[RDA-L] Typo in the Toolkit

2012-12-21 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
Does anyone know who to contact about a typo in the RDA Toolkit? The following example under 6.2.3.5: ةليلو ةليل فل أ ةليلو ةليل فلأ بات English language form recorded as preferred title: Arabian nights The Arabic is backwards; it should be: اللف ليلة ولىلة etc. Benjamin Abrahamse Cataloging

Re: [RDA-L] Sources of information for other title information

2012-12-21 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Here's a postscript to the discussion (for those of you who still care): I just checked the definition of other title information in the ISBD consolidated and found that it is similar, but not identical to the one given in RDA. ISBD consolidated (2011), chapter 1.3: Other title information

[RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

2012-12-21 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
RDA geniuses: I know that under RDA we no longer use brackets to indicate a range of unnumbered pages or leaves in the physical description. What about in notes? RDA 1.10.4 says, Refer to passages in the resource, or in other sources, if these either support assertions made in the description

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

2012-12-21 Thread Robert Maxwell
RDA does not address this, but there is an LC-PCC Policy statement that catalogers may follow if they like and should if they're creating PCC records: LC-PCC PS for 1.7.1[http://access.rdatoolkit.org/images/rdalink.png]http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp1target=rda1-787#rda1-787

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

2012-12-21 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
You were following my mistake, which I don't (or at least I hope I don't) normally make in catalog records. Benjamin Abrahamse Cataloging Coordinator Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems MIT Libraries 617-253-7137 From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access

Re: [RDA-L] Sources of information for other title information

2012-12-21 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Heidrun said: So, according to ISBD there is no problem with other title information which is not found on the t.p. - it is still recorded as other title information. This is another point (albeit a small one) where RDA digresses from ISBD. Where authorities differ, e.g., AACR2 vs. LCRI

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

2012-12-21 Thread Deborah Fritz
At the risk of sounding even more obsessive-compulsive than Bob, I offer you this. Not everything that we thought of as 'Notes' under AACR, is a 'Note' in RDA. The example you show, comes under the category of 'Content'. Content can either be at the Work level-applying to *every*

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

2012-12-21 Thread Gene Fieg
The English language is really going down hill when record and transcribe can mean different things (to us as catalogers and code writers) and general populace whom we want to use our library do not go around making these *very fine *distinctions. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Deborah Fritz

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

2012-12-21 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
Thank you Deborah for the extended explanation, particularly regarding the distinction between record and transcribe. I'm still finding it a challenge to find what I'm looking for in the Toolkit. Gene, I kind of agree with what you're saying, but I guess I'd just point out that library users

Re: [RDA-L] Contents Notes [was Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?]

2012-12-21 Thread Deborah Fritz
Agreed, Bob, on nearly all accounts. I would definitely like to see the ‘plot summary’ at the Work level, rather than being repeated over and over for each expression, but we’ll just have to wait and see whether that is eventually allowed under the model. As for the Contents Note, although

Re: [RDA-L] Brackets for unnumbered pages in notes?

2012-12-21 Thread Gene Fieg
For a research library the pagination of the bibliography can be very important, as the the graduate student creates a bibliography for his/her thesis. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Robert Maxwell robert_maxw...@byu.eduwrote: You’re right, Deborah, RDA considers this is an attribute of

Re: [RDA-L] Typo in the Toolkit

2012-12-21 Thread Adam L. Schiff
You use the feedback mechanism in Toolkit to report these. ^^ Adam L. Schiff Principal Cataloger University of Washington Libraries Box 352900 Seattle, WA 98195-2900 (206) 543-8409 (206) 685-8782 fax asch...@u.washington.edu