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2013-05-31 Thread Joan Wang
Hi, All I hope that somebody would like to help me understand authorized access points for expressions. We can say that authorized access points for expressions are not separate access points. They are actually expression elements such as content type, date, and language, added to authorized

[RDA-L] Authorized access points for expressions

2013-05-31 Thread Joan Wang
(Forgot to put subject in the earlier email I sent. Sorry about that) Hi, All I hope that somebody would like to help me understand authorized access points for expressions. We can say that authorized access points for expressions are not separate access points. They are actually expression

[RDA-L] English Hebrew -- English.. a taste of things to come?

2013-05-31 Thread Adger Williams
n 79084797. Haggadah English has a see-reference from Haggadah English Hebrew. When this record hit our database, it turned all the entries for Haggadah English Hebrew into entries for Haggadah English. I then went through and added the extra entry for Haggadah Hebrew. (hm... that may

Re: [RDA-L] Authorized access points for expressions

2013-05-31 Thread Joan Wang
130 0#$aGone with the wind (Motion picture).$hSound recording. I think that for this, should use Performed music in $h? On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: (Forgot to put subject in the earlier email I sent. Sorry about that) Hi, All I hope that

Re: [RDA-L] English Hebrew -- English.. a taste of things to come?

2013-05-31 Thread Gary L Strawn
This very matter has been the subject of more than one e-mail to what I can only refer to as offenders. In our current wild-West everyone-does-what-they-want world I doubt that anything except eternal vigilance on all of our parts can prevent this kind of improper behavior from adversely

Re: [RDA-L] English Hebrew -- English.. a taste of things to come?

2013-05-31 Thread Mitchell, Michael
Next! ;) From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Gary L Strawn Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 11:10 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] English Hebrew -- English.. a taste of things to come?

Re: [RDA-L] English Hebrew -- English.. a taste of things to come?

2013-05-31 Thread Gene Fieg
Just looked at record: n 79084797 040 DLC ǂb eng ǂe rda ǂc DLC ǂd OCoLC ǂd OrU ǂd DLC ǂd ICrlF 130 0Haggadah. ǂl English 377 eng 430 0Haggadah. ǂl English Hebrew ǂw nnaa 4102 Jews. ǂk Liturgy and ritual. ǂt Hagadah. ǂl English Hebrew ǂw nnaa 430 0New American Haggadah 670 New American

Re: [RDA-L] English Hebrew -- English.. a taste of things to come?

2013-05-31 Thread Gary L Strawn
Well, what you need to end up with is indeed two 7XX fields for most such headings. (I'm going to set aside the matter of bilingual series such as … $t Works. $l English Latin.) One of the difficulties one faces involves the two languages named in the $l: is one of them the original?

Re: [RDA-L] English Hebrew -- English.. a taste of things to come?

2013-05-31 Thread Gene Fieg
And then we have the following already in the NAF: 010 n 84075772 040 InU ǂb eng ǂc DLC ǂd DLC ǂd UPB ǂd DLC 046 ǂk 1976 ǂl 1977 1000 Origen. ǂt Homilies on Jeremiah. ǂl French Greek 336 text ǂ2 rdacontent 4000 Origen. ǂt Homélies sur Jérémie 667 THIS 1XX FIELD CANNOT BE USED UNDER RDA

Re: [RDA-L] English Hebrew -- English.. a taste of things to come?

2013-05-31 Thread Jenifer K Marquardt
The series dilemma for parallel titles has turned into a PCC policy discussion. As it stands and as you are instructed in the series bridge training, you have to create TWO series records. One for each language expression. Even though neither SAR completely describes the work if you do that.

Re: [RDA-L] English Hebrew -- English.. a taste of things to come?

2013-05-31 Thread Kevin M Randall
Jenifer Marquardt wrote: The series dilemma for parallel titles has turned into a PCC policy discussion. As it stands and as you are instructed in the series bridge training, you have to create TWO series records. One for each language expression. Even though neither SAR completely

Re: [RDA-L] Authorized access points for expressions

2013-05-31 Thread Adam Schiff
Joan is correct that Performed music would be the term added for an expression of a score but this is not how the access point for the music from the film would be constructed. It would be the name of the composer followed by the name of the musical work. The music is a separate work from the

Re: [RDA-L] English Hebrew -- English.. a taste of things to come?

2013-05-31 Thread John Hostage
So, Gary, what is the proper behavior with these records in the authority file? -- John Hostage Authorities and Database Integrity Librarian // Harvard Library--Information and Technical Services // Langdell Hall 194 // Cambridge, MA 02138

Re: [RDA-L] English Hebrew -- English.. a taste of things to come?

2013-05-31 Thread Gary L Strawn
Since there's no one-for-one correspondence, I think the best thing is just to delete 'em. I'd be delighted if they were all deleted in a batch… Gary L. Strawn, Authorities Librarian, etc. Twitter: GaryLStrawn Northwestern University Library, 1970 Campus Drive, Evanston IL 60208-2300

Re: [RDA-L] English Hebrew -- English.. a taste of things to come?

2013-05-31 Thread Gene Fieg
Delete what? The authority record(s)? Examples, please On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Gary L Strawn mrsm...@northwestern.eduwrote: Since there's no one-for-one correspondence, I think the best thing is just to delete 'em. I'd be delighted if they were all deleted in a batch…* *** ** **

Re: [RDA-L] English Hebrew -- English.. a taste of things to come?

2013-05-31 Thread Adam L. Schiff
Each of these types of authority records for expressions with multiple languages needs to result in two or more new authority records, with the original record cancelled (it could be put in 040 $z of the new RDA records, but Coop Team personnel would have to do that, since we can't add 040 $z

Re: [RDA-L] English Hebrew -- English.. a taste of things to come?

2013-05-31 Thread Cristan, Ana Lupe
Hello All, In July of 2012 PSD issued guidelines described the changes made in Phase 1 and provided guidance for NACO handling of NARs that had the 667 added to it. This document is at: http://www.loc.gov/aba/rda/pdf/lcnaf_rdaphase.pdf See page 4, number 3 that states: AACR2 authority record

Re: [RDA-L] Streaming RDA (query from a ludite!!)

2013-05-31 Thread Boehr, Diane (NIH/NLM) [E]
Anne, NLM has created a number of streaming video records using RDA. We are not finding that they are any more difficult in RDA than they were in AACR2. For some samples you can search these NLMID numbers in either OCLC or NLM's