Richard Sachs builds his bikes around the top tube length. However, he
assumes a 100 cm stem and a certain reach on the bar. That is why Sachs
frames have really odd frame angles with numbers like 72.454 The angles fit
around the top tube based upon a 1 meter wheelbase
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at
I would run a 13 - 28 8 speed with that but would rather have a 26-38-48 up
front
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:
The new 50.4 bcd TA Cyclotourist copy crankset is now in stock at VO.
Looks very nice and shiny! The stock 46-30 combo seems like it
My view is that if you need to push your saddle so far back, do so, it's
where your butt wants to be given the riding style. If you can't achieve
that position with a normal or at least available seatppost, the seat tube
angle needs to be numerically lower - a custom frame perhaps.
After that
eRitchie designs all frames for a 1000mm wheelbase?
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Fai Mao i.am.fai@gmail.com wrote:
Richard Sachs builds his bikes around the top tube length. However, he
assumes a 100 cm stem and a certain reach on the bar. That is why Sachs
frames have really odd
On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 20:33 -0700, Bill M. wrote:
At one point I had five flats in six days on the CdlV's.
Are you sure that wasn't more like one flat repeated five times because
you failed to remove the embedded wire? I'm guessing a wire because
sometimes they're almost impossible to see. I
I've used these brakes for a few rides now. They work well, but they
shed brake material like I've never seen. My rims are coated with
black brake dust from 2 rides. These pads won't last long.
I think I'll try some SwissStop Black pads or VO's squeal free ones.
Anyone use either?
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Here's why I made my assumption:
i tense up and apply the brakes a little. I sit down reflexively to
lower my center of gravity, which we all do when it looks like we are
going to fall. To not do this requires extraordinary will power and
confidence.
Instantly, your Quickbeam starts to shake
The top tube should really be measured from a point in space that is
directly above the bottom bracket spindle to the center of the headset
lock nut and level with the lock nut.
One way to grasp the concept embodied in the phrase “the top tube is
not important” is to visualize, or simply look at,
Every woman I know has had a tremendously hard time fitting frames (whatever
the maker) due to reach. They try to correct with super short stems,
Terry shorter reach bars, compact levers, etc. This is after they size down
a frame from what they could/should be riding based on PBH. For
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:49 PM, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote:
it's a factor for me too - 84.5 pbh and 5'11 for me.
not totally sure how to compensate.. i end up pushing the seat way back and
putting the bars up high .. but i think that unweights the front end a bit
too much, and
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Bob Cooper
robertcoo...@frontiernet.net wrote:
The top tube should really be measured from a point in space that is
directly above the bottom bracket spindle to the center of the headset
lock nut and level with the lock nut.
I think that's an important
In my case, the saddle position is the very first variable to be determined
and set, and everything else is measured off of that. I like a distance from
saddle nose (Flites and Turbos) of 3 to 3.5 inches behind bb center. This
means that, with the 71* st, the saddle is more or less centered,
on 8/10/10 4:38 AM, Rene Sterental at orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's why I made my assumption:
i tense up and apply the brakes a little...
(snipped)
That was a follow up post made by Bob C. Not the original post.
Further, I'm not quite sure why this was referenced to Angus' Quickbeam,
Hey Everyone, Maybe some one can help me, I am looking for a Acorn Tan
Rando bag. I have the Saddle bag and would like the matching front,
But being in Canada, I am not privileged enough to purchase them. So
I am hoping some one might have a used one they would like to sell to
me. Oh, I have
I give VO a lot of credit for making these cranks. Until now, there
weren't many options for wide range compact doubles, and most of those
cranks (TA Pro 5 Vis, TA Carmina, White Industries, etc.) are
exceedingly expensive.
The cyclotourist gives the gear range of a triple with a simpler
double
Mike, for a range like that I was going to use a Campy medium cage
dérailleur an prob. an 11-32 8 spd xtr cassette. I've been using that
dérailleur with a 50-34 and 13-29. I just picked up a long cage
Centaur dérailleur if I need to switch to that. I like to ride in the
San Gabriel Mountains
Top Tube Length
When you draw enough frames (and one may be enough') you'll see that
the forwardmost point of a fixed-length top tube depends on the drop
(barely) and the seat tube angle (heavily), and that alone---with
nothing else added to the discussion---illustrates that a 57cm tt on
one bike
Perhaps I was more controversial in the title of my original post than
I intended. I meant 'discount' as in, you know, discount:
1 : a reduction made from the gross amount or value of something
Some people think TT length is THE most important dimension on a
bike. Every one of you has read a
I give VO a lot of credit for making these cranks. Until now, there
weren't many options for wide range compact doubles, and most of those
cranks (TA Pro 5 Vis, TA Carmina, White Industries, etc.) are
exceedingly expensive.
Exceedingly how? I hardly doubt TA and the White family (the
Grant: question re Sam Hill: does the particular geometry of this frame (56
cm in particular) go less well with a rearward weight bias and shortish stem
and highiss bars than for a frame with steep st and lower bars, ie, making
the front end lighter than optimal, so that you get a feeling of
Thanks, folks!
I've e-mailed the Hudz folks (the makers of the hoods used in the
build referenced in Eric's link) to discover what they know about
compatibility between any of their offerings and the two drop-bar
linear-pull brake levers of which I'm aware (Tektro RL-520 and Dia-
Compe V-287). (I
I think at the heart of the matter is the notion of length/angle (or
magnitude/phase) pairs, which in mathematics/physics are known as a
vectors:
http://www.physics.uoguelph.ca/tutorials/vectors/vectors.html
To me, when it comes to how a bike *fits* a rider, there are only two
vectors on a bike
Vectors?! Next you're going to ask me to handle polar coordinates!
Just kidding. You're totally right. I'm working on drawing those out
on all my bikes.
On Aug 10, 9:46 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:
I think at the heart of the matter is the notion of length/angle (or
Thanks for setting me straight again! :-)
I obviously missed the beginning of the thread. My apologies to the OP... :-)
René
On 8/10/10, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
on 8/10/10 4:38 AM, Rene Sterental at orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's why I made my assumption:
i tense up
A lot of larger online retailers that sell brake levers will often
have replacement hoods for them, if they're available. For instance,
here jenson has replacement hoods for the shorter pull cane creek aero
levers (which will also work on the tektro R200), in both black and
gum:
A side by side comparison of the TA's and the new VO cranks, both in
appearance and function, would be interesting. I'm sure there is some
trade off between price and quality (and labor economics). And we all
know that even the best vendors in the bike business work hard for
their dollar.
On
I think the whole idea of top tube length not mattering might be a
bit controversial because it seems SO EMPHASIZED in the rest of the
bicycle industry as THE KEY MEASURE of bicycle fit. Sales and
marketing teams have gotten lazy with trying to explain how compact
frame designs designated as
This note on the frame drawing thread struck me, as both Andrew and
Patrick Moore have said the same thing. I'm surprised, actually, that
even on the slacker (even by Riv standards) Hillbourne seat tube you
still feel the need to push the saddle so far back, though that would
certainly
oh - whups that's actually a long TT at 622.. not sure why i thought
it was short.
so maybe that's part of it.
Well, my stats (phb 84.5, 5'11, short limbs, all torso) have always made bike
fittings hard. with typical road bikes i've been way too far forward out
over the front wheel, and it
Greetings.
As an utter newbie here - heck, I don't even own a Rivendell - this
may be an inappropriate posting. If so, please forgive my ignorance.
I'm looking to buy an All Rounder frame for restoration and rebuild.
Due to genetic laziness and a bit of procrastination, I just yesterday
missed
Kevin,
You may want to mention what size you're looking for.
Bill
In a message dated 8/10/2010 6:41:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lindsey.ke...@gmail.com writes:
Greetings.
As an utter newbie here - heck, I don't even own a Rivendell - this
may be an inappropriate posting. If so,
On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 12:00 -0700, kevin lindsey wrote:
Greetings.
As an utter newbie here - heck, I don't even own a Rivendell - this
may be an inappropriate posting. If so, please forgive my ignorance.
I'm looking to buy an All Rounder frame for restoration and rebuild.
Due to genetic
But I do like spices!
Shaun Meehan
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What size are you looking for? There's a Riv All-Rounder on eBay
right now:
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On Aug 10, 2:00 pm, kevin lindsey lindsey.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
Greetings.
As an utter newbie here - heck, I don't even
I don't understand this wandering effect in the front end. I'm on a
56cm Hillborne with a VO 30mm setback seatpost with the B17 almost all
the way back ( long femurs) and the bike seems rock solid. I have not
had any load on it but the bike is the most stable bike I've ever
owned. FTR Im 5' 11
Missed this topic... was backpacking supplies in to some John Muir
Trail through hikers over Kearsarge pass in the Sierra's.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347...@n05/sets/72157624690965960/
But Doug you forgot the high real estate prices, aggressive drivers
and arid, desert like hills.
~Mike~
Dang Mike
Before kids we used to do Onion Valley every year. My best ride on my
old Orange XO1 was the descent/climb from Onion Valley down to
Independence and back. The kids are old enough now to go back.
Thanks for showing that it's right where I saw it last.
Bill
On Aug 10, 4:54 pm,
In my case, Riv installed the hs, and it is fine; and again, saddle setback
is the First Principle and immutable; can't move it for something as minor
as handling. My other Rivs are the epitome of butt-back, light on the front
absolutely error free handling; the Sam Hill feels as if it were
one hour to the showdown! It would be nice to have but I'd want to re-
paint it. If it goes for under a Thou. I mght be tempted...
~Mike~
On Aug 10, 6:03 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
BUT, that still leaves me wondering if I am just slightly outbid. I ponder
the
question
I bid my absolute max just now, and I am leading. I'll be fine with
losing if I lose, and happy with winning if I win. Based on where the
price is now, I'd say I'm about 80% sure I'll be sniped out of it, but
I'm fine with that. The seller sounds like a cool guy and I hope he
is happy with what
I had a post, a while back, regarding questions about the Rivendell
Silver/Tektro R556 brakes, in regard to a 700c conversion that I was
considering for an older Schwinn Paramount 27 wheel size bicycle.
This isn't strictly speaking a Rivendell content post, but I think it
has some relationship to
At any rate, I'm pleased with the conversion.
I'll bet you are! Very good job. Mr. Schwinn looks right handsome in
his Riv clothes.
This isn't strictly speaking a Rivendell content post, but I think it
has some relationship to the type of bikes that Rivendell is building,
especially the
That really came out nice. I dunno, but polished lugs, a front rack,
a triple,...looks pretty Rivish to me. The matching pump plus single
bottle cage is cool. Hey, I recognize those shifters - got a few of
those myself; they're the best.
dougP
On Aug 10, 6:44 pm, JoelMatthews
Jim,
that bike is gorgeous.
On Aug 10, 9:39 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote:
I had a post, a while back, regarding questions about the Rivendell
Silver/Tektro R556 brakes, in regard to a 700c conversion that I was
considering for an older Schwinn Paramount 27 wheel size bicycle.
This
Calling all Bay Area members of the RBW Owners Bunch. I am clearing up
the garage of some major parts which might be useful to members.
First up for sale is a used but not abused Ambrosio 700c wheel set
[Campagnolo] I am not familiar with Campy so I don't know the
particular hubs used. My son
This was an interesting thread; it got me to try out some shimmy for
myself. I've never experienced speed wobble or shimmy before.
Riding the Quickbeam on a flat road at about 14 mph, with 40mm tires
and 8-10 lbs in a front bag, I sat up no-hands and whacked the
handlebars sideways.
Someone got a good deal!
Ryan
On Aug 9, 11:40 pm, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh man, that is beautiful...and perfectly sized for me
Hm, I could buy it...as long as I can come and live with someone on
the list, 'cause I'd be lookin' for new digs once my wife found
Agreed. I would have thought just the frame would have sold close to
that. Throw in Honjos, XTR wheels, and Mafac brakes and that's a
deal. I've been thinking about selling my Rambo frame to finance
another but if that's the going rate I think I'll keep riding it.
On Aug 10, 8:00 pm, rcnute
I don't recall it, but it would have been spelled Eowyn.
http://www.arwen-undomiel.com/character_bios/eowyn.html
That name won't fly now, but I didn't need much prompting to find a
nice photo of Miranda Otto.
Bill
(who first read LOTR circa 1971, and always favored Eowyn over Arwen).
On Aug
Joel,
Thanks for your comments! I hope Grant (whom I talked with while I
was working on this conversion) would agree that the result was
satisfactory. I certainly give him credit for influencing Tektro to
manufacture the long-reach sidepull model brakes (although I'm sure
his intent wasn't just
Doug, Rene and ejg,
Thanks for your remarks. The Paramount has been a nice ride for many
years, and I expect it will continue!
Jim
On Aug 10, 7:42 pm, Rene Valbuena valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Jim,
The conversion is very neat and it shows that it was well-though of.
Rene
Beautiful. The old Paramounts were kind of like Rivendells before
Rivendell. Beautiful lugs, wonderful to ride, loads of clearance,
great all-around bikes.
On Aug 10, 7:42 pm, Rene Valbuena valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Jim,
The conversion is very neat and it shows that it was well-though
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote:
I don't recall it, but it would have been spelled Eowyn.
http://www.arwen-undomiel.com/character_bios/eowyn.html
That name won't fly now, but I didn't need much prompting to find a
nice photo of Miranda Otto.
Bill
(who
If I remember right, I paid a thousand bucks for my Rambouillet frame, fork
and headset.
That buyer got a great deal.
Ken
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:07 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.comwrote:
Agreed. I would have thought just the frame would have sold close to
that. Throw in Honjos,
Jim-
Thanks for the pics. Your Paramount is stunning, just gorgeous. You
did a magnificent job!
Enjoy,
Doug
Boulder, CO
On 8/10/10 7:39 PM, Jim Cloud wrote:
I had a post, a while back, regarding questions about the Rivendell
Silver/Tektro R556 brakes, in regard to a 700c conversion that I
Yeah, the winning price was about $100 more than my max. My max was
sincere, and I'm fine with losing. I would have built it right up and
rode it straight away, but I'll live with the stable I've got.
On Aug 10, 8:17 pm, Ken Mattina ken.matt...@gmail.com wrote:
If I remember right, I paid a
a new (and very spiffy looking roadeo - but threadless :()
and a 59cm lightly-used hilsen:
http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/salukia-homer-hilsen-specials/50-322
just in case you didn't notice it today.
-sv
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On Aug 10, 4:30 pm, Rene valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Calling all Bay Area members of the RBW Owners Bunch. I am clearing up
the garage of some major parts which might be useful to members.
First up for sale is a used but not abused Ambrosio 700c wheel set
[Campagnolo] I am not familiar
william,
i'm sorry you didn't win. i had hoped, at that price, you were the
high bidder.
it was indeed a great deal for someone.
if i didn't already have a roadeo and a riv road custom (someone
else's custom), i'd have been tempted.
if i buy anything in addition to what i have, it's got to fit
Thank you for point that out. I added a photo of the rear hub. The
hubs are Ambrosio-made and not by Campagnolo.
http://tinyurl.com/2ukz4pn
Thanks.
Rene
On Aug 10, 8:35 pm, bfd bfd...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Aug 10, 4:30 pm, Rene valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Calling all Bay
Area members of the
Kim
That's what I'm drawing along with Grant! A 650B Rambouillet that
fits Hetres. I just need to pick my builder. Losing this auction
bumps that project up a notch.
living with defeat Bill
On Aug 10, 8:50 pm, kps kshe...@gmail.com wrote:
william,
i'm sorry you didn't win. i had hoped, at
Maybe it should start with an N? ( your builder that is)
BTW I was waiting and could have sniped it...just sold a 29er hardtail
and got cash! but I've got a similar plan on the 650B side.
I'm sure it will work out in the end.
~Mike~
On Aug 10, 9:42 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
Kim
Bill, in THAT case, you shouldn't feel defeated at all! I think a
650B w hetres sounds awesome! Why not Riv custom/Nobilette?
Whichever boulder you choose, here's to your new bike. :-) Kim
On Aug 10, 11:42 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
Kim
That's what I'm drawing along with
Mike and Kim
A Nobilette Riv would be delightful. Definitely in the running.
On Aug 10, 10:05 pm, kps kshe...@gmail.com wrote:
Bill, in THAT case, you shouldn't feel defeated at all! I think a
650B w hetres sounds awesome! Why not Riv custom/Nobilette?
Whichever boulder you choose, here's
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