[RDA-L] content type: three-dimensional form vs. tactile three-dimensional form

2012-10-15 Thread Julie Moore
Did we ever figure out the difference of when we use three-dimensional form vs. tactile three-dimensional form? I would say that most three-dimensional forms can be touched, so there is a tactile component to them, as three-dimensional forms. Of course, for some things, it is clearly not the

Re: [RDA-L] 370 Russia, Federation ?

2012-10-15 Thread Moore, Richard
John I was just reading up this thread and waiting for someone to point that out. Russia (Federation) and Russia, Federation are both wrong, in authority 370 in LC/NAF. This follows the LCPS for 11.3.1 (Do not include the type of jurisdiction), which can also be applied to 9.8.1.3, 9.9.1.3 and

Re: [RDA-L] content type: three-dimensional form vs. tactile three-dimensional form

2012-10-15 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
I think the clearest definition for when tactile is used is found in the note in the RDA-ONIX Framework document for sensory modes (which include touch as one of the means by which the content of a resources is intended to be perceived). http://www.loc.gov/marc/marbi/2007/5chair10.pdf

Re: [RDA-L] 370 Russia, Federation ?

2012-10-15 Thread Moore, Richard
John I was just reading up this thread and waiting for someone to point that out. Russia (Federation) and Russia, Federation are both wrong, in authority 370 in LC/NAF. This follows the LCPS for 11.3.1 (Do not include the type of jurisdiction), which can also be applied to 9.8.1.3, 9.9.1.3 and

[RDA-L] web interface for this list, archive and subscription options

2012-10-15 Thread Leonard, William
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Re: [RDA-L] content type: three-dimensional form vs. tactile three-dimensional form

2012-10-15 Thread Paige G Andrew
I agree with Thomas' assessment here. And to provide another example, while globes are all three-dimensional and tactile in the sense that one can or may touch them, there are globes out there that are designed to be tactile in nature in that, e.g., the continents are raised in such a way that

Re: [RDA-L] content type: three-dimensional form vs. tactile three-dimensional form

2012-10-15 Thread Julie Moore
Thomas, So you would not consider either brain to be tactile, because the main intention is for it to be seen? 336 three-dimensional form ǂ2 rdacontent Best wishes, Julie Moore On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Brenndorfer, Thomas tbrenndor...@library.guelph.on.ca wrote: I think the

Re: [RDA-L] content type: three-dimensional form vs. tactile three-dimensional form

2012-10-15 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
I think in your wording the main intention for the plastic brain model is for people to “see” how the pieces fit together. And seeing in three-dimensions at that, which suggests some movement or action on the part of the observer to see all sides of the object—all of these other actions, such

Re: [RDA-L] coloured illustrations

2012-10-15 Thread Matthew Wise
Hi, again, Bob. So then, is it also $b some color illustrations or $b illustrations (some color) and $b chiefly color illustrations or $b illustrations (chiefly color) ... ? In the first example, the statement on the left, as a user, I would read this grammatically

Re: [RDA-L] content type: three-dimensional form vs. tactile three-dimensional form

2012-10-15 Thread Amanda Xu
As far as I am concerned, tactile is only one type of the Sensory Mode (a.k.a. touch). The scope of human sensory mode defined in RDA-ONIX Framework needs to be updated to include signal or stimulus that causes the change of the intellectual content because of human motion and gesture. An

Re: [RDA-L] content type: three-dimensional form vs. tactile three-dimensional form

2012-10-15 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Julie Moore asked: Did we ever figure out the difference of when we use three-dimensional form vs. tactile three-dimensional form? Aren't all forms both three dimensional and tactile? Whose phrases are too long for convenient display. The MRIs suggest just using form. If using the long

Re: [RDA-L] content type: three-dimensional form vs. tactile three-dimensional form

2012-10-15 Thread Joan Wang
The definition for *tactile three dimensional form* is *Content expressed through a form or forms intended to be perceived through touch as a three-dimensional form or forms*. My understanding is that the definition covers at least the core content instead of a part of content. If a part of

[RDA-L] accompanying material

2012-10-15 Thread Julie Moore
For many of the special formats materials that I catalog, there is often accompanying material -- a CD-ROM, a DVD, a guide, a cassette, etc. The last I looked, there was no new way of dealing with accompanying material, and RDA had not spoken to it. So are we supposed to just keep adding these

Re: [RDA-L] accompanying material

2012-10-15 Thread Wesson, Jinny
Please could someone let us know what we are supposed to do with the accompanying material? I am glad I am not the only one with this problem. Jinny Wesson Library Resource Center Library Coordinator Technical Services/Cataloging 3000 NE 4th St. Renton, WA 98056 (425) 235-2331

Re: [RDA-L] accompanying material

2012-10-15 Thread Mike Tribby
The last I looked, there was no new way of dealing with accompanying material, and RDA had not spoken to it. So are we supposed to just keep adding these accompanying materials pieces as a 300 $e? And dare we use that mysterious and confounding +? I'm asssuming that when the accompanying

Re: [RDA-L] accompanying material

2012-10-15 Thread Arakawa, Steven
Refer to LC/PCC PS 3.1.4 Lots of examples given. 336, 337,338 can be repeated. See MARC 21 for Bibliographic Records for examples. If the accompanying material differs, use separate 33x's where applicable. See also the LC Training Materials, Module 1.

[RDA-L] ALCTS-Call for Proposal for ALCTS CCC CNIG

2012-10-15 Thread Sigler, Karen B
Please excuse cross-postings. ALCTS- CaMMS Cataloging Norms Interest Group invites speakers to participate at the ALCTS- CaMMS CNIG session, ALA Midwinter Meeting in Seattle on Saturday, Jan. 26, 2013 at 10:30-11:30 AM. The mission of the CaMMS Cataloging Norms Interest Group is to offer a

Re: [RDA-L] coloured illustrations

2012-10-15 Thread Robert Maxwell
Matthew, You are correct that some color illustrations and illustrations (some color) mean different things, as do chiefly color illustrations and illustrations (chiefly color). In RDA some color is a separate element from illustrations so if we were just recording elements in a cataging form

Re: [RDA-L] accompanying material

2012-10-15 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
The main source for instructions about accompanying material in RDA is at RDA 3.1.4 (Resources Consisting of More than One Carrier Type). The scope of this section, RDA 3.1.4, is for resources that consist of more than one Carrier Type. A collection of objects (object being the sole Carrier

Re: [RDA-L] accompanying material

2012-10-15 Thread Julie Moore
Do you recommend recording the 336, 337, and 338 of the accompanying material as well as those fields for the main work? Julie On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Julie Moore julie.renee.mo...@gmail.comwrote: For many of the special formats materials that I catalog, there is often accompanying

Re: [RDA-L] accompanying material

2012-10-15 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
There is an alternative instruction for Carrier Type (RDA 3.3) where only the carrier type for the predominant part or most substantial parts of the resource need be recorded. But the main instruction is to record as many terms as are applicable to the resource being described. If a different

Re: [RDA-L] content type: three-dimensional form vs. tactile three-dimensional form

2012-10-15 Thread J. McRee Elrod
The definition for *tactile three dimensional form* is *Content expressed through a form or forms intended to be perceived through touch as a three-dimensional form or forms*. U was taught that definitions should not contain the word(s) being defined. I hope definitions will be among the

Re: [RDA-L] accompanying material

2012-10-15 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Julie Moore asked: The last I looked, there was no new way of dealing with accompanying material, and RDA had not spoken to it. So are we supposed to just keep adding these accompanying materials pieces as a 300 $e? We would add an 007, and additional 336, 337, and 338 as required, with $3 for