Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors

2013-06-26 Thread Don Charuk
We are trying to come to grips with this issue as staff adjust to some of the peculiarities of RDA. I would agree that a creator of an illustrated book sans text should be regarded as the creator and given the designator artist. Yet, if you read LC-PCC PS for rule 18.5.1.3 it suggests that

Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors

2013-06-26 Thread Trina Pundurs
I can see how one would arrive at that reading; I just never took it to mean that LC would never recognize an artist as a creator for children's materials. The more sensible reading, I think--perhaps a bit of a stretch given the current wording of the PS--is that IF there are illustrations in the

Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors

2012-11-26 Thread Jack Wu
Then, in MARC, it can sometimes be using $e illustrator, but at other times $e artist? Or would one be using both terms? It's somewhat confusing to me. Jack Wu Franciscan University of Steubenville j...@franciscan.edu JSC Secretary jscsecret...@rdatoolkit.org 11/23/2012 8:14 AM Jenny, The

Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors

2012-11-26 Thread Jenny Wright
: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors Then, in MARC, it can sometimes be using $e illustrator, but at other times $e artist? Or would one be using both terms? It's somewhat confusing to me. Jack Wu Franciscan University of Steubenville j...@franciscan.edu JSC Secretary

Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors

2012-11-26 Thread Jack Wu
-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors Then, in MARC, it can sometimes be using $e illustrator, but at other times $e artist? Or would one be using both terms? It's somewhat confusing to me. Jack Wu Franciscan University of Steubenville j...@franciscan.edu

Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors

2012-11-26 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
: November 26, 2012 11:08 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors And the searcher, in order to search successfully, would have to know this distinction in our use of a different qualifier for the same person under different circumstances

Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors

2012-11-26 Thread Laurence S. Creider
Wu Sent: November 26, 2012 11:08 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors And the searcher, in order to search successfully, would have to know this distinction in our use of a different qualifier for the same person under different

Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors

2012-11-26 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
. Creider Sent: November 26, 2012 11:27 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors And all this helps the public how? -- Laurence S. Creider Interim Head Archives and Special Collections Dept. University Library New Mexico State

Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors

2012-11-26 Thread Mike Tribby
, November 26, 2012 10:35 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors As an option for navigating the relationships people have had to creative works, there is the possibility of very user-friendly approaches, as in this IMDB example

Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors

2012-11-26 Thread Mike Tribby
- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Kevin M Randall Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 11:33 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors I think the point

Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors

2012-11-26 Thread Kevin M Randall
Mike Tribby wrote: Ox Eckhardt hit .371 in 1932 for the Mission Reds to win the Pacific Coast League batting title. But where, if anywhere, do you draw the line? My need to know about and do research on oldtime minor league baseball doesn't measure up to the frequent examples of OPAC users

Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors

2012-11-26 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
: November 26, 2012 1:21 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors Mike Tribby wrote: Ox Eckhardt hit .371 in 1932 for the Mission Reds to win the Pacific Coast League batting title. But where, if anywhere, do you draw the line

Re: [RDA-L] Illustrators as creators, not contributors

2012-11-26 Thread Mike Tribby
To make a parallel between Clint Eastwood and Ox Eckhardt, your desire to find out that Ox Eckhardt hit .371 in 1932 for the Mission Reds to win the Pacific Coast League batting title would be akin to finding out that Clint Eastwood took x number of days to direct the film UNFORGIVEN, or worked