As anyone who has read David Weinberger's Everything is miscellaneous knows, 
the physical arrangement of grocery and department stores, while perhaps not 
standardized in quite the same way a catalog is, is nonetheless the result of 
extensive empirical testing.  While I don't believe RDA has quite that much 
laboratory testing behind it (and, to be realistic, there is a huge difference 
in the amount of money that is available to libraries and to places like 
Staples to figure these things out), with respect to the Rule of Three, I think 
the JSC got it right.

The Rule of Three is certainly too restrictive; moreover it reflects a 
technological context (the card catalog) that has largely been rendered 
obsolete by bibliographic databases.  But there has to be wiggle room: a 
standard that demands "access points for ALL creators and contributors" leads 
to a practice that is theoretically satisfying but not always feasible.  We 
have materials with over 100 named contributors, and I'm sure other science and 
technology-focused collections have encountered the same.  If we were forced by 
RDA (or any other standard) to transcribe and provide authority-controlled 
headings for every contributor to every work in our catalog, our cataloging 
would slow us down to a crawl, which results in an even greater disservice to 
our users because the materials they need are sitting the back room (or in the 
ERM), not in the stacks or discoverable in the OPAC.  At some point it really 
does make more sense to say, "[and others]", and I think we probably need to 
remain somewhat vague about what that point is because not every library has 
the same users, or the same needs.  

One of the things I think is important about RDA is that it is nudging the 
profession to look at "cataloging rules" differently.  I am tempted to say that 
the AACR2 approach was "all that is not permitted is forbidden", while the RDA 
approach is "all that is not forbidden is permitted"; though I readily concede 
this is a bit of an oversimplification.  In any case, to return to the question 
tracing authors and other contributors, any fixed cutoff number is going to be 
justifiably labeled "arbitrary", and will be subject to the slings and arrows 
of those who think it's too high, or those who thinks it's too low.  
Identifying an absolute minimum, then encouraging catalogers to catalog wisely, 
and identifying best practices for specific types of libraries and collections 
strikes me as more flexible and realistic.


Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137


-----Original Message-----
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Adam L. Schiff
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 4:36 PM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Plans for Existing Bib Records?

On Fri, 20 May 2011, James Weinheimer wrote:

> I guess we have probably exhausted our respective points. I will only discuss 
> one here:
>
> Again, RDA's standard was made arbitrarily--unless somebody out there can 
> point to some kind of research done that showed our patrons wanted only a 
> single author, plus a translator, plus an illustrator only of childrens' 
> books, although I have never heard anybody suggest this--and then dropped it 
> all into the lap of the cataloger. Just a couple of years ago--even right 
> now, that is considered to be *not good enough* and can only be considered a 
> huge step backward from what it has been.
>
> What will you do when massive numbers of records come in--all following the 
> RDA standard--that only have a single author? Or do you really think this 
> won't happen because catalogers are too "professional" to allow standards to 
> fall? Why not fault the standard itself? Why even allow it to happen and then 
> have to clean up afterwards?

I go back to John Myers comment earlier.  We ALREADY have had a standard 
for 30+ years that says that all our users can look under is the first 
author/editor/illustrator/producer etc. when there are more than three 
entities responsible doing the same function.  I have always considered 
that to be a massive disservice to users and a violation of longstanding 
cherished cataloging principles.  Have patrons only wanted the first of 
four authors or editors in our current cataloging environment?  Have 
faculty understood why they were left off of statements of responsibility 
and not provided with an access point simply because they came last in 
alphabetical order and that was the order decided on by them or the 
publisher of their book?  I don't recall a lot of criticism of AACR2 for 
the decision to only give one name and one access point in this situation 
(yes, catalogers have always had workarounds, but we never bothered to 
change the standard in 30 years).  Given what we've already been providing 
for large numbers of multi-creator resources, I really don't see RDA as 
being that different.  Any number other than providing access points for 
ALL creators and contributors is really an arbitrary one that doesn't 
serve users very well and doesn't fulfill the objectives of the catalog 
that we've cherished for over a 100 years.

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