Re: [RDA-L] [ ] in title

2011-04-18 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
16.04.2011 21:01, Mark Ehlert: The question then becomes whether there is a need to differentiate between brackets used with cataloger interpolations versus those transcribed from the source. In MARC--short of developing a MARC-specific code or punctuated phrase of some kind, e.g.,[...] or

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

2011-04-18 Thread Adam L. Schiff
Mary Charles, Since no one yet has tried to give an explanation, and without searching through all of the JSC minutes, where it can probably be found, I think the short answer is that they wanted just one rule to cover both conferences, congresses, meetings, etc. and exhibitions, festivals,

[RDA-L] Ég verð fjarverandi til 28. apríl

2011-04-18 Thread Þóra Sigurbjörnsdóttir
I am out of the office from Mon 04/18/2011 until Thu 04/28/2011. Ég verð fjarverandi til 28. apríl, hef samband þegar ég kem til baka

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

2011-04-18 Thread Lasater, Mary Charles
Adam, Thanks. Do you think that decision could be reconsidered, given the implications for 'access' and RDA maintenance/fallout? It seems the 'bulk' of the current authority records/headings are for conference names. I've created a few of the others, but rarely. The less problematic change

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

2011-04-18 Thread Danskin, Alan
Dear Mary Charles. I can confirm Adam's response. RDA merged separate AACR2 instructions relating to conferences, congresses, meetings, exhibitions and fairs into a single instruction: 11.2.2.11. As a consequence of this change, frequency is retained in the name of a conference (AACR2

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

2011-04-18 Thread Weinheimer Jim
Danskin, Alan wrote: snip Treating events consistently is a simplification of the instructions. The decision to include frequency in the name of the event is justified by the principle of representation if the event represents itself as an Annual Conference or the Biennial Festival. /snip I

Re: [RDA-L] [ ] in title

2011-04-18 Thread Kevin M. Randall
Bernhard Eversberg wrote: 16.04.2011 21:01, Mark Ehlert: The question then becomes whether there is a need to differentiate between brackets used with cataloger interpolations versus those transcribed from the source. In MARC--short of developing a MARC-specific code or punctuated

Re: [RDA-L] [ ] in title

2011-04-18 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Kevin Randall asked: question is about how to distinguish one use of a character (identifying data supplied by the cataloger) from another use of a character (transcription of what is on the resource). That was the question I asked. It seemed to me that in 245$a (and 490?) the distinction is

Re: [RDA-L] [ ] in title

2011-04-18 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Kevin M. Randall k...@northwestern.edu wrote: I think the nonsorting control character is an entirely separate issue. Then what would be your suggestion? For ages, we have used the non-sort control characters in addition to square brackets to indicate parts of

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

2011-04-18 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Only catalogers? The ISSN authority considers them to be different too, changing the title like that gets you a new ISSN. Note the different ISSNs at each point monthly and/or the was added/removed. The Atlantic 1072-7825 Former titles (until 1993): Atlantic (United States) (0276-9077) (until

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

2011-04-18 Thread John Hostage
For more than a decade, the JSC, the ISSN Network, and IFLA's ISBD Review Group have tried to harmonize their rules for what constitutes a major change in a serial title. If you make a proposal for latest entry cataloging to one of the groups, they will say it can't be done because you need

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

2011-04-18 Thread Peter Schouten
A change in the first few words of the title of a serial has always been, and under RDA still is, a reason for a new bibliographic record. We have seen the problems arising from collating all titles under their current ISSN, when online archives displayed the current title on an historical

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

2011-04-18 Thread Adam L. Schiff
Mary Charles, I think what will happen in RDA is that we will create authority records for each conference, rather than one record to represent the continuing conference. Adam ^^ Adam L. Schiff Principal Cataloger University of Washington Libraries Box

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

2011-04-18 Thread Mark Ehlert
Adam L. Schiff asch...@u.washington.edu wrote: I think what will happen in RDA is that we will create authority records for each conference, rather than one record to represent the continuing conference. Though there are scattered references to series of conferences, etc. in RDA, e.g.,

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

2011-04-18 Thread Adam L. Schiff
Applying conference rules to festivals, fairs, exhibitions, etc. simply will not work, because many of them have names such as: Artists Biennial Biennale di Venezia Bienal Internacional de Arte Asia Triennial Manchester Chapungu Annual Cape Town Triennial Prague Quadrennial

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

2011-04-18 Thread Weinheimer Jim
On 18/04/2011 19:34, Adam L. Schiff wrote: snip I think you are right, but then our patrons will demand that somehow, these separate conferences all come together. People have plenty of problems already with conferences--one of the worst is the idea that it is a conference *name* and not a

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

2011-04-18 Thread John Hostage
Of course, in all those examples the frequency word is used as a noun and not an adjective, so it couldn't be omitted. The rule could have been revised to omit adjectival frequency words. -- John Hostage Authorities and Database Integrity Librarian

[RDA-L] Conference names

2011-04-18 Thread Adam L. Schiff
The agenda for the BIBCO and CONSER Operations Committees meeting in May is now posted at http://www.loc.gov/catdir/pcc/bibco/BIBCOOpCo2011Agenda.html Document 1 under the agenda item Overview of RDA PCC Policy and Practice Decisions for PCC includes several discussion items related to

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

2011-04-18 Thread hecain
Quoting Mark Ehlert ehler...@umn.edu: Adam L. Schiff asch...@u.washington.edu wrote: I think what will happen in RDA is that we will create authority records for each conference, rather than one record to represent the continuing conference. Though there are scattered references to series of

Re: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

2011-04-18 Thread Amanda Xu
As far as I am concerned, re-catalog conference proceedings from monograph to serials is a good judgment call if you consider the following scenarios: 1. how proceedings are being processed, published, linked, etc. at individual conference event level by publishers and learned societies

Re: [RDA-L] FW: [RDA-L] Conference names : use of annual, etc.

2011-04-18 Thread Amanda Xu
Dear Sara: Thank you so much for the correction. It is actually about re-cataloging from **serial** to **monograph*.* Amanda Amanda Xu Collection Management Librarian for Information Technology James E. Walker Library Middle Tennessee