[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-19 Thread Earl Grey
Lovely. May I suggest a tweak? Shorten the kickstand (a simple hacksaw will do). But don't cut it too short. If you want to run wider tires at some point, leave it long enough so it will work with the widest tires that fit. Another way to shorten the kickstand for your medium tires if you don't

Re: [RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-19 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Hi! Yes, I've already chopped over 40mm off. It could probably stand to be another 10-15mm shorter. But I want to have some margin for uneven surfaces. I don't know; I'm going to be chopping the rear rack stays while I still have a friend's dremel-ish rotary tool (fun and scary to use).

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-18 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
All over but the shouting. Now the only things left to do are to cut the rear rack stays and to put on the reel lights. Oh, and mount a new rear brake. Then ...let the tweaking begin! http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/Samuel%20Hillborne%205?h=f99605 Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jul

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-11 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
First real ride of the build! iPhone (3G, unfortunately), so not particularly stunning. But they wouldn't be anyway, given that I'm handling the camera. http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/Samuel%20Hillborne%204%20-%20first%20ride?h=d9c074 Yours, Thoams Lynn Skean On Jul 4, 7:42 am,

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-05 Thread mr.trout
that frame is clean... on my taiwanese frame the ss cluster is definitely sloppy in comparison to yours. the paints a little sloppy too. i'm a little jealous, although that is a detail i doubt many would notice. i'm sure structurally it they are both equally sound. thanks for the pics, and watch

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-05 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
More pics (I'm calling it release candidate 1... guess what I do for a living?) are at: http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/Samuel%20Hillborne%203%20-%20RC1?h=f19e1c Still to go: way too much to enumerate, each smallish... all the basics are there. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jul 4, 7:43 

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-05 Thread EricP
Very nice bike. And very nice build. My LBS just got in a couple of Hillbornes, including a 60. That one is just a single. Lucky for me, would hate to be tempted to get rid of my 56 for a doubled 60. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jul 5, 7:17 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-05 Thread Johnny Alien
Wow! Those bars are up there! On Jul 5, 8:21 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Very nice bike.  And very nice build.  My LBS just got in a couple of Hillbornes, including a 60.  That one is just a single.  Lucky for me, would hate to be tempted to get rid of my 56 for a doubled 60. Eric

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-05 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Those bars have been lowered! Ya shudder seen 'em before! On Jul 5, 7:27 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Wow!  Those bars are up there! On Jul 5, 8:21 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Very nice bike.  And very nice build.  My LBS just got in a couple of Hillbornes,

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-03 Thread Way Rebb
See many non-parallel double top tubes Out In The World? snip I saw many weirdly shaped aluminum bikes but the few steel non- parallel bikes I saw were the rickshaw variety. I was interesting being countries where bicycle racks overflow with bicycles. All the bikes had a well used look,

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-02 Thread Way Rebb
It's the rear brake cable guide that will divide us! :) I saw quite a few double top tubes in Asia (Flying Pigeon, Raleigh), they don't see that unusual anymore. I bet you have a lot of fun with that one. Wonder how I can swing a new Hillborne? (but, but, but, it's over a year old...and the

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-02 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
linear pull, traditional canti, sidepull, centerpull; single-top, double-top; color(s); single-speed, multi-speed; freewheel, fixed gear; freewheel, cassette/freehub; internal gear, derailer; dérailleur, derailer So many ways to divide us. Cycling is indeed a big tent. Still haven't made up

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-01 Thread mr.trout
Could you snap a couple of shots of the seat stay cluster? I'm just a little curious to see the difference in brazing between mine and yours. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-01 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
On Jul 1, 2010, at 12:38 PM, mr.trout ianet...@yahoo.com wrote: Could you snap a couple of shots of the seat stay cluster? I'm just a little curious to see the difference in brazing between mine and yours. Thanks. Will do tonight! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-07-01 Thread Earl Grey
My Taiwan Sam has the brake bridge fender boss, and I do use it with my Berthoud/SKS fenders: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4424233671/in/photostream/ Thank you for pointing this out. Having the fender boss allows me not to envy you Waterford Sam owners. :) Gernot On Jul 1, 5:04 

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-06-30 Thread Johnny Alien
WOW! This thread title with not photos is just plain mean. On Jun 30, 1:26 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Actually, in the wilds of my garage. I think it's snoozing in there. I'll try to sneak up on it and get a few pictures over the next few days. I understand they

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-06-30 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
I stand chastised. I can only offer an apology and the explanation that I was tired (hey, it's after midnight!) and excited (hey, I got a Riv!). Quality... I don't have. Quantity I have. Pick out the best picture. Whatever one you think that is, that's the one my wife took. I took the others.

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-06-30 Thread jandrews_nyc
is that a 56 or 60? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-06-30 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
60 On Jun 30, 10:17 am, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: is that a 56 or 60? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group,

Re: [RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-06-30 Thread Bill Connell
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: I stand chastised. I can only offer an apology and the explanation that I was tired (hey, it's after midnight!) and excited (hey, I got a Riv!). Quality... I don't have. Quantity I have. Pick out the best

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-06-30 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Okay, it's a contest. There's no prize for being first, no shame in never finishing. A no drop contest, if you will. Does anyone notice what's missing from the frameset? (The missing thing would be probably be obvious if I were a better photographer and had produced fewer pictures to look

Re: [RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-06-30 Thread Jon Grant
) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild Okay, it's a contest. There's no prize for being first, no shame in never finishing. A no drop contest, if you will. Does anyone notice what's missing from the frameset? (The missing

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-06-30 Thread Ginz
...@comcast.net Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 08:28:03 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild Okay, it's a contest. There's no prize for being first, no shame in never

Re: [RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-06-30 Thread Bill Connell
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Okay, it's a contest. There's no prize for being first, no shame in never finishing. A no drop contest, if you will. Does anyone notice what's missing from the frameset? The 3rd top tube? looks complete to

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-06-30 Thread Ken Yokanovich
Looks like it is missing down tube shifter mounts. For me, it might be a big deal as I really like the simplicity of down tube shifters. I do run bar end shifters on my Atlantis, but both custom Rivendells are down tube shifters. On Jun 30, 10:28 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net

Re: [RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-06-30 Thread James Warren
Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild Looks like it is missing down tube shifter mounts. For me, it might be a big deal as I really like the simplicity of down tube shifters. I do run bar end shifters on my Atlantis, but both

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-06-30 Thread Way Rebb
I don't see anyhing missing that isn't on my SH. I do see a welded on rear cable guide in the back. That is something different. On Jun 30, 8:28 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: Okay, it's a contest. There's no prize for being first, no shame in never finishing. A no

[RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-06-30 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Well... I said missing because I've seen this thing on one other orange Hillborne in person and have seen evidence of it on orange Hillbornes in photos. So, please share an opinion on whether it is missing or merely absent. It's the brake bridge fender boss. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jun 30,

Re: [RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-06-30 Thread Rene Sterental
AFIK, none of the Waterford bikes come with a brake bridge fender boss (rear fender). I've seen this on Toyo Atlantises and Toyo Homers (haven't paid attention to Sams). I made a special request that one be included in my Atlantis (to replace my Bombadil) and Keven confirmed it would be a special

Re: [RBW] Re: double-top-tube hillborne sighted in wild

2010-06-30 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Mystery solved! Thanks, René! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jun 30, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: AFIK, none of the Waterford bikes come with a brake bridge fender boss (rear fender). I've seen this on Toyo Atlantises and Toyo Homers (haven't paid attention to