Libraries have adhered to LC rule interpretations and OCLC standards
as de facto standards and moving image catalogers in
libraries had to comply even though the rules didn't meet our needs.
If the text-based model is imposed by LC and/or OCLC on
libraries, then i fear that the moving image
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With considerable trepidation, I'm going to venture into this discussion
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Creider's asks, One question I have for Martha is why a change in actors
results in a different work? I would argue that moving images are
essentially visual works, not textual ones; in order to change a textual
work into a visual work, adaptation is inherently necessary. The situation
is
I would add that the case of motion pictures is
difficult, again because of the many different
contributions involved. I can't imagine a case
where the ONLY change would be a change of
actors. All the contributions and contributors
to a remake are different, which is why it seems
appropriate to
Martha,
You answered all of my questions except the one at the beginning, and I
should have addressed that to Greta de Groat. You did not make the
statement about actors being a characteristic of the work rather than the
expression. I apologize for the confusion, although I would still like
Martha's explanation of her argument for a FRBR model of motion pictures
makes sense to me.
This discussion highlights a few things for me:
1) Even though FRBR with it's four Group 1 entities is already
considered too complicated by some people (who think we only need three,
or two), it's
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Martha,
You answered all of my questions except the one at the beginning, and I
should have addressed that to Greta de Groat. You did not make the
statement about actors being a characteristic of the work rather than the
expression. I apologize
Jonathan:
I think these are all issues, and Karen's response to John reflected
some of my approach to these as well. But let me try and be clear about
where I think we need to go.
Jonathan Rochkind wrote:
Martha's explanation of her argument for a FRBR model of motion pictures
makes sense to
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Creider's asks, One question I have for Martha is why a change in
actors results in a different work? I would argue that moving images
are essentially visual works, not textual ones
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Creider's asks, One question I have for Martha is why a change in
actors results in a different work
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Sorry about that, Larry; I do agree with Greta that actors (and editors,
directors, screenwriters, costume designers, composers of music) all belong
at the work level, not the expression level, for moving image works. Moving
image works
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Sorry about that, Larry; I do agree with Greta that actors (and editors,
directors
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