Re: [RDA-L] Recording series numbering in RDA

2011-03-09 Thread Kevin M. Randall
Jonathan Rochkind said: I'm not sure what the way to surmount this challenge is, but catalogers and library metadata engineers clearly do need better tools than they are getting. I absolutely agree. But at this point in time, after the ridiculous passage of decades waiting for it, the only

Re: [RDA-L] Recording series numbering in RDA

2011-03-09 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
That would be a good solution. That, I think, is incompatible with MARC, even MARCXML, yeah? On 3/9/2011 2:50 AM, Bernhard Eversberg wrote: On 08.03.2011 20:04, Mark Ehlert: Jonathan Rochkindrochk...@jhu.edu wrote: As an aside, is there any way to indicate in the Marc that a particular 490

Re: [RDA-L] Recording series numbering in RDA

2011-03-09 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
They didn't care about better discovery layers either, until situations changed to make them care -- in part because of libraries creating their own open source solutions to challenge the proprietary vendor software. I think it's probably much harder to do this with cataloging/metadata entry

Re: [RDA-L] Recording series numbering in RDA

2011-03-09 Thread Myers, John F.
Jonathan Rochkind wrote: That would be a good solution. That, I think, is incompatible with MARC, even MARCXML, yeah? Quoting Mark Ehlert (I think): A better solution might be a 3-level field structure that would contain two or more complete data fields with all the necessary subfields.

Re: [RDA-L] Recording series numbering in RDA

2011-03-09 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Myers, John F. mye...@union.edu wrote: Jonathan Rochkind wrote: That would be a good solution. That, I think, is incompatible with MARC, even MARCXML, yeah? Quoting Mark Ehlert (I think): A better solution might be a 3-level field structure that would

[RDA-L] RDA and music

2011-03-09 Thread Gene Fieg
I am not a music cataloger; I do it when it comes across my desk, but I don't work primarily in musical materials. That said, I was wondering what music catalogers think of RDA and the myriad (to me, anyway) and repetitive instructions in chapter 6. While I was reading the final product, I saw

Re: [RDA-L] RDA and music

2011-03-09 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 3/9/2011 2:50 PM, Gene Fieg wrote: RDA takes the parts of description and in this case the construction of uniform titles and separates them out as though they were of equal value, but the the work is not identified by a preferred access point until /all/ the elements are in one string. I

Re: [RDA-L] RDA and music

2011-03-09 Thread hecain
Quoting Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu: On 3/9/2011 2:50 PM, Gene Fieg wrote: RDA takes the parts of description and in this case the construction of uniform titles and separates them out as though they were of equal value, but the the work is not identified by a preferred access

Re: [RDA-L] RDA and music

2011-03-09 Thread Kathy Glennan
I *am* a music cataloger and will try to do my best to answer questions in this thread. My first question -- what is the final product referred to below? I just did a phrase search of the RDA Toolkit, and the term preferred access point does not appear. This terminology was used in earlier

Re: [RDA-L] RDA and music

2011-03-09 Thread Adam L. Schiff
While I was reading the final product, I saw preferred access point just below a paragraph that mentioned an authorized access point.  (What??) I just searched the text of RDA and there are no occurrences of the phrase preferred access point.   Also in those instructions on music, someone