Re: [RDA-L] 6.2.2.10 and 6.27.1.9

2013-12-17 Thread James Weinheimer
On 16/12/2013 21.09, Kevin M Randall wrote: snip Adam Schiff wrote: LC's policy, however, implies that the compiled work does not become known by its title except through the passage of time (e.g. Whitman's Leaves of Grass), and that for newly published compiled works, a conventional collective

Re: [RDA-L] 6.2.2.10 and 6.27.1.9

2013-12-17 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
James, All of these careful arrangements *completely disintegrated* when they were placed into the computer catalog. Since computers are rather mindless, the uniform title Works is now placed alphabetically under the author's name (W) and as a consequence, people are supposed to *actively

Re: [RDA-L] 6.2.2.10 and 6.27.1.9

2013-12-17 Thread James Weinheimer
On 17/12/2013 14.07, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wrote: snip But, is it possible to make collective uniform titles useful and functional for today's information tools? I believe they could and that people would appreciate it, but that would take complete reconsideration from the user's point of

[RDA-L] Revised JSC documents posted

2013-12-17 Thread JSC Secretary
The following documents have been posted on the JSC website ( http://www.rda-jsc.org/workingnew.html): -- 6JSC/ALA/23/rev [Revision proposal for RDA instructions on treaties] -- 6JSC/RDA/Editor's guide/rev/2 and two appendices Regards, Judy Kuhagen Secretary, JSC To unsubscribe from RDA-L

Re: [RDA-L] 6.2.2.10 and 6.27.1.9

2013-12-17 Thread Gary Hough
While there is a theoretical sense in which an author can write only one “complete works,” in actual practice there are decisions to be made by a compiler about what “complete” means. Does one include juvenilia, drafts, alternate versions, and other unpublished materials? Then there are

Re: [RDA-L] 6.2.2.10 and 6.27.1.9

2013-12-17 Thread Gary L Strawn
There's also the possibility that the complete works can be published while the author is still alive; so they're complete (whatever that might mean) as of the time of publication, but there may be more in the future. Gary L. Strawn, Authorities Librarian, etc. Twitter: GaryLStrawn

Re: [RDA-L] 6.2.2.10 and 6.27.1.9

2013-12-17 Thread Robert Maxwell
That's why RDA refers to such a compilation as one that purports to be the complete works of an author (including cases where such a compilation is published before the author's death). The cataloger is not expected to compare what is in hand against some reference work to make sure it is in

[RDA-L] Identifying a person of religious vocation

2013-12-17 Thread Stewart, Richard
Hello all, I'd appreciate any thoughts about whether I'm on the right track in dealing with this name. I'm doing original cataloging of Ciasta i ciasteczka Siostry Marii (Sister Maria's cakes and cookies). The author's name appears as Siostry Marii (genitive case) on the title page and Siostra

Re: [RDA-L] Identifying a person of religious vocation

2013-12-17 Thread Jennifer Gullickson
Hi Richard, I don't know how they do it in other countries, but here in the U.S., the person takes on a saint's name as their FIRST name. Whether the entire name is taken is dependent on how well known the saint is or if their order has others in the same monastery or priory who have taken

Re: [RDA-L] Collective cities

2013-12-17 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Mac, Yes, I was only talking about collective titles as a subtype of the former uniform titles. It seems RDA calls this a conventional collective title. The glossary gives as the definition: A title used as the preferred title for a compilation containing two or more works by one person,

Re: [RDA-L] Collective cities

2013-12-17 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Heidrun quoted RDA: It seems RDA calls this a conventional collective title. The glossary gives as the definition: A title used as the preferred title for a compilation containing two or more works by one person, family, or corporate body, or two or more parts of a work (e.g., Works, Poems,

Re: [RDA-L] 6.2.2.10 and 6.27.1.9

2013-12-17 Thread Wilson, Pete
Thanks for these and your later set of examples, Adam. Should we be doing something similar for works that are selections from a single larger work, rather than collective works? Certainly there is no reason to think that one book of selections from, say, Paradise Lost would have the same

Re: [RDA-L] Collective cities

2013-12-17 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
  -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod Sent: December-17-13 4:46 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Collective cities Heidrun quoted RDA:

Re: [RDA-L] Identifying a person of religious vocation

2013-12-17 Thread Moore, Richard
Richard and Charles You could have Goretti, Maria, $c Siostra as an authorised access point (and therefore also as a variant access point, as here), following the optional addition of an Other term of rank, honour or office, at 9.19.1.6. Regards Richard _