2019-03-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Bernhard, On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 09:19:56PM +, Bernhard M. Wiedemann wrote: > On 23/10/2018 14.51, David A. Wheeler wrote: > > How close is the core of Debian to being reproducibly built? By > > core I mean the packages that you always have to install no matter > > what. > >

Re: [rb-general] Greetings and Questions

2019-03-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Anh, On Sat, Mar 02, 2019 at 08:16:06AM -0800, Anh Pham wrote: > My name is Anh Pham and I am interested in contributing to Reproducible > Builds project as an Outreachy applicant! yay & welcome to Reproducible Builds & Debian & Outreachy & thank you for your interest in contributing! > May

Re: [rb-general] Definition of "reproducible build"

2019-02-14 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi John, On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 11:18:43PM -0800, John Gilmore wrote: > =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= wrote: > > I agree that insisting on provenance is crucial. Dockerfiles (andsimilar) > > are often viewed as “source”, but they really aren’t source:the actual > > source would come with

Re: [rb-general] Uploading buildinfo files to buildinfo.debian.net

2019-02-15 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Vagrant, I've just been re-reading this old and joyful thread... :) On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 12:56:20PM -0700, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: > I started the process of uploading all the .buildinfo files available on > ftp.debian.org to buildinfo.debian.net. > > Then I hope to set up a cron job to

Re: [rb-general] Reproducible build of a GCC cross-compiler?

2019-06-12 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 05:41:54PM +0200, Bernhard M. Wiedemann wrote: > On 12/06/2019 15.07, Bernhard M. Wiedemann wrote: > > I'll also test a cross-ppc64le-gcc8 build to see if it behaves worse, > > but would not expect so. > For the record: the cross compilation was also reproducible (without

Re: [rb-general] upcoming mailing list maintenance

2019-05-09 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, May 09, 2019 at 11:25:01AM +0200, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > And this is done! > If you are receiving this mail it means everything went well :) yay, all is well :) (also confirmed in the headers..) Thank you, Mattia for doing this move and many thanks to the fine folks at potager.org for

Re: [rb-general] Reproducible builds and distributed CI

2019-05-21 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 04:46:33PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > there was a GSoC project for OpenWrt (maybe under the LEDE name back > then) which was based on a similar idea: build software updates in the > cloud and only packages which can be build reproducible on several > nodes. I

Re: [rb-general] openSUSE reproducibility (Re: Core Debian reproducibility: how close?

2019-04-30 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 04:01:16PM +0200, Bernhard M. Wiedemann wrote: > > are there any plans to fix this and enable those macros? (eg a bug where > > you track this.) > opened one now: > https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1133809 yay! > Thanks for the nudge. thanks for biting! ;)

Re: [rb-general] Bug#862073: Uploading buildinfo files to buildinfo.debian.net

2019-04-29 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 04:53:16PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > - https://buildinfos.debian.net - this service exist since March 2019 to expand on this: provides two views: https://buildinfos.debian.net/ftp-master.debian.org/buildinfo/ - this has the same contents as /srv/ftp-master.debian.

Re: [rb-general] Debian Buster will only be 54% reproducible (while we could be at >90%)

2019-04-29 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Mar 09, 2019 at 09:15:34PM +, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: [packages uploaded before December 2016, which didnt see binNMU since then, dont have a .buildinfo file (and were built with a dpkg which produces unreproducible packages] > So I guess after we release buster, we should do a

Re: [rb-general] Change front page definition

2019-04-18 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi David, sorry for the delay in replying. On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 11:25:25AM -0400, David A. Wheeler wrote: > The front page has this definition: > > > Reproducible builds are a set of software development practices that create > > an independently-verifiable path from source to binary code.

Re: [rb-general] [JVM/Scala] Progress report: promising but not quite there yet

2019-04-18 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Arnout, On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 01:20:21PM +0200, Arnout Engelen wrote: > I just wanted to share some promising progress around Reproducible > Builds for Scala libraries (on the JVM). > > Recently the first non-trivial Scala library was released with my > sbt-reproducible-builds plugin

Re: [rb-general] Uploading buildinfo files to buildinfo.debian.net

2019-05-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, please note that https://buildinfos.debian.net/buildinfo-pool/ is currently being recreated and thus not have all data again yet... (I've added support for 3 (and more) .buildinfo files with the same name and noticed that the numbered links were created in the wrong order, thus the

Re: [rb-general] Uploading buildinfo files to buildinfo.debian.net

2019-05-02 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:43:11AM -0700, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: > On 2019-04-29, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: > > It seems to be missing the .buildinfo.N, which in some cases are the > > actual .buildinfo files built by the buildd's and the corresponding .deb > > files shipped in the archive. > > >

Re: [rb-general] Article about reproducible builds and how they get used at F-Droid

2019-07-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Nico, On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:22:59AM +0200, Nico Alt wrote: > some months ago, I had the pleasure to write an article about > reproducible builds and how they get used at F-Droid. Two weeks ago, > this article got published in c't, a major German computer magazine: > >

Re: [rb-general] using consistent terms

2019-07-10 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 03:41:22PM +0200, Bernhard M. Wiedemann wrote: > So should we standardise on "unreproducible" and "nondeterministic" ? yes, please. > The other question would be British or American English? > or we dont care... i'd almost say the latter. -- tschau, Holger

Re: [rb-general] Bug#926242: jenkins.debian.org: Please test reproducibility status of Debian Installer images

2019-07-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 10:27:02AM -0300, Chris Lamb wrote: > So, I heard a vague rumour that this "buster" thing was released? I > was thus wondering whether we could apply my patch from: > https://bugs.debian.org/926242#127 https://bugs.debian.org/926242#117 makes me think this is not to be

Re: [rb-general] Bug#926242: jenkins.debian.org: Please test reproducibility status of Debian Installer images

2019-07-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 11:47:34AM -0300, Chris Lamb wrote: > > > So, I heard a vague rumour that this "buster" thing was released? I > > > was thus wondering whether we could apply my patch from: > […] > > https://bugs.debian.org/926242#117 makes me think this is not to be > > applied against

Re: [rb-general] Change front page definition

2019-04-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 02:17:53PM -0400, David A. Wheeler wrote: > > It might be non-obvious from where those copies are coming from, or IOW > > that the hashes of these sources are part of the build instructions. > I don't think that should be specified in the definition. > It shouldn't matter

Re: [rb-general] Change front page definition

2019-04-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 10:47:42AM -0400, Eli Schwartz wrote: > Done! > https://salsa.debian.org/reproducible-builds/reproducible-website/merge_requests/31 cool, thank you. > Who is in favor? that's exactly why I'm not merging this, I want other people agreeing this change is good & what we

Re: [rb-general] New multi-arch enhancements

2019-04-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 02:31:49PM +, Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB) wrote: > > thanks. whats knight? :) > Knight is an ancient 16/32/64bit Big Endian architecture which can be > implemented in TTL > https://github.com/oriansj/stage0/blob/master/ISA_HEX_Map.org#instruction-listing > > The

Re: [rb-general] New multi-arch enhancements

2019-04-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 01:49:19PM +, Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB) wrote: > > neato & thanks for sharing. what are those 5 architectures? looking *very > > briefly* add the above two URLs I couldnt figure it out... > Knight-native > Knight-Posix > ARM (v6+v7) > X86 > AMD64 thanks. whats knight?

Re: [rb-general] Change front page definition

2019-04-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi David, thanks for persisting on this. Directly commenting on your proposal: On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 05:03:18PM -0400, David A. Wheeler wrote: > A build is reproducible if given the same source code, build environment, > and build instructions, any party can independently verify all specified

Re: [rb-general] FYI: Reproducible builds of the Linux kernel

2019-09-18 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Ben, On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 07:38:14PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > [I'm not subscribed, so please cc me if you reply.] ack. > I added a document to the Linux source about how to make it build > reproducibly, based on what we've done in the Debian package: >

[rb-general] RFC: 5th Reproducible Builds Summit 2019 in Marrakesh

2019-08-01 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, as some have noticed via the git commits, preparations for the 5th Reproducible Builds Summit 2019 in Marrakesh have begun. Please go to https://reproducible-builds.org/events/Marrakesh2019/ and read on there, the format will (probably) slightly change...! And, also, *please*, don't yet

Re: [rb-general] RFC: 5th Reproducible Builds Summit 2019 in Marrakesh

2019-08-01 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 03:59:01AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > I'd like many of you to answer this little poll, by directly replying to > me. forgot to mention: the idea is to publish the poll results in roughly 2 weeks and then also (hopefully) finalize dates and location, so you ca

Re: [rb-general] file(1) now with seccomp support enabled

2019-07-26 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 05:55:43PM -0400, Eli Schwartz wrote: > Over in Arch Linux we have opted instead to disable seccomp in file(1) > entirely -- it completely breaks common workflows that require looking at > files, and there's no way an application can actually know how to make it > work.

[rb-general] upgrading (some) test nodes to buster

2019-08-09 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, I've started to upgrade our testnodes hosted at OSUOSL to Debian Buster, which translates to these nodes with these purposes. osuosl167 (http-proxy for osuosl nodes) osuosl168 (r-b F-Droid builds) osuosl169 (r-b Archlinux builds) osuosl170 (r-b Archlinux builds) osuosl171 (r-b OpenWrt,

Re: [rb-general] registration opened for Reproducible Builds summit in December 2019 in Marrakesh

2019-09-27 Thread Holger Levsen
heya, On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 10:35:51PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > https://reproducible-builds.org/events/Marrakesh2019/ has more > information about the event. this page now also has information about alternative housing options near by. currently we still have 18 beds ava

Re: [rb-general] Interested In Reproducible Builds Summit 2019

2019-09-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Omar, On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 10:00:34AM -0400, Omar Navarro Leija wrote: > Thank you everyone for their feedback. Sounds good. I will work on a draft > of our paper that we can share with people interested. I will report back > to my lab and see about coming! cool, looking forward to hear

Re: [rb-general] Interested In Reproducible Builds Summit 2019

2019-09-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Omar, hi Kelly, thanks a lot for reaching out and please excuse the/my small delay in replying. On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 06:13:59PM -0400, Omar Navarro Leija wrote: > We are both doctoral students at the University Of Pennsylvania. We are > part of a collaboration between UPenn and University

Re: [rb-general] [Git][reproducible-builds/reproducible-website][master] Misc æsthetic cleanups to homepage.

2019-09-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 09:05:32AM +, Chris Lamb wrote: > bbc3bf37 by Chris Lamb at 2019-09-23T09:04:49Z > Misc æsthetic cleanups to homepage. [...] > +([See all]({{ "/news/" | prepend: site.baseurl }})) and > +([See all]({{ "/news/" | prepend: site.baseurl }})) first off, thanks for

Re: [rb-general] mescc-tools-seed v1.1 Released

2019-11-09 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 12:18:59PM +, Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB) wrote: > I am proud to announce the release of mescc-tools-seed v1.1 > https://github.com/oriansj/mescc-tools-seed > > Capable of bootstrapping from a simple hex assembler all the way to a > cross-platform C compiler (M2-Planet)

Re: [rb-general] Reproducible Builds with Maven

2019-11-09 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 06:50:09PM +0100, Hervé Boutemy wrote: > I'm happy to announce that today I released 3 base Maven plugins (source, jar > and assembly) to get Reproducible Builds as direct Maven build output: see > "Configuring for Reproducible Builds" documentation [1] for more details

[rb-general] TZ=UTC wrong?

2019-10-30 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, (changed to: to debian-devel, added the r-b general list as cc: and bcc:ed Niko and Guillem.) the following came up in "#791362: perl: build timezone affects LOCALTIME_{MIN,MAX}": On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 09:00:15PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 12:28:32PM +0100, Guillem

Re: [rb-general] progress in rpm and openSUSE in 2019

2019-12-10 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 11:57:38AM -0500, Eli Schwartz wrote: > > wow, cool, that might be something for Archlinux...! > I don't believe this is related to us as we (per policy) try to avoid > using pip to install packages. Our solution to a package being > unreproducible because it uses pip's

[rb-general] for those who have and haven't registered for the r-b summit in Marrakesh

2019-11-19 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, if you have registered for https://reproducible-builds.org/events/Marrakesh2019/ you have been subscribed to an summit internal mailinglist, which is used solely for logistics for the summit. If you have not seen these mails, you are not registered for the summit, though you can still do

Re: [rb-general] progress in rpm and openSUSE in 2019

2019-11-30 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Bernhard, many thanks for this detailed summary. I've added a summary and a link to the monthly report.. On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 04:31:29PM +0100, Bernhard M. Wiedemann wrote: > In my reproducibleopensuse repo, I added > >

Re: [rb-general] GNU Mes 0.21 released

2019-11-30 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Janneke, On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 07:21:36PM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > We are pleased to announce the release of GNU Mes 0.21, representing > 54 commits over 10 weeks. [...] very cool! (& I've added it to our monthly report.) -- cheers, Holger

Re: [rb-general] [Git][reproducible-builds/reproducible-website][master] Misc æsthetic cleanups to homepage.

2019-09-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 12:21:45PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > As some background, I actually deliberately merged the two pages as they > kind of have the same role and it was yet another navigation item agreed > - {% for post in site.posts limit: 5 %} > + {% for post in site.posts %} > > ...

Re: [rb-general] [Git][reproducible-builds/reproducible-website][master] Misc æsthetic cleanups to homepage.

2019-09-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 01:05:37PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > I see and share this sentiment, so why not bump the limit instead of > removing it entirely? I would agree that the older entries are a little > dated. what number would you suggest? I'd suggest something like 15 (and not less or

Re: [rb-general] pyfai package

2019-10-06 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sun, Oct 06, 2019 at 10:53:24AM +, PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: > Now it seems that the problem is in the man pages of the program [2]. > pyfai generates its man pages, with help2man. that's probably

Re: [rb-general] What is the goal of reproducible builds?

2019-12-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Bernhard, On Mon, Dec 09, 2019 at 02:39:43PM +0100, Bernhard M. Wiedemann wrote: > TLDR: > The goal of reproducible builds is to reduce the likelyhood of running > software that was corrupted (during build) > > > At https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/reproduciblebuilds-goal > I added a small

Re: [rb-general] Stage0 Release 0.4.0, M2-Planet Release 1.5.0 and mescc-tools-seed Release 1.2

2020-02-28 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Jeremiah, On Mon, Feb 03, 2020 at 10:38:41AM +, Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB) wrote: > Today I am pleased to announce the following releases: > https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/stage0/ > https://github.com/oriansj/stage0 > https://github.com/oriansj/M2-Planet >

Re: Research on Reproducible Builds

2020-02-28 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Omar, On Sun, Feb 09, 2020 at 05:14:00PM -0500, Omar Navarro Leija wrote: > It was great meeting so many people at the Reproducible Builds Summit 2019! indeed & thank you again for contributing to it! > Our publication "Reproducible Containers" will be presented in March at > ASPLOS 2020.

Re: [rb-general] Quick reproducible test for GNU Guix

2020-02-28 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Vagrant, On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 03:08:59PM -0800, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: > I did some quick reproducibility testing running GNU Guix, and so far > got pretty good results: > > Using guix (and packages) built from commit: > f83d07f7778b699d46741a5667113342f5f0a737 > > $ guix challenge

Re: [rb-general] offical Debian docker images reproducible? (Re: Reproducible system images)

2020-01-30 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 01:35:13PM -0800, Tianon Gravi wrote: > I'd personally be happy to see more of this as part of debootstrap > itself, but from what I've seen debootstrap isn't very actively > maintained these days (which is understandable, given that for the > purposes of things like d-i,

[rb-general] help needed: twitter irc bot down

2020-01-15 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, as you might have noticed, ReproBird, our friendly irc bot relaying messages concerning reproducible builds from twitter and also allowing us to post there, is down. Lunar, who thankfully has been operating it for many years, couldnt get it to restart again (it now just eats memory until it

Re: ismypackagereproducibleyet.org is working

2020-04-16 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Bernhard, On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 01:47:38PM +, Bernhard M. Wiedemann wrote: > As discussed on the last summit in Marrakesh, I made a working draft for > https://ismypackagereproducibleyet.org/ wow, that's super awesome! long term (or sooner) we should think how to integrate this into

Re: welcome reproducible-maven-HEAD with 29% success so far

2020-04-12 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 09:39:35PM +0200, Hervé Boutemy wrote: > one week later, here is the result: we are at 97% > 85 sub projects on 87 have reproducible builds > https://github.com/jvm-repo-rebuild/reproducible-maven-HEAD > isn't it great? wow, very neat! kudos! (& thanks for sharing this

Re: Please review the draft for March's report

2020-04-06 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Chris, On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 02:06:03PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > Please review the draft for March's Reproducible Builds report: > https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2020-03/?draft looks good to me, thanks! -- cheers, Holger

Re: rebuilding Maven Central Repository artifacts: welcome reproducible-central

2020-03-28 Thread Holger Levsen
HiHervé, On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 06:33:12PM +0100, Hervé Boutemy wrote: > I'd like to announce a new important step for Reproducible Builds for the JVM: > reproducible-central. > > The intent is to provide easy to run reproducible recipes, to let anyone > rebuild a component from Central

Re: Research on Reproducible Builds

2020-03-31 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Omar, On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 09:55:27AM -0400, Omar Navarro Leija wrote: > Here is the 20 minute presentation of our Reproducible Containers project. > It is a lot more bite-size than the paper :3 > https://youtu.be/NuDIZqBdM08 I get 'this video has been removed by the uploader' - do you

Re: Research on Reproducible Builds

2020-03-31 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:16:47AM -0400, Omar Navarro Leija wrote: > Sorry about that. The sound setting where off in the original video so they > had to reupload the video. The new (and hopefully permanent link) can be > found here: https://youtu.be/YkmS-vf12nE thanks! downloading now, to watch

Re: Link to weekly news broken on rb debian page sidebar

2020-03-30 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 01:16:00PM -0700, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: > On 2020-03-29, Boyuan Yang wrote: > > I'm just writing to let you know that the link to weekly news at the > > sidebar of https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/debian/reproducible.html > > is now broken. It still uses the old

Re: [rb-general] help needed: twitter irc bot down

2020-04-30 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 07:05:42PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > as you might have noticed, ReproBird, our friendly irc bot relaying > messages concerning reproducible builds from twitter and also allowing > us to post there, is down. > > Lunar, who thankfully has been operat

Re: make reproducible-builds.org translatable?

2020-04-14 Thread Holger Levsen
hi Hans, On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:55:39AM +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Guardian Project currently working making translation of Markdown-based > websites work much better, particularly focused on Weblate as the > translation platform. If people thought it was a good idea, we could >

Re: Reproducible Builds Verification Format

2020-05-20 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, i'm just replying to two small sub points here, I still need to find the time for a proper general reply. (Besides: YAY, I'm glad we're finally having this discussion here and several proposals to discuss!) On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 08:31:21PM +, kpcyrd wrote: > The buildinfo is an output

Re: [announce] diffoscope 144 released

2020-05-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Dear Chris, On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 10:58:03PM -, Chris Lamb wrote: > The diffoscope maintainers are please to announce the release of > version 145 of diffoscope. \o/ > diffoscope tries to get to the bottom of what makes files or > directories different. [...] > Version 145 includes the

Re: Evaluation of bundling .buildinfo in .deb proposal

2020-08-31 Thread Holger Levsen
Dear Chris, On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 12:02:03PM -, Chris Lamb wrote: > (As an obiter dictum, are we sure it was Holger who was proposing this > idea in the talk, rather than mentioning it? I think he has previously > echoed my view on the "no special tools" principle, hence this minor >

summary of r-b irc meeting, 20201012

2020-10-13 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, so we had our first IRC meeting and 12 people participated, yay! The automated summary is at http://meetbot.debian.net/reproducible-builds/2020/reproducible-builds.2020-10-12-17.58.html we had two action items: - vagrant will provide a summary of the brainstorming topic - sangy or

Re: r-b irc meeting, this coming Monday, at 18 UTC

2020-10-12 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, just a small reminder... On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 10:03:11AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > this is a reminder for our IRC meeting in three days: > Monday, the 12th of October > at 18:00 UTC > on #reproducible-builds on irc.oftc.net > the agenda

reproducible builds summit 2020 canceled

2020-09-24 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, not to surprise anyone, we have decided to formally announce that there will be no Reproducible Builds Summit in 2020, also no online event. We hope to have a Reproducible Builds Summit in 2021 but won't start thinking about it before 2021 neither. We'll see how things are in half a year or

Re: date chosen (Re: resuming regular r-b IRC meetings)

2020-09-30 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, a small typo correction: On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 04:53:53PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > Monday, the 12th of October > at 18:00 UTC > on #reproducible-builds on irc.ofct.net irc.oftc.net is correct > the agenda is

date chosen (Re: resuming regular r-b IRC meetings)

2020-09-30 Thread Holger Levsen
5:04:57PM +0000, Holger Levsen wrote: > so some of us have come to agree that we would like to resume regular > irc meetings about reproducible builds. > > we propose to generally have general meetings, not specific to any distro, > which should act as coordination type meetings, whe

resuming regular r-b IRC meetings

2020-09-24 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, so some of us have come to agree that we would like to resume regular irc meetings about reproducible builds. we propose to generally have general meetings, not specific to any distro, which should act as coordination type meetings, where people can share news, bring up topics and ask for

r-b irc meeting, tomorrow, Monday, at 18 UTC (DST changes)

2020-10-25 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, this is a reminder for tomorrow's meeting: On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 04:31:16PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > The next meeting will take place on: > Monday, the 26th of October > at 18:00 UTC > on #reproducible-builds on irc.oftc.net > the agenda

Re: [diffoscope] diffoscope.org not resolving (was: "Re: Command `unsquashfs -n -f -no -li -d . a/yakshaveinc_73.snap` failed")

2020-08-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 08:47:59PM +0200, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > Afaik only Holger has access to the DNS management interface (including > payments, renewal, etc) at Gandi. not according to the Gandi (I just logged in and checked) and 'whois diffoscope.org' returns NS1.POTAGER.ORG as

Re: [diffoscope] diffoscope.org not resolving (was: "Re: Command `unsquashfs -n -f -no -li -d . a/yakshaveinc_73.snap` failed")

2020-08-04 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 07:12:06PM +0300, Anatoli Babenia wrote: > As for the DNS issue, it looks like the domain expired. thankfully this has been fixed by Lunar now. -- cheers, Holger ---

Re: Please review the draft for June's report

2020-07-05 Thread Holger Levsen
Dear Chris, On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 10:54:34AM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > Please review the draft for June's Reproducible Builds report: > https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2020-06/?draft looks good to me, thank you for your tireless work on the reports! -- cheers, Holger

r-b irc meeting, this Monday, at 18 UTC (so in 49h from now)

2020-11-21 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, this is a reminder for our IRC meeting in 49h: Monday, the 23rd of November 2020, at 18:00 UTC on #reproducible-builds on irc.oftc.net the agenda is at https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/reproducible-builds-meeting-agenda Currently the agenda is rather empty,

r-b irc meeting, this Monday, at 18 UTC (so in 49h from now)

2020-12-07 Thread Holger Levsen
hi, this is a reminder for our IRC meeting in 5h: today, Monday, 7th of December 2020, at 18:00 UTC on #reproducible-builds on irc.oftc.net the agenda is at https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/reproducible-builds-meeting-agenda Currently the agenda is rather empty,

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