Re: [RDA-L] Abbrevitions in RDA records

-Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 5:22 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Abbrevitions in RDA records Quoting

Re: [RDA-L] Abbrevitions in RDA records

Sorry about the previous message. I pushed the wrong button! Karen Coyle wrote: snip I don't think we can completely resolve the abbreviation issue in the transcribed parts of our records, and I'm not convinced that is a reasonable goal. It does make sense to me to continue to control the

Re: [RDA-L] Straight jacket?

I think RDA actually IS a useful first step. In our current environment, we (at least in the US) pretty much catalog FOR MARC. MARC serves as our 'data vocabulary', and even our rules for entry in many cases come either from MARC itself, or are formulated in terms of marc fields. This

Re: [RDA-L] Straight jacket?

Guys, I'm sorry, I can't hold back any more. I can't find any dictionary that uses the spelling straight jacket for what should be strait jacket. A straight jacket is presumably a jacket that is, in some way, straight. A strait jacket is a restrictive garment often used for medical purposes. I

Re: [RDA-L] Straight jacket?

Thanks for setting everyone strait John! ;-) ^^ Adam L. Schiff Principal Cataloger University of Washington Libraries Box 352900 Seattle, WA 98195-2900 (206) 543-8409 (206) 685-8782 fax asch...@u.washington.edu http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff

Re: [RDA-L] Strait jacket -- example of large print'

-Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rochkind Sent: December 10, 2010 11:42 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Straight jacket? I think RDA

Re: [RDA-L] Strait jacket -- example of large print'

The 'large print' example is an excellent for pointing out problems with MARC and problems with what can happen if you start mixing format information with other kinds of fields (650s, location etc.). It gets very very messy and RDA IS trying to sort this out. But I don't think that the problem

Re: [RDA-L] Strait jacket -- example of large print'

Brenndorfer, Thomas tbrenndor...@library.guelph.on.ca wrote: And then there's 650 $a Large type books, which seems wrong on so many levels. It's often replaced by the more apt form/genre heading 655 $a Large type books. But the problem is that form and genre are work attributes, not

Re: [RDA-L] Strait jacket -- example of large print'

-Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Lisa Hatt Sent: December 10, 2010 4:12 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Strait jacket -- example of large print'

Re: [RDA-L] Strai/gh/t jacket?

Quoting Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu: The challenges here are again the mismatch between MARC and RDA -- not only the loss of 'granularity' when putting RDA in MARC as above, but possibly some crucial data elements that are in MARC but aren't yet actually included in the RDA data

Re: [RDA-L] Strait jacket -- example of large print'

Lisa Hatt wrote: Brenndorfer, Thomas tbrenndor...@library.guelph.on.ca wrote: And then there's 650 $a Large type books, which seems wrong on so many levels. It's often replaced by the more apt form/genre heading 655 $a Large type books. But the problem is that form and genre are work

Re: [RDA-L] Form

Perhaps the most straightforward way to rephrase what Thomas Brenndorfer said is that Form of work is a work attribute. You could have form of expression, form of manifestation, and form of item attributes as well. Adam ^^ Adam L. Schiff Principal

Re: [RDA-L] Strait jacket -- example of large print'

-Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Kevin M. Randall Sent: December 10, 2010 5:22 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Strait jacket -- example of large

Re: [RDA-L] Strait jacket?

Karen Coyle said: I would also like to use it to begin an analysis of where we have duplication between data and text fields in MARC ... A worthy goal. Much of the fixed/variable field duplication in MARC dates from when accessing variable field information was more difficult than now. But

Re: [RDA-L] Expanded GMDs

This is the expanded list of GMDs now used by SLC. Whether clients will accept {338 : 336] substituted is an open question. Some terms will have to be added, e.g., equipment, large print. GMDs used by SLC [activity card] [art original] [art reproduction] [braille] cartographic ... see

Re: [RDA-L] Strai/gh/t jacket?

-Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:rd...@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Karen Coyle Sent: December 10, 2010 5:10 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Strai/gh/t jacket? Quoting Jonathan