Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-26 Thread ted
Without including time taken in your goal function peak efficiency probly occurs at close to a walking pace. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-26 Thread Doug H.
Efficient in my mind is the least amount of effort in traveling a given distance. I do understand that efficiency is not always the most important factor. If you enjoy fixed riding then keep on keeping on. And, I enjoy your ride reports Deacon. Doug -- You received this message because you

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-26 Thread Doug Hansford
Efficient in my mind is the least amount of effort in traveling a given distance. I do understand that efficiency is not always the most important factor. If you enjoy fixed riding then keep on keeping on. And, I enjoy your ride reports Deacon. Doug Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 26, 2018, at

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-26 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Doug wonders if fixed gear makes cycling less effecient. Less effecient at what? Greatest speed per kilowatt? Gears are indoubtably more effeceint. Greatest amount of fun per kilowatt? Personal preference. Greatest workout in a given amount of time? Fixed gear, hands down. At some point I saw

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-26 Thread Patrick Moore
Yes, generally speaking and taking everything into account; which is why only a few weirdos ride fixed. But it's also great fun in ways that freewheeling and multispeeding are not, so liking it is not *entirely* absurd. In certain respects of course it's *more efficient*, which is why speed

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-26 Thread Doug H.
Call me lazy but I enjoy coasting at times. Fixed is a no go for me. Fixed I think makes cycling less efficient. Am I wrong? Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-25 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Lyle, Wow. 48x18 is impressive for trail riding! I ride up in my either a 44x21 57” gear (Quickbeam) or 34x22 47” (Hunqabeam). Coming down, I’m in “high” gear generally, 71” 61” respectively), but on snowy trails or bikepacking I stay in low for the extra torque backpedaling. My bikepack gear

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-25 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Patrick and others - thanks for the very thorough answer to my question about pedal retention. I tend to ride with the middle of my foot on the pedal so no clips or straps have ever worked well for me... And I haven't missed them. I do like the heavily spiked VP platforms on all my bikes though.

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-25 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Riding without retention, but with spiked platform pedals sacrifices highspeed spinning and low speed climbing some, but if your focus is trails, the ease of on/off may well be worth it. On trails, this generally means only losing a small amount of steeper hill climbing. With abandon, Patrick

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-25 Thread Patrick Moore
48X18 is a good pavement ratio; mine are 70, 69, and 76 gi. For off pavement, I find low 60s best for a single gear for my terrain which involves sand and mostly rolling terrain (Rio Rancho) with only short steep sections. I'd rather walk more on hills than spin futilely on flats. If I were to

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-25 Thread Lyle Bogart
Kevin Mulcahy--yup, 48x18 seems a bit stout, but it's different on a fixie ;-) The same gear on a multispeed bike does seem harder. Maybe it's because the fixie is so much lighter and maybe it's because of the rotational inertia caused by the direct linkage of the drive train that seems to

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-24 Thread esoterica etc
+1 for flats with spikes, although I’d eventually like to try toe straps on some non-spiked pedals. Being able to pull up on the pedals while grinding up a steep incline would be helpful. Don’t think I’d want to go clipless though, because I really like riding in my trail runners, and they’re

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-24 Thread Kevin Mulcahy
What gearing combinations are other people using? 48/18 seems really high to me for road riding, so I can’t imagine riding trails with it. Heck, I’m in my 28/46 combo for just about every climb. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-24 Thread Lyle Bogart
I used to use spd pedals riding fixed but no longer do. Wide spikey pedals—race face “Chesters” or the very similar VP pedals. I run a 48x18 or 48x21 gear and, though I sometimes get to walk a steep section up, I always manage to keep my pedals while descending. On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 09:04

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-24 Thread Philip Williamson
I just use flat spiky pedals. I used to use eggbeaters and clips n straps. Whatever you’re comfortable with on your current bikes is probabaly best to start with when you go fixed. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-24 Thread hugh flynn
I've been riding fixed on trails since I discovered how awesome fixed is for ice/snow riding back in the 90s and thought, if I can do that, surely I can ride trails fixed! Granted, I just ride trails and not super technical stuff because I'm old and the super technical stuff makes my back hurt

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-23 Thread Philip Williamson
Single track A and single track B are more different from each other than single track A is from a paved trail. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-23 Thread Justin, Oakland
I preferred riding fixed without retention but with grippy shoes and platform pedals. Off road I’d double down on the lack of retention. I need to disengage from the pedal quickly if I’m going down and already have life lung damage to one ankle to show for it. Just my experience but clipless or

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-23 Thread Patrick Moore
I prefer retention, partly for safety, because your feet can get spinning pretty fast, and partly just because I like retention on all my pedals and find SPD-type clipless the easiest and most convenient. I've used clips and straps both with and without slotted cleats. Both work, but I found

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-23 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hey Tony, Is foot retention required to ride fixed gear? No. Benificial? Yes. With fixed gear you need a solid connection with the pedal so that as your feet spin faster in that precise circle that your legs don’t quite match naturally (but come close when running), your foot stays on the

[RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-22 Thread Ken Yokanovich
Sharp looking bike. On Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 10:40:26 AM UTC-6, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com wrote: > > Mark, yes, there's something especially delightful about riding fixed > off-road! I've a Rawland Drakkar prototype fixed cyclocross that has > carried me through Maine woods trails a

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-22 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Ok ok ok... I'm going to put a new chain (longer to account for the larger cog) on the ANT and give fixed a try next week. Patrick, it any other fixed riders - are toe clips or some other kind of foot-pedal retention device recommended/required? I noticed on your Hunqabeam Patrick that you

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-22 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
John, I must make a truth in advertizing oops: The first link is my Hunqabeam, not Quickbeam, so only the second link has the Steilacoom tires. Same conditions and trail though. My apologies. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-22 Thread JohnS
Steve, not sure just yet what kind of trail riding I'll be doing. DP, the Steilacoom reminds me of the tires on my '82 Stumpjumper when I bought it new. Looks like they work very well for you. Always enjoy your ride reports and pictures, especially the leaf with the frost on the edges. How

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-22 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Kevin, no need to imagine. Give it a go! Grin. You’ll be surprised at what is ridable, and of course the key to fixed is to ride till you can’t, walk till you can. Grin. “I REALLY love the extra challenges of rock gardens, obstacles, skinnies, etc. but fears of my own mortality keep me pretty

Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-22 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 11/22/18 12:34 PM, JohnS wrote: I've been thinking of giving my QB a break from fixed commuter duty and set it up for fixed trail riding. Any advice on tires? I recently switched fenders on the QB and was struck how great it looked without them. What to you is a "trail"?   Paved?

[RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-22 Thread JohnS
I've been thinking of giving my QB a break from fixed commuter duty and set it up for fixed trail riding. Any advice on tires? I recently switched fenders on the QB and was struck how great it looked without them. JohnS. On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 11:32:38 AM UTC-5, esoterica etc wrote:

[RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-22 Thread ascpgh
I can't imagine riding my local ROADS fixed: https://youtu.be/Cuwdmw-bDao ( Saturday's annual and thoroughly untherapeutic festival of masochism and broken crank arms; the Dirty Dozen which Ipointed out in another post. Yep I ride those streets, ways and paths up and down. With gears and

[RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding

2018-11-20 Thread Philip Williamson
Awesome. I used to Quickbeam fixed in the logging roads in the hills near my house when I lived in Oregon. It is pretty great. I agree that there's a fantastic connection to the trail, both uphill and down with a fixed gear. Not that I need a new bike... Hmm. Maybe the Quickbeam would like the