At 09:15 AM 5/3/2008, Karen Coyle wrote:
The question with series is whether it shouldn't be another resource,
linked to the bibliographic item being described. So then the series
statement would be replaced with a series link.
Actually, I think series would be BOTH. That is, the series
Kevin, this is a great observation and one that I would like us to
incorporate into our thinking about the RDA vocabularies. The
transcriptions from the piece are a certain kind of information that
must be retained. Those don't necessarily serve the link function,
however. This double duty of
At 10:52 AM 5/6/2008, Karen Coyle wrote:
Would it be possible to separate the descriptive transcription of fields
from the linking and relationships between resources (considering a
book a resource AND the series itself as a resource). In the talk I did
at Code4Lib I used the publisher name as
This is an artifact of the card catalog, where such double-duty elements
made perfect sense. The elements involved are typically the title of
the resource being described and/or the title of the resource of which
it forms a component part (series, multivolume monograph, etc.). Having
said that,
If RDA instructs the cataloger to create only one data element to serve
two purposes, then it's an RDA problem. If RDA instructs the cataloger
to create two data elements (or gives an option of two, with a legacy
option of one for legacy data), but MARC doesn't allow separate data
fields for
Kevin said:
WorldCat Local shows how horrible it is to confuse the different
properties and functions by getting rid of the statement of responsibility
and then trying to replace it with a made up statement taking some of the
data appearing in 1XX/7XX fields.)
*Very* true. Subfield coding given
True: I had forgotten RDA 1.8.
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At 02:24 PM 5/6/2008, J. McRee Elrod wrote:
To make statements of responsibility
optional is one of the very worst features of RDA.
And so it was very encouraging to see that it's now a core element, per
their recent meeting. (Well, at least the first statement of responsiblity
is.)
Kevin M.
Of course, RDA 1.8 doesn't _require_ an element to do double duty as
both transcription and access point, it merely permits it. There is
nothing to prevent a given implementation community from not applying
1.8 and creating separate elements in all cases.
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there's nothing to prevent a given implementation community from ignoring RDA
entirely and doing whatever they want. But that sort of defeats the purpose of
RDA if we're _counting_ on that, no?
I thought one of the premises of RDA was that it would be a framework under
RDA is meant to appeal to a variety of user communities, and some of
them may opt not to apply some of its provisions. RDA 1.8 is one such
provision: it states that certain elements may be used for both
purposes; to me, this means that they also may not. It moves the
decision to the level of the
Let's try that again in something approaching English:
I thought one of the premises of RDA was that it would be a framework under
which the various metadata communities would create rules to ply their trade.
If that is correct, then one or more groups ignoring it entirely is a very real
Aha, this makes more sense, thanks for explaining. Still not sure what
I think, but it makes more sense than what I originally mis-understood.
Jonathan
Ed Jones wrote:
RDA is meant to appeal to a variety of user communities, and some of
them may opt not to apply some of its provisions. RDA
At 04:22 PM 5/6/2008, Ed Jones wrote:
I would be more worried if RDA talked about generating description from
access points--Kevin's example from WorldCat Local--but RDA 1.8 is a
one-way system: only generating access points from description
(specifically titles, which are fairly
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Many thanks
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