On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 6:40 PM Eric Daume wrote:
> Riv framesets come with a headset installed. That's the hardest job for a
> home mechanic, in my experience.
>
Not if you use a hammer. Seriously, this is how I installed my first ones,
but those were cheap steel and I was lucky. No, don't try
>> stupid!
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ica.") (I later came to what sense I had and had a coaster brake
installed.)
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> Alas, I think that the only way to get personal experience sufficient to
> learn how you really want to build up a bike is lengthy and expensive trial
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Thanks, all. I suppose the best thing to do is to try some good 42 mm tires
-- I agree that 42 mm is a good width for pavement with firmer dirt or
gravel, at least in my 559 size.
OTOH, since the Somas roll so well and handle very nicely ?
After Jay mentioned his Fargo, I remembered that I'd
narrower -- for lighter weight and perhaps handline a wee bit "crisper."
* ~Actual widths for both OR and SSVSL.
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> I'll recommend the REI "Sahara" cargo pants for occasions when you want to
> ride a bike to an event where shorts are inappropriate. T
Lovely photos; thanks for sharing them.
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I'll recommend the REI "Sahara" cargo pants for occasions when you want to
ride a bike to an event where shorts are inappropriate. They're on sale
now, too:
spacer when I saw
>> so many oil slick option in 1 1/4 inch. Sure enough, the BMXers came
>> through with the 1 in for me.
>>
>>
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>> On May 24, 2024, at 11:27 AM, Wesley wrote:
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>> You know you're in deep wh
This is starting to remind me of the early '90s.
Patrick Moore, who once built a gofast '92 XO-1 with bright purple anodized
Sun M14A "semi-aero" rims (and later ruined them with Easy Off -- left them
at the curb for the recycling truck).
On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 6:41 AM Bicycle Belle
SaaS -- Shifting-as-a-Service, and "your personal power assistant." I love
it.
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:41 AM Robert Calton wrote:
> To add an amusing, cynical thought: can you imagine Shifting-as-a-Service?
> New fully integrated wireless 5G groupsets charge you $10/month for 1,000
> shifts
t; Cherries are CNC machined in Oakland, CA on the same equipment that makes
> surgical pins & screws. Get 'em tight, and have 'em for life.”
> The saddle is a Berthoud Galibier. A bit more narrow (and Ti rails) than
> their normal offerings.
>
> Hope this is helpful.
>
> Best,
IMO this ties with the other customized Platypus featured here recently for
"nicest-looking Platypus in list history," and it probably wins the award
for "most attention paid to aesthetics" in list history. Note: I think very
many of the Rivs posted are lovely to look at.
Me, as with Mitch, "I am
Even quads! -- very briefly; Mountain Tamer Quad. Too finicky, IME.
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 2:58 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> ... , but I've used singles, doubles, and triples on various 26" wheel
> bikes.)
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bout any reasonable high and
reasonable low with this sort of setup.
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all-rounder, and mountain bikes each with customized gearing. (My 2 current
26-ers are road bikes -- 29" for off road -- one fixed or with 2-speed IGH
fixed h
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I'd like to try latex tubes (hell, I'd like to try TPUs if they had a
better reputation) but latex tubes aren't made in 559" wheel sizes.
Has anyone tried and had success with installing appropriately wide latex
tubes in smaller diameter wheels by folding the tube to fit? Results?
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to 60 psi, 559 X 42 and 559 X 28, slightly lower psi in front
than rear) and I am very happy to report that this works well. I guess I'll
continue to be happy with this arrangement for a while longer.
Everybody: If you experiment with TPUs, please keep the list informed.
Thanks.
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r for the boat we were living aboard. It turned
> out very heavy so we never used it, preferring our inflatable kayaks.
>
> The fliptail is probably a bit lighter but I don’t think it’s really a
> great combo with a bike. Would love to be wrong, though!
> -Wes
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> On Saturday, May
on the Matthews because with 158 mm Logic (triple converted to
double) there is far more throw on the 7402 than needed -- whence a
"manual" stop when I shift -- while the design limit on the 7400 ought to
be just right for this Logic.
On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 3:15 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
>
Patrick,
>
> How is it to take a tube with sealant out of the tire after the sealant
> has fixed a hole? Do they stick to each other?
>
> Chris
>
> Make a space for people to come as they are and not have to just “fit in”
>
> On May 11, 2024, at 2:11 PM, Patrick Moore wrot
keep in touch after the build, hopefully with a
> successful report and some glamor shots :)
>
> On Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 4:54:47 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Robert: If you will be using a 9 speed cassette, I'll go out on a limb
>> and predict that the first-gen D
nce every 3 or 4 months in lp tubeless tires in our dry climate; in
very dry hot weather ~3 months, in colder, more humid weather, ~4 months.
On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 2:52 PM Ted Durant wrote:
>
> >
> > On May 11, 2024, at 3:23 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
> >
> > 'd love to
1, 2024 at 4:40:32 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Forgot to address one of your questions: * Does me running 11-36
>> cassette have anything to do with the front derailleur choice?*
>>
>> It might, since with such a small outer cog the chain will be closer to
I'd guess that will not be a
problem for you.
On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 2:29 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> I've not used a first-gen DA FD, but I have used a 7400 and a 740n --
> either 01 or 02; I think it's the latter. Again, it shifts very well over a
> 44/28 and also did so ove a 38/24.
>
>
Saturday, May 11, 2024 at 2:54:01 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Robert: About 10 years ago I swapped out a 3X7 drivetrain on my 2010
>> Fargo for a 2X9. The 3X7 consisted of 46/36/24 rings pulling (iirc) a 15-24
>> 7sp cassette, and I swapped that out for a 38/24 X so
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Oh: and your coffee, music, snack food.
Coffee: old man taste: strong, rich, black, no sugar. As a tutor long ago
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aft rolls into a
> tidy little 5lb burrito and fits very nicely on the rack. In addition to
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I forgot to add that the one summer I worked in a bike shop, a great deal
of my work was tuneups for low-end '90s mtbs that had been sitting in
garages or sheds for years. Many came with Grip Shift. I don't recall ever
one of these systems being unrepairable, tho' I did occasionally find
. (Wait ...)
Really, to fully inoculate yourself against all this sort of thing, reduce
your entire bike stable to fixed gears.
Patrick Moore, who fondly remembers hot-rodding a 1992 XO-1 with purple
anodized 370 gram Sun M14As, Specialized 26X1" Turbos, a 12-19 7-sp with
Topline SL triple, and
Sheesh. Clock *running.*
On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 3:21 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> ... 18.14 miles averaging 13.21 mph with clock very much stopped for all
> the lollygagging and backtracking at the Balloon Park and elsewhere.
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On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 3:21 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> A local news station reported yesterday (
> https://www.kob.com/new-mexico/new-mexico-to-host-usa-cycling-collegiate-road-national-championships-this-weekend/)
> that,
> after the road race this morning there would b
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Oh, and I forwarded the video link to Jeremiah; he will appreciate it.
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On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 8:23 PM Jay wrote:
> ... I measure setback on both bikes and the Fargo is coming out as saddle
> 5.5cm setback from BB, 7cm on the Roadini.
>
There's the reason for the difference. I've always (well, since Grant
taught me to do this 30 years ago) started assembly and fit
On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 11:40 AM Patrick Moore wrote:
> ... With horizontals or track ends and a good steel internal cam QR you
> could have yourself a very good time without the need for a lousy (and FWIW
> considerably less that I paid for my TF hub). A 44 X 17/20/24 would give
>
We had a similar conversation back in February and, among the topic
discussed was, why 3X1 instead of 1X3? Bill pointed out that commercially
available 3 speed fws of good quality with huge tooth gaps are hard to
find, whereas anyone can find a triple crank.
But I keep coming back to theoretical
And sorry for the upside-down shell; trigger is rightside-up.
On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 3:25 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 3:11 PM Ian A wrote:
>
>> 1) Thank you for the correct use of "could not care less", instead of the
>> incorrect "
better on the ASC.
And it's all silver! With aluminum shell.
Just made a short but very pleasant detoured grocery run, carrying home 39
lb in front and rear Ortlieb roll-tops.
I know you don't care, but I do and I had to crow.
Over and out.
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;>> I promise not to be offended by a great wave of advice coming my way
>>>> here - I have asked for it and you all have kindly delivered.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, ok….I really will consider drop bars. But I do wonder…everyone says
>>>> they offer so many hand
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ant routes they're not the sort that
merits videotaping. If I were say in Old Town Albuquerque it might be
different.
Others in interesting locales, please post videos of your own errand rides.
Patrick Moore, who lived in Old Town Quebec and remembers Empress
(Victoria!) market in Karachi where fl
Welcome back, congratulations on the Clem, and thanks for the binocular
suggestion. I lean toward the Carson since its price is more in line with
my very occasional and casual use, and because it's so compact.
On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 11:09 AM Gordon Stam wrote:
> Hello all,
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Rivendell
> Road Standard, a 61 Bleriot, and a 60cm Bombadil.
>
> - Chris
>
> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 2:55:36 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
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>> Thanks, Dave. I think I might fall between sizes, between the 52 and the
>> 59 and, inclined to go small, the 52 alas is s
night on my ride by grabbing the front of my Billie bars. It
> felt nice to be stretched out like that, but with no access to brakes or
> shifters from there I didn’t like to stay long. Unnerving.
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Patrick Moore, who has (has had?) both and now rides without glasses or
contacts with implanted plastic lenses.
On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 7:15 PM Leah Peterson
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> Yes, George, 81cm , and here’s where I have to put a plug in for the
> ca
I generally look up to Garth's advice, but I'll contradict him here: the
point is not level or sloping top tube but saddle to bar relationship. My
"ideal" level tt/fist of sp size is 60X56 c-c but the most perfectest fit
of all is on that too-much described '99 Riv custom that has a 57 c-c st,
nd an
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sp Shimano cogs to build up 14-28 10
sp cassettes, and with these spacers, I'm a convert to AliExpress for
cheap, decent small parts.
On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 11:49 AM Patrick Moore wrote:
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>
> Thanks, Garth; you're fingers are obviously more deft than mine.
>
>
I don't expect to be using them much or
> are too rough to bring more expensive binoculars. Tiny, expendable, very
> small eye relief, but surprisingly decent handling for the size.
>
> A 6x18 monocular is smaller but the bins give a better view.
>
> -Dave
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project on the horizon,
> and having that target in mind can help focus the exchange
> Finally, Patrick Moore has been sitting on a frame set, with a 5-year-long
> narrative of intents to build it. That's the only machine in his
> possession that I know of that could feasibly "
uch or
> are too rough to bring more expensive binoculars. Tiny, expendable, very
> small eye relief, but surprisingly decent handling for the size.
>
> A 6x18 monocular is smaller but the bins give a better view.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 6:35:55 PM UTC-4 Pa
Yes; please keep them coming.
Aside, to all: suggestions for a usable but inexpensive, small, and easily
stowable binocular or monocular for very casual sightings while riding
around? For some reason I lost or tossed a nice palm-size binocular and I'd
like to replace with with something that
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Thanks, Dave. I think I might fall between sizes, between the 52 and the 59
and, inclined to go small, the 52 alas is spec'd for 650B instead of my
preferred 700C. But perhaps a 59 would be alright as long as I don't want a
drop bar.* I don't know my PBH but a 60 X 56 c-c fits perfectly with 9 cm
Thanks for the clarifications and precisions. I'm more auditory than visual
so I do appreciate the apercus of someone who is visual about the Clem's
appearance. Also, can the Clem take wider tires than the Platypus? At any
rate, if I ever get a Clem, it will be for dawdling about on pavement and
r 17, 2024 at 11:15 AM Patrick Moore wrote:
> FWIW, I read a few years ago that using a chain 1 generation more advanced
> than one's cassette improved shifting because the later and narrower chain
> avoids rubbing on adjacent cogs a wee but noticeable bit better than the
> earlier chain.
not quite as lovely as the current Barcon + 7402 + 10
sp cassette build from proper 10 sp cogs carrying 11 sp chain.
Patrick Moore, who also found that small-barrel Retrofriction dt shifters
shifted 10 sp Am Classic close ratio cassettes very, very well, back circa
2003-2005.
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 8:
a modern (at least per Sheldon in 2010) iteration:
https://web.archive.org/web/20121029092003/http://www.sturmey-archer.com/products/hubs/cid/3/id/18/specs/1
But I think that the stamping reads "8" and not "3" -- again, AB hub, wide
ratio, plus drum brake, 1938.
So, over and o
+ 1 for the old Suntours.
OTOH, I got wonderful friction shifting with gen-1 Silvers, a Microshift
road rear derailleur, and a home-brew 9-speed cogset (used 9 sp spacers but
cogs were probably mix of 9, 8, 7, and possibly Uniglde). So a great deal
depends on the match between shifter and
ease the binder bolts before you tighten
>>>>>>>>>>>> them down. They ship to us dry and they have a tendency to gall
>>>>>>>>>>>> and not
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cruising gear.
So, once the Ali Express spacers order arrives I'll bump at least that cog
out with 2.35s or perhaps 2.18s.
On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 1:45 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> For the new 14-25 knobby cassette I bought 3 14-25
.
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first custom 26" wheel Riv road bike in 1995 -- and who still has 3/4 of
that lump of beeswax that he bought from Rivendell not much later; fun
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what do you use for the small
> cog next to the lockring ? I see only the 11t and 12t serrated cogs are
> sold, but I know Miche and Shimano sell cassettes with 13,14 and 15t
> smallest cogs. Do you just tighten up against a regular cog without the
> serrations ?
> On Friday,
10 sp cassetted made from
10 Miche cogs and 9 2 mm spacers, without any derailleur adjustment; so who
knows. I did order 2.18 mm ones to split the difference.
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Here's one benefit of very long chainstays:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xXRjXv_4v0
You couldn't do that on any of my road Rivs or my Sam.
Patrick Moore, who used to use his right foot to brake the 24" front wheel
in 28"-wheel fork on his very first build when riding the fw bi
Piaw: It's easy and, thanks to AliExpress, relatively cheap to build your
own cassettes from loose parts -- at least, perhaps not for really huge
cogs. But a half step + granny could give me, anyway, nice close cruising
gears in the 75" to 60" range plus a downhill gear or two and some low
bailout
t least, I have
found no evidence to the contrary -- shifting is wonderful, as it is with
the same chain and the cassette made from 1.6 mm Shimano cogs and the same
2 mm spacers.)
On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 8:58 AM Patrick Moore wrote:
> ... At any rate, an 11 speed chain works fine on those 10
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Thanks, Garth; I get that impression. I'll probably order lots of both 2.0
and 2.35. Thanks again for the link.
Patrick Moore, who would find life much easier if he really knew what he
was doing (but then again, that's what lists are for).
On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 12:22 PM Garth wrote:
>
Perhaps -- guessing -- the 2.0 spacer is for 11 sp cassettes, and the
(consistently measured) 2.04 mm plastic ones are so made to accommodate a
bit of compression which the 2.0 (consistent) aluminum ones don't suffer?
So: 2.0 = 11 speed?
2.35: 10 speed?
2.54: 9 speed?
Cogs:
11 speed: ?
10
, 2024 at 11:43 AM Patrick Moore wrote:
> *ISO* at least 7 and better 9, 10-speed spacers. Happy to salvage from
> worn out cassette. Please? $, trade, or charity.
>
> *Question: *Where can I find a reliable chart showing manufacturer's
> (Shimano; not interested in other mf
Re-threading this:
Thanks, Garth; you're fingers are obviously more deft than mine.
But a question, because now I'm confused (per other thread): how wide are
Shimano 10 sp spacers?
You say 2.35, Sheldon says 2.35mm, mine measure consistent 2.04 mm -- the
red plastic ones I ordered from Cycle
priced, I'd be
grateful to hear of them.
Thanks.
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 2:34 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> Welp, the otherwise very competent LBS that built my new Oracle Ridge
> wheelset flubbed my special order of a dozen 10-sp Shimano spacers. I stole
> the spacers from the older, S
Paul: I'll take them!
Patrick Moore
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> i have up for grabs the three most recent issues of BQ--nos. 83, 84, and
> 85. yours for $9, paypal f+f or cash.
>
> thanks
> paul
> takoma park, md.
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ht and packable. So the idea is you never have to
> worry about locking/staging anything and just bring everything with you on
> all legs of the trip!
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"They" is the unspecified general predicate, not "Rivendell."
On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 2:02 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> ... Do they make kayak-specific bikes?
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and Quickbeam. I really like the cushy ride of
> supple tires. But a tire that flats nearly every time I ride is of no use
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