[RDA-L] Save the date! NOTSL Spring Meeting April 5, 2013

2013-02-06 Thread Kathleen Lamantia
April 5th is just days after Day 1 for RDA. It's time to get practical with the RDA authorities! Come join NOTSL's program for managing your transition. Paul Frank from the Library of Congress will talk about name authority records in RDA, the current state of NACO training, major differences

[RDA-L] Statement of responsibility naming more than three persons etc.

2013-02-06 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
After all this talk about German cataloging, I suppose it's time to get back to RDA ;-) The other day we discussed the optional omission for statements of responsibility naming more than three persons, etc. (RDA 2.4.1.5). The general feeling was that although everybody ought to try and follow

[RDA-L] [Pollupostage\SPAM] Re: [RDA-L] Extent terms (was Carrier type Flipchart)

2013-02-06 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Greta, Thanks for the explanation. I understand the problem much better now. By the way, as you've mentioned atlases: Here's another interesting difference between Anglo-American and German cataloging. When cataloging an atlas, we only give the number of pages and indicate that there are

Re: [RDA-L] Statement of responsibility naming more than three persons etc.

2013-02-06 Thread JSC Chair
You can do exactly what you suggested with RDA. - Barbara Tillett On Wednesday, February 6, 2013, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote: After all this talk about German cataloging, I suppose it's time to get back to RDA ;-) The other day we discussed the optional omission for statements of

Re: [RDA-L] Statement of responsibility naming more than three persons etc.

2013-02-06 Thread Joseph, Angelina
I feel the same. We get a lot of National Business Institute titles, where there will be numerous authors most of the time. The names are listed in alphabetical order and the person who worked the most on that book might be last in the list of authors because of the alphabetization. If we use

Re: [RDA-L] Statement of responsibility naming more than three persons etc.

2013-02-06 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Barbara, I can??? Now this is a pleasant surprise. Only I'm not sure where it says so in the rules. The optional omission in 2.4.1.5 explicitly states omit all but the first of each group. I've noted that the optional omission in 2.4.1.4 says Always record the first name appearing in a

Re: [RDA-L] Statement of responsibility naming more than three persons etc.

2013-02-06 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
I'm relieved to hear Dr Tillett say that this is allowed under RDA. Sometime you run across some truly gargantuan s-o-r's and sadly need to pick and choose whom to record. That said, I agree with Heidrun that neither the rules, as they currently exist in the Toolkit, nor the LC/PCC CPS,

Re: [RDA-L] Statement of responsibility naming more than three persons etc.

2013-02-06 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Heidrun said: But I'm not happy that the only alternatives are either all names (standard rule) or only the first name (option). Why shouldn't it be equally possible to transcribe, say, the first three, five or ten names and then put [and x others]? This might be a more satisfactory way of

Re: [RDA-L] Statement of responsibility naming more than three persons etc.

2013-02-06 Thread Barbara Tillett
You are right the rules do not specifically say you can do it, but it is definitely in the spirit of RDA and perhaps you'd like to work with Christine Frodl to propose an adjustment to the way RDA states this? - Barbara Barbara B. Tillett On Feb 6, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller

Re: [RDA-L] Statement of responsibility naming more than three persons etc.

2013-02-06 Thread JSC Secretary
Dear RDA-L people, After an email conversation with Barbara, I'm writing with some additional information, making the distinction between transcribing information in a statement of responsibility and giving authorized access points for responsible entities. [Barbara is traveling and typing long

Re: [RDA-L] Statement of responsibility naming more than three persons etc.

2013-02-06 Thread J. McRee Elrod
However, you can choose which entities to include in 7XX authorized access points in a MARC bibliographic record; those access points do not need to be justified in a transcribed element or by a note. This is my major argument with RDA. If revising, please consider restoring correlation between