Re: [RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

I'm fascinated how the double crankset in Shimano's newish gravel group, GRX, is 48/31. I think they should have done 46/31, but still good. == On 3/20/20 8:58 PM, Nick Payne wrote: My gearing seems to have pretty much standardized around using 42/29 chainrings, mostly on 94BCD

[RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

Our Local bike shop recommended the"microSHIFT FD-R732-F Braze-on 3 x 10 speed Road Bike 52-39-30T Front Derailleur" on Ebay to shift wide range gearing on my new front crank from Rene Hearse on the Appaloosa. Thank goodness it worked. Glad to see this thread for other solutions as well.

[RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

My gearing seems to have pretty much standardized around using 42/29 chainrings, mostly on 94BCD cranks, but I also have a couple of pairs of Middleburn RS7 cranks using their Duo chainrings in the same sizes. For cassettes, I use 11-34 for bikes where I'm not carrying much of a load, and

[RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

Thanks for the responses. Great stuff. The triple with a guard on the big ring presents a conundrum for me. If I have a triple crankset, then it is probably most useful as a triple. Yet, I don't think I need a triple; a double can do the job, while simplifying. But I don't want a "crippled

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Thanks to recommendations on this list (and from looking at Analog's article ) I ended up with: 46/30 front rings on Velo Orange double crankset with Shimano RX100 derailleur 11-40t sunrace cassette

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Matt, since cassettes can be had quite inexpensively for the perfectly adequate ones, that buys a whole lotta cassettes compared to the cost of new crank. BB and rings. Otherwise, If your crank is 110/74 triple there's no one stopping you from just using different rings with it rather

[RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

We've run 46/20 with a 12-36 out back with fine success. Middleburn lets you run a 110 big ring, no middle ring and 58 bcd granny gear for said combo. Friction shifts fine with TA rings. The resulting gear range is super wide. 690% gear range. -James / Analog Cycles / Tanglefoot Cycles /

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Correction. That’s right Bill, 18t gap, not 22t gap. Thank you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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46/28 is a 18 tooth gap. Do you mean you are running 48/26 for a 22 tooth gap? BL in EC On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 4:32:57 PM UTC-7, scott minor wrote: > > I’ve been riding a 46/28 for about 5 years now and like it alot. Mind you > it’s on a Homer running 38mm tires, but a 22 tooth gap

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I’ve been riding a 46/28 for about 5 years now and like it alot. Mind you it’s on a Homer running 38mm tires, but a 22 tooth gap is not a problem at all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

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The best wide double for an Appaloosa is the Silver wide double. 38/24. Everything you need. Nothing you don’t. Nobody needs a 46t ring on an Appaloosa unless they insist on running a 14t smallest cog. If you run an 11-32 or an 11-34 or an 11-36, that 38/24 is perfecto. You can’t pedal at 40mph

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Pardon the post resurrection. I think Patrick's "avast, heretic!" comment alone, back on 3/6/10 justifies it :) I was thinking of this and Google brought me right back to the RBW group. For my new Appaloosa I'd like to go 2x over 3x because with 3x creates a situation where the middle ring

[RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

I was thinking about that same crankset. I'm seriously tempted. Since I have two sets of Ritchey/Sugino 94/58 arms my needs are not terribly urgent, but if I decide that a 29/46 or similar is my dream setup, I might get a little more anxious for a 172.5mm option. Velo Orange is VERY into wide

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 15:50 -0800, cyclotourist wrote: Wider Q's have been recommend to help me deal w/ IBT, but it's hard to bring myself to doing it after I've worked hard (and spent $$$) to get as narrow as possible!!! :-) Look how hard people have to work at it to get a repetitive stress

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We all need hobbies! On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 15:50 -0800, cyclotourist wrote: Wider Q's have been recommend to help me deal w/ IBT, but it's hard to bring myself to doing it after I've worked hard (and spent $$$) to get

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I believe the Davinci, a very nice triple, is listed at a modest 158 Q, and the design allows for a very short bb, which makes it easy to move between a dbl triple. BTW, they are made by White right here in the US, or at least in Ca. Not cheap, but less than TA. Michael On Mar 6, 4:33 pm,

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, they're pretty, too: http://www.davincitandems.com/images/crank4.jpg Thanks for that lead as I hadn't heard of them! On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:28 AM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I believe the Davinci, a very nice triple, is listed at a modest 158 Q, and the design allows for

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:28 AM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I believe the Davinci, a very nice triple, is listed at a modest 158 Q, and the design allows for a very short bb, which makes it easy to move between a dbl triple. BTW, they are made by White right here in the US, or at

[RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

So while it's mentioned that they are made by White Industries, why not the White Intustries VBC? Talk about a nice wide-range double, low Q-factor of 142. Has anyone tried one? Maybe not the most attractive crank, it is offered in a variety of different lengths and as a wide-ranged double.

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William, Go for it...there is one way to find out if it works well enough for you! I believe the biggest jump I have run between two chain rings was 20 teeth. It was on a half-step + granny set up on an All-Rounder. 20-40-44. The 20 40 shift required some care but otherwise wasn't a problem.

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I don't think the biggest issue is how it will shift. After all triple fronts are designed for a 22 tooth difference. Rather the shifting pattern gets very awkward when you go from 14 to 16. At 14 the next gear is typically two cogs away. At 16 your in no mans land, and at 18 and above the

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The ugly crossover is why I ditched the 50/34 on my commuter, and went back to a 46/36/24 triple. I have no use for the 24 on my flat commute, but the shifting pattern is nicer. When I bought a brand-new Campy group for my go-fast I went with 53/39 x 13-29 instead of 50/34 x 12-26 - similar

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

I'm really happy with my 50/34 X 12-30 set up. From memory, I think I use the top six gears with the big ring, and the bottom five with the small ring. Pretty minimal crossover with that set up. The low 34X30 takes me just about anywhere I need to go, but the 50X12 pretty much never gets used.

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

I used my wide range double as a single with a bailout; with 9 cogs for the 44, 9/10 of what I needed required only rear shifts. And, I set up the outer and the cogset for a pretty straight chainline in the cruising gears. With nine or 10 cogs in back, one ring is plenty for everything except

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

Yup, I pretty much ride mine as a 1x9 until the hills come. I'm running 44-30 and 12-27. I do spin out on bigger hills and occasionally wish for something a bit easier for extreme grades. Maybe I should give 44-28 a shot with one of SRAM's 11-28 cassettes. The other thing that makes this setup

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

Today I'm taking the Sam Hill to the LBS to have the Deore rear 8/9/10 sp freehub body exchanged for a (scavenged; thanks Ryan) 7 sp one. And, if I can find a way to do so, I'll toss the present 13 outer and have a 15-17-19-21-26-32 6 speed, with an extra spacer or two at the big end. For why?

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 07:49 -0800, Dustin Sharp wrote: Yup, I pretty much ride mine as a 1x9 until the hills come. I'm running 44-30 and 12-27. I do spin out on bigger hills and occasionally wish for something a bit easier for extreme grades. Maybe I should give 44-28 a shot with one of SRAM's

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

While it may sound crazy, I often find myself in the highest gear on most of my bikes. I'm not a racer, but I really do enjoy a lower cadence mash on the flats and downhills and the occasional low grade hill. I also like being able to overtake the SF fixie riders who pedal at insanely high

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Patrick: Is this the second or third week with the new bike? We all knew you wouldn't leave things alone! I agree the 11-32 8 speed is no good for touring. At least you decided to keep the triple! I'm not qualified to get into a theological discussion with you but I'd keep the 13. A bit of

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

Avast, heretic! This be week two (to be precise: this is the 8th day of receipt) and I've put 85 miles on it -- not a lot, but work has been busy. I hope to swap out the egregiously wide 160 mm Sugino for a more modestly endowed 150 or so (one hopes) Q'd 110 triple. As for the 13, I'd rather

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

Let us all know 'bout that triple if you find it. The only one I know that narrow (in 110bcd/square taper) is the late-great TA Zephyr. On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:28 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Avast, heretic! This be week two (to be precise: this is the 8th day of receipt) and

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And the Sugino built Ritcheys. A NOS just went for $200+ on Ebay a week ago or so. and I know they are a bit techo... but the RaceFace Turbines have a fairly narrow Q. I guess I'm a lucky one... the wider Q works better for me. Even though I can rider wider Q's... I'm a bit of a old small BCD

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

Wider Q's have been recommend to help me deal w/ IBT, but it's hard to bring myself to doing it after I've worked hard (and spent $$$) to get as narrow as possible!!! :-) Those Ritcheys are nice. $200 doesn't sound bad for NOS considering what's out there. I don't now what the RF Trubines look

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Did you ever see Dr Rich to be bike fit? The other thing to try is the Specialized bodyfit wedges for inside your shoe. They align the natural position of your knee with the flat pedal surface. and BTW... Co-Motion specs the Race Faces on all their tour/all rounder bikes. I've used them on my

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

With my 46-30 crank and 12-28 cassette, I can use all 8 cogs in the big ring and all but the 1213 in the small ring. Best gearing setup I've ever had! I can do even fairly hilly rides in the big ring and there's just enough overlap in the middle of the range that I don't shift the front

Re: [RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?

No, not yet. On my list of things to do. I did buy a roller though. Don't really know if it's doing any good yet. I've tried all the easy fixes recommended by my friends on the internet. Next up is a local massage therapist that is highly recommend. I'll probably due the fit in conjunction

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I have been running a 50/30 on the same crank arms on my Roadeo, phil 103 bb. I love it!! Only shifting onto the 30 for long or steep climbs. In the rear I have a 6 spd 13-28 freewheel and have not had to use the 30-28 yet, even on what I consider my Test hill that convinced me to put a tripple

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I've got a 24/42 on my utility bike. 7 speed 12-28 cassette. The front shift requires a bit of care but is not problematic. All the gear is standard issue late 80s MTB Deore stuff. Mid range bike, nothing exceptional. dougP On Mar 5, 7:06 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I ran a

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Excellent, so my 46/29 idea should be no problem at all. On Mar 5, 9:29 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: I've got a 24/42 on my utility bike.  7 speed 12-28 cassette.  The front shift requires a bit of care but is not problematic.  All the gear is standard issue late 80s MTB Deore