[RDA-L] Relationship designator for author of the book for a musical

2013-06-11 Thread Adam Schiff
Hi all, What are people using for the author of the book for a musical? The RDA designator librettist seems to be for the sung words in a dramatic musical work, rather than the spoken text. I guess perhaps the correct term would be author? Or would people just use librettist for both the

[RDA-L] Extent: Terms of common usage (RDA 3.4.1.5 c.)

2013-06-11 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
The standard rule in RDA 3.4.1.3 is to record the extent of a resource by using a term from the list of carrier types in 3.3.1.3, e.g. 1 videodisc. But according to RDA 3.4.1.5 c) it is also possible to use a term in common usage (e.g. 1 DVD) as an alternative to a term listed at 3.3.1.3, if

Re: [RDA-L] Extent: Terms of common usage (RDA 3.4.1.5 c.)

2013-06-11 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Addendum: I just noticed that the present rule in 3.4.1.5 c) is going to be moved to 3.4.1.3 according to this proposal: http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-LC-17-Sec-final.pdf But I think this doesn't change the content of the instruction, only the way it is presented in RDA. Heidrun On

Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designator for author of the book for a musical

2013-06-11 Thread Danskin, Alan
We have been having this discussion too. I agree that author would be appropriate for the creator(s) of the book. Alan Alan Danskin Metadata Standards Manager The British Library Boston Spa WETHERBY West Yorkshire LS23 7BQ www.bl.uk

[RDA-L] RDA relationship designators in NARs, again

2013-06-11 Thread Moore, Richard
Cross-posting to PCC and RDA_L lists, sorry. Following the recent discussion on this on the PCC List, I wanted to ask for clarity on a couple of points, before contemplating training our cataloguers to begin using these designators. Assuming for the moment the current list of designators

Re: [RDA-L] Extent: Terms of common usage (RDA 3.4.1.5 c.)

2013-06-11 Thread Janet Davis
Dear Heidrun, Here in Cambridge we have recommended that staff should prefer to give a term in common usage when doing original cataloguing. When dealing with a downloaded record, we have said that we can simply accept what comes - terms in common usage and terms selected from the carrier

Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designators for related expressions, works etc for a music score

2013-06-11 Thread Deborah Fritz
LC PCC PS for 1.7.1 addresses this, here: http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=lcpschp1 http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=lcpschp1target=lcps1-229#lcps 1-229 target=lcps1-229#lcps1-229 Under 2b) for bib records, it says: When subfield $i for relationship designator is

[RDA-L] Language of expression

2013-06-11 Thread Joan Wang
I have a question about MARC encoding of multiple languages in a single expression. RDA instructs us to record language of expression as a separate element, as part of an access point, or as both. RDA 6.11.1.4 says recording each of the languages if a single expression of a work involves more than

Re: [RDA-L] Language of expression

2013-06-11 Thread Joan Wang
I recall my message. I sent it to a wrong email address. Sorry about that. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Joan Wang jw...@illinoisheartland.orgwrote: I have a question about MARC encoding of multiple languages in a single expression. RDA instructs us to record language of expression as a

Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designator for author of the book for a musical

2013-06-11 Thread Rita Lifton
I'm forwarding this reply on behalf of our Music Archivist, Dr. Eliott Kahn: According to the Dramatists Guild, the correct term would be, bookwriter. Rita Lifton Library of The Jewish Theological Seminary New York, NY -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource

Re: [RDA-L] RDA relationship designators in NARs, again

2013-06-11 Thread Moore, Richard
Sorry, my third example should read: 3. Body A splits to form Body B and Body C 110 Body A 510 product of a split: Body B 510 product of a split: Body C 110 Body B 510 predecessor: Body A 110 Body C 510 predecessor: Body A From: Moore, Richard Sent: 11 June 2013

Re: [RDA-L] Title proper choice (multiple parallel titles)

2013-06-11 Thread Adam Schiff
I am sure that both John Attig and Kathy Glennan are reading these emails, as are the good folks at LC. Hopefully they agree that the instruction is incomplete as currently written. Adam -Original Message- From: Deborah Fritz Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 7:34 AM To:

Re: [RDA-L] Justification of Access Points

2013-06-11 Thread Blue, Kathryn J
Justifying access points was based on the principle that the description of a resource should be complete and should be able to stand on its own regardless of how it might be indexed in some catalog or database. The description could be used in other contexts than a library catalog, such as a

[RDA-L] RDA implementation

2013-06-11 Thread Mary Mastraccio
If you have plans to attend the upcoming ALA Annual Meeting in Chicago, we hope you'll plan to attend a program of interest to technical services staff. MARCIVE is hosting an ALA-ERT program: RDA Implementation: What, Why, and How in One Hour. It is Saturday, June 29 at 10:30am-11:30m at the

[RDA-L] ALCTS Call for 2014 Proposals

2013-06-11 Thread Susan Wynne
Forwarding on behalf of the ALCTS Program Committee. Please excuse cross-posting. Susan C. Wynne Cataloging Metadata Librarian Georgia State University 100 Decatur Street SE Atlanta, GA 30303 404-413-2729 The ALCTS Program Committee invites program and pre-conference

Re: [RDA-L] Extent: Terms of common usage (RDA 3.4.1.5 c.)

2013-06-11 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Heidrun asked: So I wonder: What is the general practice now? Do you use things like audiodisc and videodisc for the extent, or rather a straightforward CD and DVD? In some cases, the RDA carrier term is the only option, e.g., volume. In others, our clients find these terms too general,

[RDA-L] RE : [RDA-L] Relationship designator for author of the book for a musical

2013-06-11 Thread Paradis Daniel
The current definitions of librettist and lyricist in Appendix are not quite clear and have therefore been revised as follows in 6JSC/ALA/13/Sec final (http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-ALA-13-Sec-final.pdf) (to be integrated in the Toolkit in the July update): librettist An author of the

Re: [RDA-L] RE : [RDA-L] Relationship designator for author of the book for a musical

2013-06-11 Thread Adam L. Schiff
Merci Daniel! I did not catch that those definitions had been changed. Adam ^^ Adam L. Schiff Principal Cataloger University of Washington Libraries Box 352900 Seattle, WA 98195-2900 (206) 543-8409 (206) 685-8782 fax asch...@u.washington.edu