Re: [RDA-L] Publication/distribution/manufacturer statement

2013-12-06 Thread Jack Wu
When all elements are lacking, and there's no RDA provision, I suppose you can for the time being at least, go back to AACR: Just use: S.L. : s.n., n.d. Until no mixed record or coding is allowed, or a 264 5 should come along. Jack Jack Wu Franciscan University of Steubenville Brenndorfer,

Re: [RDA-L] Publication/distribution/manufacturer statement

2013-12-06 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
Public Library From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Jack Wu Sent: December-06-13 11:07 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Publication/distribution/manufacturer statement When all elements

Re: [RDA-L] Publication/distribution/manufacturer statement

2013-12-06 Thread Myers, John
NO, NO, NO!!! (Yes, the vehemence is intentional and warranted at the gross contravention of RDA's stipulations in this matter.) RDA explicitly eliminates the use of AACR2's Latin abbreviations of [S.l. : s.n.]. The use of [n.d.] from AACR1 was eliminated in AACR2. There is provision in RDA to

Re: [RDA-L] Publication/distribution/manufacturer statement

2013-12-06 Thread Jack Wu
Forgot, that WAS the good old days. Jack Myers, John mye...@union.edu 12/6/2013 11:31 AM NO, NO, NO!!! (Yes, the vehemence is intentional and warranted at the gross contravention of RDA's stipulations in this matter.) RDA explicitly eliminates the use of AACR2's Latin abbreviations of [S.l.

Re: [RDA-L] Publication/distribution/manufacturer statement

2013-12-06 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Jack Wu said: you can for the time being at least, go back to AACR: Just use: S.L. : s.n., n.d. AACR2 did no have n.d.. One was supposed to guess, even [19--?]. RDA provides [Place of publication not identified] etc. Our cataloguers are instructed to never use those long uninformative

Re: [RDA-L] Publication/distribution/manufacturer statement

2013-12-06 Thread Jack Wu
Of course Mac and others are right, there's no n.d. in AACR2, and to guess a place and a date is better than no information and Not Identified. Still I wonder, if I know just 1 place and 1 date, as with much legacy data, whether they are of publication, or distribution, or just copyright will