Re: [RDA-L] First issue vs. latest issue

2012-10-27 Thread James Weinheimer
This is a provocative discussion. I agree with what you say, but I would like to make the following observation On 26/10/2012 22:30, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote: snip James Weinheimer wrote: It occurs to me that we have the concept of *the* title of an item but as we see here, there are

Re: [RDA-L] First issue vs. latest issue

2012-10-27 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Jim, actually, when writing my last mail I was asking myself whether I should include a sentence on the question of which is the most prominent position. Because it's true that the front cover for an ordinary person (not hindered by a librarian's education) may be as important or even more

Re: [RDA-L] First issue vs. latest issue

2012-10-26 Thread James Weinheimer
On 25/10/2012 15:11, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote: snip Let's take the following example: A becomes B (major change) B becomes C (minor change) C becomes D (minor change) D becomes E (major change) This leads to the following three entities: Entity 1 (A) Entity 2 (B, C and D) Entity 3

Re: [RDA-L] First issue vs. latest issue

2012-10-26 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
John Hostage wrote: I think basing the description on the latest issue makes sense, especially in the context of a centralized database. This is essentially what we do already for integrating resources (RDA 2.1.2.4). Germany always seems to be years ahead of us technologically. Maybe they

Re: [RDA-L] First issue vs. latest issue

2012-10-26 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
James Weinheimer wrote: These sorts of practices always interest me and I try to come up with ideas that bring them together. One way of looking at this would be that a record for a serial is the manifestation, and that this single manifestation has variant titles (not necessarily earlier

Re: [RDA-L] First issue vs. latest issue

2012-10-25 Thread James Weinheimer
On 25/10/2012 08:20, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote: snip I'd like your thoughts on a problem which the German library community has to face when making the move to RDA: It's the question of whether the description of a serial should be based on the first or the latest issue (in cases of minor

Re: [RDA-L] First issue vs. latest issue

2012-10-25 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
James Weinheimer wrote: A question: When a serial has title changes A to B to C to D (D is the latest title) and a library has only A and B, what does a library do now? Firstly, bear in mind that of course we also have split entries, so if there is a major change, a new record will be

Re: [RDA-L] First issue vs. latest issue

2012-10-25 Thread James Weinheimer
On 25/10/2012 10:58, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote: snip James Weinheimer wrote: A question: When a serial has title changes A to B to C to D (D is the latest title) and a library has only A and B, what does a library do now? Firstly, bear in mind that of course we also have split entries, so

Re: [RDA-L] First issue vs. latest issue

2012-10-25 Thread Mary Mastraccio
Heidrun Wiesenmüller asked regarding serial records: What are your feelings about first vs. latest issue - which advantages and disadvantages do you see? If you were free to choose, i.e. if there was no existing data to consider, and if we assume (for the sake of the argument) that both

Re: [RDA-L] First issue vs. latest issue

2012-10-25 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
James Weinheimer wrote: So it is more of a difference in what is considered a minor change. No, actually we've got exactly the same rules for what is considered a major change and what is seen as a minor change. I believe there used to be some differences, but since 2007 we've been using

Re: [RDA-L] First issue vs. latest issue

2012-10-25 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Mary L. Mastraccio wrote: Although I understand the logic of first issue, I agree with Germany's logic that the latest issue is the current valid information so should be the basis of cataloging. Current records when cataloged can become out of date over time but the record [assuming it is

Re: [RDA-L] First issue vs. latest issue

2012-10-25 Thread Ed Jones
Of Heidrun Wiesenmüller Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:43 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] First issue vs. latest issue Mary L. Mastraccio wrote: Although I understand the logic of first issue, I agree with Germany's logic that the latest issue is the current valid

Re: [RDA-L] First issue vs. latest issue

2012-10-25 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Heidrun said: ... whether the description of a serial should be based on the first or the latest issue (in cases of minor variations, which do not call for a new entry altogether). The difficulty with latest issue, is that the latest issue today, this week, this month, or this year is not the

Re: [RDA-L] First issue vs. latest issue

2012-10-25 Thread John Hostage
I think basing the description on the latest issue makes sense, especially in the context of a centralized database. This is essentially what we do already for integrating resources (RDA 2.1.2.4). Germany always seems to be years ahead of us technologically. Maybe they can propose a revision

Re: [RDA-L] First issue vs. latest issue

2012-10-25 Thread Julian Everett Allgood
John, Ed and All : Hi -- Yes, I must agree that I read Heidrun's description of the Zeitschriftendatenbank (serials union catalogue, ZDB) with a certain amount of envy. I was especially struck by the practical appeal of the following feature: snip Automatic processes copy the relevant records