Re: [RDA-L] Dust jacket as a Source of Information

2013-04-09 Thread Joan Wang
The following paragraph may need a revision resulted from the change on a jacket as a part of the resource itself. I do not see it in the document. I do not know whom I should report it to. So I post the information here. *2.3.6.1 Variant titles include the following:* * * *a) those that appear

[RDA-L] Title main entry

2013-04-09 Thread Saunders, Mary
I work quite a bit with corporate publications. Under AACR2, there are rules about when a corporate publication is to be entered under the corporate body, and when it is to be entered under title with the corporate body as a 710. Is this still the same in RDA? Or are all corporate

Re: [RDA-L] Title main entry

2013-04-09 Thread Joan Wang
Look at 19.2.1.1.1 Corporate Bodies Considered to Be Creators. My feeling is that the rule is quite same as AACR2. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Saunders, Mary mary.saund...@maine.govwrote: I work quite a bit with corporate publications.

Re: [RDA-L] Title main entry

2013-04-09 Thread Stephen Early
If you're using (and learning, as I am) the RDAToolkit, click on the Resources tab, then click the plus sign by AACR2. Then keep working your way through the contents until you get to AACR2 21.1B2. When the rule comes up, look for the blue highlighted RDA tab next to 21.1B2 General Rule. Click

Re: [RDA-L] Title main entry

2013-04-09 Thread JOHN C ATTIG
RDA 19.2.1.1.1, Corporate bodies considered to be creators John Attig Authority Control Librarian Penn State University jx...@psu.edu - Original Message - | From: Mary Saunders mary.saund...@maine.gov | To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA | Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:02:45 AM |

[RDA-L] Place names in 370

2013-04-09 Thread John Hostage
We came across another issue with putting place names in the 370 in the form used in a qualifier. There is a place established as: Linyi (Shandong Sheng, China : South) How does that get entered in 370 $e? Linyi, Shandong Sheng, China ? What happens with the South part? (There is another Linyi

Re: [RDA-L] Place names in 370

2013-04-09 Thread Hideyuki Morimoto
At a NACO workshop on RDA authority records held last month, a trainer from COIN reiterated the provision at DCM, Z1, 370, General, para. 1, a). Then, a reminder was added that, for placement under authority field 370s, it should be Korea and *not* Korea (South) [or *not* Korea (North) for

Re: [RDA-L] Place names in 370

2013-04-09 Thread Adam L. Schiff
The DCM Z1 says to remove terms for jurisdiction or other distinguishing terms. So: Korea not Korea (South) Russia not Russia (Federation) and Linyi, Shandong Sheng, China without the qualifier South ^^ Adam L. Schiff Principal Cataloger University of

Re: [RDA-L] Place names in 370

2013-04-09 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
This strikes me as similar to the old NACO rule of thumb, Don't add cross-reference for a variant of a variant. I.e.: Don't add a qualifier to a qualifier. It makes sense for a heading. Though I admit I'm still puzzled why we are doing this, and other changes, for the 370 (other than,

Re: [RDA-L] Title main entry

2013-04-09 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Tue, Apr 9 Saunders, Mary mary.saund...@maine.govwrote: I work quite a bit with corporate publications. Under AACR2, there are rules about when a corporate publication is to be entered under the corporate body, and when it is to be entered under title with the corporate body as a 710.

Re: [RDA-L] Linyi Shandong was Place names in 370

2013-04-09 Thread Wayne Richter
John Hostage wrote We came across another issue with putting place names in the 370 in the form used in a qualifier. There is a place established as: Linyi (Shandong Sheng, China : South) ... Is the place established correctly according to RDA? It's complicated by the fact that the authority

Re: [RDA-L] Place names in 370

2013-04-09 Thread Kevin M Randall
Ben Abrahamse wrote: This strikes me as similar to the old NACO rule of thumb, Don't add cross- reference for a variant of a variant. I.e.: Don't add a qualifier to a qualifier. It makes sense for a heading. It does not make sense to me, when you end up with a qualifier that is

Re: [RDA-L] Place names in 370

2013-04-09 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
Kevin, I think you raise some good points, certainly. I would be the first to admit my analogy (really, more of mnemomic device) is weak. Now, I didn't come up with this rule in DCMZ, so I'm not going to fall on my sword for it. But I do think it's worth considering that a heading (or

Re: [RDA-L] dimension of discs and end punctuations of 264 field

2013-04-09 Thread Kelley McGrath
Actually if you look at videocassettes under 3.5.1.4.3, it says to use mm. I missed this at first, too, but I guess you would use 127 mm. It would probably be helpful if there were a VHS example in RDA as that is the one that the average cataloger is most likely to encounter. Kelley   The

Re: [RDA-L] dimension of discs and end punctuations of 264 field

2013-04-09 Thread Greta de Groat
I've been using 13 mm, but it would be very helpful to have an example. Greta de Groat Stanford University Libraries On 4/9/2013 1:34 PM, Kelley McGrath wrote: Actually if you look at videocassettes under 3.5.1.4.3, it says to use mm. I missed this at first, too, but I guess you would use 127

[RDA-L] Date in the call nuber for microfiche

2013-04-09 Thread Joseph, Angelina
Mark: I need your help with classification of microfiche titles. We get law books recommended for libraries titles on microfiche. Should I put the date the microfiche is created or the original date of publication of the item? I think DtSt has to be s and Dates: should be single date for the

Re: [RDA-L] dimension of discs and end punctuations of 264 field

2013-04-09 Thread Lisa Hatt
Thanks for the replies. We don't have a subscription to the Toolkit and will not for the foreseeable future, so I'm having to wing it and learn by example as far as trying to know what might be right or wrong in an RDA record as far as copy-cataloging. (We don't do much original cataloging

Re: [RDA-L] Absence of Tool;ot

2013-04-09 Thread J. McRee Elrod
We don't have a subscription to the Toolkit ... Have you tried the MRIs? http://special-cataloguing.com/mris __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/ ___} |__

Re: [RDA-L] Date in the call nuber for microfiche

2013-04-09 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Angelina Joseph said: I think DtSt has to be s and Dates: should be single date for the filming year. 264 has the microfilming year, and 776 gets the date and other info for the original. So what should be the year I should have in the call number? Se use r, with date one the microfilm